Predict the Mavs' record for the 2018-2019 season - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:23 PM

Playoff teams that have gotten worse
Spurs
Thunder (well, maybe waiving Melo is addition by subtraction, but they aren't better)
Trailblazers (maybe-- could see them implode if they don't do anything. Mediocrity can damage a lockerroom)
Pelicans - they haven't gotten better and Davis is never healthy

Playoff teams that have gotten better
None

Non-playoff teams that have gotten better
Mavs
Lakers
Suns

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 08:25 PM

Pelicans are one longer Davis injury away from a Top-5 lottery pick...and he is allready the NBA alltime leader in trips to the lockerroom

3_Ball · 07-01-2018, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Playoff teams that have gotten worse
Spurs
Thunder (well, maybe waiving Melo is addition by subtraction, but they aren't better)
Trailblazers (maybe-- could see them implode if they don't do anything. Mediocrity can damage a lockerroom)
Pelicans - they haven't gotten better and Davis is never healthy

Playoff teams that have gotten better
None

Non-playoff teams that have gotten better
Mavs
Lakers
Suns

I can concur with the Pelicans. You can't really bet on a star player being injured, though.

If you're OKC, could this offseason have gone any better? You retain PG13 and Jerami Grant. Effin A! If I'm them. Plus, year 2 for PG & Russ to gel and the team to come together. I don't see how they got worse.

Spurs. Yes & No. They made the playoffs last year with Kawhi playing an ineffective 9 games for them. You could talk me into the idea of them regressing, though.

HOU looks to be worse. They lost Ariza & could lose Capela. Still don't see the Mavs passing the Rockets, unfortunately.

Lakers are pretty much penciled in for the playoffs this year. No telling who else is joining LaBron in LA, but you can bet more additions are coming.

DEN didn't get any worse. Locked up Jokic, resigned Barton. MPJ is a non-factor, but I can't see them winning less games this year without injury playing a role.

Mavs obviously have a chance. You're absolutely right we got better, but to go from 24 wins to 47 wins, 23 wins better? I don't know about that.

Melonhead · 07-01-2018, 09:20 PM

Thunder will be the same give or take a couple games. If they don’t stretch Melo it could take a downturn though.

Nugs are the same.

Trailblazers hit their regular season peak last year. If they don’t add something I could see them get worse.

Spurs are toast. They will miss the playoffs this season.

Houston will be the same. Don’t expect same number of wins but top 2/3 seed.

Got the Mavs at 42 wins. Hope it’s enough.

saclare · 07-02-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

It's an interesting point, but do you honestly believe we didn't leave some wins on the table intentionally? Also, consider the impact of DSJ year 1 vs year 2. Year 2-3 is when we find out who he is going to be.

This, missing from a bunch of posts is our guy DSJ.

However, it is quite the jump given how hard the Western Conference is going to be this year. A lot of teams got better, including us. However, a lot of teams stayed the same or have questions going into the season.

Rockets - still going to be at the top with...
Warriors - team to beat
Blazers - stayed the same, could even be in for regression
Thunder - ^^^
Jazz - they will continue to improve with their young nucleus
Pelicans - hard one, I think they still end up higher up in standings
Spurs - Kawhi gone and they miss playoffs
Timberwolves - not a fan of their roster set-up

Nuggets - just missed, they should improve or stay same (46 wins)
Clippers - lol Rivers
Lakers - don't think they are done and will make the playoffs
Kings - lol Vlade
Grizzlies - health dependent but still not enough
Suns - improved but still not enough

Overall, if we are being realistic, I can see an improvement to 36-38 wins, but I'm not sure if playoff are realistic. I have:

Warriors
Rockets
Jazz
Lakers
Blazers
Thunder
Pelicans
Nuggets

I think that 8th seed will come down to Nuggets and Timberwolves, with the Mavs knocking on the door. Who knows, it could come together beautifully, and we can make some noise with potential ceiling of the 6th seed. But I find it hard to say we did enough to return to the playoffs with confidence.

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2018, 10:19 AM

Free agency signings haven't even started, but people are already making predictions.

Vote now-- or vote when we actually have our entire roster. Poll closes in 45 days

Bryan_Wilson · 07-02-2018, 10:22 AM

Oh God, I want to vote now, cuz... I mean I'm bored and I need to do something. But I know I should wait.

sefant77 · 07-02-2018, 10:23 AM

With signing Seth or a similar player 40-44 and around the #8 spot.

Mavs in the east probably 46+ and a clear playoff team

Bryan_Wilson · 07-02-2018, 10:25 AM

I think we finish with 38-39 wins. Just barely missing the 40win mark I wanted to choose.

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2018, 10:29 AM

I see 30-34 wins...I like the moves we've made but we are still one of the worst teams I. The West. Suns IMO, are a team full of young talent.

Melonhead · 07-02-2018, 10:45 AM

Only differences I see:

Spurs drop out.
Lakers go in.

Then itll be a 5 team battle for 7-8 seed:
Denver
Wolves
Mavs
Spurs
Grizz

sefant77 · 07-02-2018, 10:58 AM

I dont see the Grizz moving up. Conley coming back but he is 32. Parsons is still toast and their rookie is raw. They also may lose Evans.

NeedlesKane · 07-02-2018, 11:11 AM

Can we fill out the rest of our roster and see what the rest of the league does before having a poll? I feel like it's too soon. We're a far more exciting team already and definitely going to improve. However, it's too early to gauge it.

SMC0007 · 07-02-2018, 11:25 AM

Gaw
Lakers
Houston (with capela)
Jazz
Thunder

The rest is a toss up.

I think the twolves and pelecanos might claim the next 2 spots.

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Can we fill out the rest of our roster and see what the rest of the league does before having a poll? I feel like it's too soon. We're a far more exciting team already and definitely going to improve. However, it's too early to gauge it.

That's why I commented that it was probably premature and left the poll open for 45 days

I created the thread because this topic was dominating other threads

NeedlesKane · 07-02-2018, 11:32 AM

I just read the first post and the poll. Definitely premature.

tap2390 · 07-02-2018, 12:15 PM

I reserve the right to amend these up until starting day haha:

WEST
1) Golden State (62-20)
2) Houston (56-26)
3) OKC (50-32)
4) LA Lakers (49-31)
5) New Orleans (46-36)
6) Utah (46-36)
7) Minnesota (44-38)
8) Dallas (44-38)

EAST
1) Boston (60-22)
2) Philly (58-30)
3) Toronto (52-30)
4) Milwaukee (48-34)
5) Indiana (47-35)
6) Washington (45-37)
7) Miami (43-39)
8) Detroit (42-40)

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I reserve the right to amend these up until starting day haha:

WEST
1) Golden State (62-20)
2) Houston (57-25)
3) OKC (50-32)
4) LA Lakers (49-31)
5) New Orleans (46-36)
6) Utah (46-36)
7) Minnesota (44-38)
8) Dallas (44-38)

EAST
1) Boston (60-22)
2) Philly (58-30)
3) Toronto (52-30)
4) Milwaukee (48-34)
5) Indiana (47-35)
6) Washington (45-37)
7) Miami (43-39)
8) Detroit (42-40)

I'd probably put us 9th or 10th, but I think that that's accurate. If Doncic is as promised, Smith takes the huge step forward that we know he can, Jordan clicks, and Barnes is solid, I could see us making a push for the 5th or 6th seed

If we take some time gelling or we just dont have the shooting to keep the offense crisp, then I could see 8-10th

If we have a major injury or chemistry issues (say, with Jordan), then I could see us hitting the lottery hard. Maybe even finishing top-5 and keeping the pick.

Most likely scenario I see is just missing the playoffs or barely squeaking in (8-10)

3_Ball · 07-02-2018, 01:22 PM

I think Vegas would set our Over/Under for wins right now at 37.5

AO41 · 07-02-2018, 01:23 PM

The Mavs go over 50 wins and finish 51-31 and 5th in the West.

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2018, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

The Mavs go over 50 wins and finish 51-31 and 5th in the West.

Bold! I like it.

AO41 · 07-02-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Bold! I like it.

I was just thinking why cant we be this coming season's Celtics. They did a lot of their damage without their big name players and we now have a similar make up.

Good 2nd year player DSJ (Brown)
Good rookie who can do big things Doncic (Tatum)
Good veteran Barnes (Hortford)
Better center...good for our system DJ
3-D guy who hopefully sticks to that Wes (Smart)

with Dirk and a bunch of other veteran/ decent players.

texasbball · 07-02-2018, 02:06 PM

I made this observation elsewhere: the whole continent of Europe should be a little nervous. Their best player, in their best league, regular season and post season MVP, now plays for the Mavs. Their. Best. Player. What if he's not NBA Top 50? Worse yet, what if he plays like a rookie? I don't care his age, Europe deemed him their best. Good luck kid. A continent is watching. --- With that said, I think he turns in a great season. Rookie of the year season. Mavs squeeze into the playoffs somewhere.

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Only differences I see:

Spurs drop out.
Lakers go in.

Then itll be a 5 team battle for 7-8 seed:
Denver
Wolves
Mavs
Spurs
Grizz

Spurs didn't have Kwahi Leonard and still made the post season.

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AO41

I was just thinking why cant we be this coming season's Celtics. They did a lot of their damage without their big name players and we now have a similar make up.

Good 2nd year player DSJ (Brown)
Good rookie who can do big things Doncic (Tatum)
Good veteran Barnes (Hortford)
Better center...good for our system DJ
3-D guy who hopefully sticks to that Wes (Smart)

with Dirk and a bunch of other veteran/ decent players.

So who's Kyrie Irving and when do we get to move out Ewst and beat up on everyone lol?

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Spurs didn't have Kwahi Leonard and still made the post season.

Yeah the only player that got PT that left is Joffrey Lauvergne and I see Lonnie Walker tearing it up Dwyane Wade style

turin · 07-02-2018, 04:10 PM

42-40

NeedlesKane · 07-02-2018, 11:01 PM

Imagine when the 8th place Mavericks upset the 1st place Warriors!

Mavs#1Fan · 07-02-2018, 11:13 PM

40 wins, 10th place in the West

sefant77 · 07-02-2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Yeah the only player that got PT that left is Joffrey Lauvergne and I see Lonnie Walker tearing it up Dwyane Wade style

SL debut with 3-16 from the field

The problem with the Spurs is going to be the age. Paul Gasol is 38 next week, his legs are going to finally fly away like they did with Dirk. Aldridge will be 33 in two weeks, he will be declining too. Danny Green 31...Manu didnt decide if he plays or not...

I can see the Spurs struggling with a 0.500 record like us. Lakers are going to play the long game with Kawhi, with Cousins joining the Warriors etc they arent in a hurry to compete this year

Melonhead · 07-03-2018, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Spurs didn't have Kwahi Leonard and still made the post season.

As an 8 seed, as the oldest team in the league, and just
Got a year older.

3_Ball · 07-03-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

As an 8 seed, as the oldest team in the league, and just
Got a year older.

Yeah, and I'm not sure they weren't propped up by a few tanking teams also. They went 19-3 vs the Suns, Kings, Hawks, Mavs, Grizz, Magic & Bulls last season. I'm not sure they have the firepower to deal with those teams when they're not trying to tank. The Mavs, Grizzlies and Suns, for example.

Dtownsfinest · 07-03-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

As an 8 seed, as the oldest team in the league, and just
Got a year older.

They were the 7th seed and they were 2 wins away from being the 3rd seed. And they are the oldest team NOW. They would also get players for Kwahi Leonard or he's gonna play. As long as Popovich is there......I have a hard time seeing them suck.

Dtownsfinest · 07-03-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Yeah the only player that got PT that left is Joffrey Lauvergne and I see Lonnie Walker tearing it up Dwyane Wade style

Yeah I hated they got Lonnie Walker.....he coudln't have went to a better team.

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Originally Posted by 3_Ball

Yeah, and I'm not sure they weren't propped up by a few tanking teams also. They went 19-3 vs the Suns, Kings, Hawks, Mavs, Grizz, Magic & Bulls last season. I'm not sure they have the firepower to deal with those teams when they're not trying to tank. The Mavs, Grizzlies and Suns, for example.

If Houston didn't have Harden all year they would've missed the playoffs.......if any team other than the Warriors lost their best player like the Spurs did?They surely wouldn't be fighting for the 3rd seed. That's not to say that Spurs are a legit threat but they are a contender.

EricaLubarsky · 07-18-2018, 05:36 PM

More I think about it, the more I lean toward .350-.400 and finish 11th or 12th in the West.

We're going to be a lot better than last year, but man, the West is nuts.

MFFL · 07-18-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

More I think about it, the more I lean toward .350-.400 and finish 11th or 12th in the West.

We're going to be a lot better than last year, but man, the West is nuts.

Yeah. I thought the Spurs would take a step back but they are still better than us. And the Lakers, well Lebron dragged the Cavs to the Finals. So I expect they are better than us too.

Maybe we'll get luck and be at the extreme end of the lottery and get the 1st pick. Wouldn't THAT be something

Budapest Maverick · 07-26-2018, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AO41

The Mavs go over 50 wins and finish 51-31 and 5th in the West.

I'm with you, I'm not really a positive fan usually, but we basically added two All-Star level players, and yes, that's right, I said two.

BigDog63 · 07-26-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I reserve the right to amend these up until starting day haha:

WEST
1) Golden State (62-20)
2) Houston (56-26)
3) OKC (50-32)
4) LA Lakers (49-31)
5) New Orleans (46-36)
6) Utah (46-36)
7) Minnesota (44-38)
8) Dallas (44-38)

EAST
1) Boston (60-22)
2) Philly (58-30)
3) Toronto (52-30)
4) Milwaukee (48-34)
5) Indiana (47-35)
6) Washington (45-37)
7) Miami (43-39)
8) Detroit (42-40)

I was thinking 44 wins for Mavs too. Almost went with the higher bracket. Mavs could have won another 15+ games last year with their existing roster, had players been healthy (and they didn't enact the ensuing tank). So, you add Doncic and Jordan to that roster, and I think you get to 20+ win improvement pretty quickly.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Raptors do better than 52 wins. Are they not better with Kawhi?

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-26-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

I'm with you, I'm not really a positive fan usually, but we basically added two All-Star level players, and yes, that's right, I said two.

What have you done with the real BM?

What's interesting is that if Luka and Deandre really are all-star level players next season, then it really doesn't matter quite as much if Smith and Barnes aren't. I know your opinion on Barnes, but I think Smith is still the big wild card in the equation. If he takes that next step, then we're closer to being good than being bad again.

Budapest Maverick · 07-26-2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

What have you done with the real BM?

What's interesting is that if Luka and Deandre really are all-star level players next season, then it really doesn't matter quite as much if Smith and Barnes aren't. I know your opinion on Barnes, but I think Smith is still the big wild card in the equation. If he takes that next step, then we're closer to being good than being bad again.

Yeah, we will never agree on Barnes (I don't want him extended), but Dennis has huge potential for sure, I hope the game will slow down for him a little and his shot will be more consistent. From Luka I expect a Simmons-esque season, and he is actually the main reason why I also expect DAJ to thrive here. His game will complement Jordan's abilities so much.