(NSFW) OFFICIAL: Deandre Jordan sucks

[bunkmoreland]

Originally Posted by Dnowit41

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/dea...s-free-agency/

Thoughts?

What a chump.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Dnowit41

Thoughts?

3 mins of Deandre passing gas as perfume.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Dnowit41

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/dea...s-free-agency/

Thoughts?

F that clown.

[hayth.james.g]

Honestly he said nothing.

[Melonhead]

Not giving him the satisfaction of watching that queer video as I know he wont actually address why he acted like such a bottom bitch that got cold feet and cant confront the Mavs like a man and explain the situation

[Twenty4sevenn]

He didn't even act like he did anything wrong. Just passed it off as being a "human" with "emotions just like everybody else". Like he was justified in the way he behaved.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I don't blame him for changing his mind because the Mavs weren't going to be a contender next season with or with him. Easier for him to accept that he isn't a star and to hide his weaknesses behind Griffin and Paul. It's human to change your mind...especially with a big decision like this.

The issue was always that he couldn't do the decent thing and just call Cuban. One simple little call would have made a world of difference.

I wouldn't mind just seeing this thread closed. It's over. Moving on...

[MFFL]

I wouldn't have mind his change of heart - even at the last minute - if he would have told the FANS that he had changed his mind. Cuban deserves an apology but not as much as the FANS

"Sorry Dallas fans but I'm going back to LA".

If that had been tweeted in the early afternoon, it would have spared us the agony of that night. The gutless pig doesn't even understand that he OWED us that

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

When you perpetually draft in the 18-28 range, have no valuable trade assets, and no young stars or superstars, you're only going to be able to pick up other teams' scraps or damaged (mentally or physically) goods. No young healthy star in his right mind would come to this situation unless he is forced via trade or drafted. And no GM with half a brain would trade away a young healthy star that has his shit together upstairs.

Until we lock down a star PG or Center I don't see anyone of any significance coming here in free agency.

Which is why you MUST make your draft picks count. The Rockets have picked up plenty of players with even worse draft picks, and packaged them together for other assets. When you have decent draft picks, you have assets. When you suck at the draft is when your cupboard is bare. I will never understand or agree with Cuban's disdain for the draft. If you are looking for role players, then, yes, you can pick those up as vet min FA's. But they aren't going to suddenly become young players. You can't build a team around them.

If only high draft picks are worth it....why did they pay so much for Chandler Parsons, who was a second round pick?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Which is why you MUST make your draft picks count. The Rockets have picked up plenty of players with even worse draft picks, and packaged them together for other assets. When you have decent draft picks, you have assets. When you suck at the draft is when your cupboard is bare. I will never understand or agree with Cuban's disdain for the draft. If you are looking for role players, then, yes, you can pick those up as vet min FA's. But they aren't going to suddenly become young players. You can't build a team around them.

If only high draft picks are worth it....why did they pay so much for Chandler Parsons, who was a second round pick?

Been saying this for years not only is it dumb but its an easy built in excuse for failure- we never really cared anyway!

[Underdog]

@DLord_DBdotcom: Fallout from DJordan mess w LAC coach Doc Rivers at center of it all. Now, DAJs agent Dan Fegan will no longer rep for his son Austin Rivers

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@DLord_DBdotcom: Fallout from DJordan mess w LAC coach Doc Rivers at center of it all. Now, DAJs agent Dan Fegan will no longer rep for his son Austin Rivers

I don't see how Fegan could represent anyone on the Clippers while Doc Rivers is the coach. Trust was broken when Rivers didn't insist DJ talk to his agent. Nearly impossible to build back that trust, and certainly not without some intention to do so.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Well it bears repeating that if an NBA team reneged on a player then the players union would cause a s**8 storm.

[bigcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfnA45tYLg

DeAndre Jordan is THE FRIGHTENED MAN-BOY

[NeedlesKane]

Who would you rather have? Our current three headed Center or DJ and who knows who else as his backups? Maybe Sarge would be back. It's hard to say.

[Five-ofan]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Who would you rather have? Our current three headed Center or DJ and who knows who else as his backups? Maybe Sarge would be back. It's hard to say.

Dj and the gopher from caddy shack would be preferable to our current 3 headed center(ignoring other positions)

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Dj and the gopher from caddy shack would be preferable to our current 3 headed center(ignoring other positions)

Yeah, DJ might be a bitch, but he's an extremely talented bitch (and this is still a league where talent trumps all).

On the other hand, I stuck a bunch of pins in the knees of my DeAndre Jordan voodoo doll, so our 3-headed center rotation is probably going to look a lot better after his season-ending injury.

[sike]

this DJ debacle still hurts...

sad face.

[Thukydides]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Who would you rather have? Our current three headed Center or DJ and who knows who else as his backups? Maybe Sarge would be back. It's hard to say.

The more I think about it, the more I´m fine with all, what happened. Sure it would have been nice to have Deandre, but we wouldn´t have D-Will and Zaza.

The question above really can´t be answered until we´ve seen, what we get from Sammy and McGee. The best case for our three centers is having a flexible and hard to adjust on rotation, that on the other hand can adapt easily to opponents.

Furthermore I´m not as bitter as I was about loosing Tyson again. His contract really is ridiculous. I wouldn´t be happy with it at all, if we had signed him for all that money.

Considering all of that to me the biggest loss is, that Aminu has left us. He will be missed badly and we can only hope that Justin Anderson can carry some of that load. Otherwise this could get very ugly. And even if he can, we still need someone (Evans??) to step up as a athletic PF, because Aminu was so versatile and valuable.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Thukydides

Considering all of that to me the biggest loss is, that Aminu has left us. He will be missed badly and we can only hope that Justin Anderson can carry some of that load. Otherwise this could get very ugly. And even if he can, we still need someone (Evans??) to step up as a athletic PF, because Aminu was so versatile and valuable.

I'm hoping Ndour can eventually become our next Aminu.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I'm hoping Ndour can eventually become our next Aminu.

If he makes the 15-man roster...

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I'm hoping Ndour can eventually become our next Aminu.

Unlikely that he will do it on this roster. We now have 20 players on our roster, 14 of which have guaranteed contracts for the year.

Pachulia/Dalembert/McGee/Mejri/Famous
Dirk/Charlie V/Powell/N'Dour
Parsons/Evans/Wilson/Ashley
Matthews/Anderson/Jenkins
Williams/Harris/Barea/Felton

Only one of the bolded names will make the roster

the rest will keep their million dollars in guaranteed money and be whisked away to to play for NVE down in the D-League with Mike James and Eric Griffin.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Unlikely that he will do it on this roster. We now have 20 players on our roster, 14 of which have guaranteed contracts for the year.

Pachulia/Dalembert/McGee/Mejri/Famous
Dirk/Charlie V/Powell/N'Dour
Parsons/Evans/Wilson/Ashley
Matthews/Anderson/Jenkins
Williams/Harris/Felton

Only one of the bolded names will make the roster

the rest will keep their million dollars in guaranteed money and be whisked away to to play for NVE down in the D-League with Mike James and Eric Griffin.

Barea?
Wright?

Did I miss something?

[DGM]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Unlikely that he will do it on this roster. We now have 20 players on our roster, 14 of which have guaranteed contracts for the year.

Pachulia/Dalembert/McGee/Mejri/Famous
Dirk/Charlie V/Powell/N'Dour
Parsons/Evans/Wilson/Ashley
Matthews/Anderson/Jenkins
Williams/Harris/Felton

Only one of the bolded names will make the roster

the rest will keep their million dollars in guaranteed money and be whisked away to to play for NVE down in the D-League with Mike James and Eric Griffin.

Jenkins and N'Dour are my choices. Need a two until Matthews is fully healed. N'Dour will stay and he will play. He is very skilled.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by DGM

Jenkins and N'Dour are my choices. Need a two until Matthews is fully healed. N'Dour will stay and he will play. He is very skilled.

Mine too but with McGee's physical and mental issues I have a feeling Mejri will be the one.
Personally I'd rather keep N'Dour over CV for long-term purposes.

[EricaLubarsky]

6 guys, one spot.

Looking at the roster makeup, Jenkins makes the most sense for his shooting, spark off the bench, and to backup the 2. Mejri looks really interesting but McGee/Dally/Pachulia probably have the spot manned.

[Underdog]

I'm thinking Jenkins gets that last spot since we need depth at the position with Wes probably missing some time.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I'm thinking Jenkins gets that last spot since we need depth at the position with Wes probably missing some time.

Matthews, Anderson, Harris, Barea and Parsons can all play the 2 so I'm not sure why we need Jenkins. He's probably the most talented of the guys fighting for a roster spot, and we could use another 3pt threat, but I think Center could become a huge problem by mid-season.
McGee and Dalembert along with Zaza could be a nice 3 headed monster but it could also be a complete mess if McGee gets in Rick's doghouse early (which is highly likely imo) and Dalembert isn't motivated. I like Powell at the 4 but want no part of him at the 5...especially in our division.

Also, I see Zaza as a nice trade piece at TDL so I think it would be wise to carry a 4th center even if that player spends most of his time in the D-league.

N'Dour would be my favorite to keep because I think Aminu was a huge loss and N'Dour could eventually become that type of player but I just feel our center situation is very shaky. I don't see any of our centers on the roster next season so I'd rather just try to develop Mejri, Famous or some other young center who has some upside.

[Thukydides]

I couldn´t understand, if we keep Felton over a guy like Ndour or Jenkins. Why should we do that? Give me Jenkins or Meijri or Ndour, but get rid of Felton.. please

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Matthews, Anderson, Harris, Barea and Parsons can all play the 2 so I'm not sure why we need Jenkins. He's probably the most talented of the guys fighting for a roster spot, and we could use another 3pt threat, but I think Center could become a huge problem by mid-season.
McGee and Dalembert along with Zaza could be a nice 3 headed monster but it could also be a complete mess if McGee gets in Rick's doghouse early (which is highly likely imo) and Dalembert isn't motivated. I like Powell at the 4 but want no part of him at the 5...especially in our division.

Matthews Anderson and Harris are the only ones I'd really call 2's or at least depth to play the 2 on a consistent basis. The others may have moments where in a given situation they may be considered a "2" but no way would I rely on them to soak up mins nightly at the 2 in a competitive situation. Looking at those 3, Matthews is coming off of a major injury and Harris having a history of bumps and bruises. So I'd argue Jenkins is needed quite a bit actually.

Also, I like what I read about N'Dour but I don't see him making the final roster unless he beat out Evans. I don't really see the point in taking up another roster spot for a guy who would essentially be the same type of player or at least bring a similar skill set(if we are talking an Aminu type) yet more than likely not ready to contribute now even if an injury opened the door. Especially since Evans is only 27 himself so he too could still refine himself some under RC, and is here at the min.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we did in fact keep felton and only did keep 1 of these young guys and the rest all played for Legends. We don't really have many contracts options without him in terms of trades. And in a worst-case scenario of Dwill and Harris both having some injuries(given their history) then all we have is JJ. It just makes a lot of sense to keep Felton right now to me instead of another project player. If we were tanking I'd of course see it differently. If we did lose Felton though Mejri would be my personal favorite as well to get the spot.

[Underdog]

Bryan Wilson has some kind of device that can steal my thoughts... Spooky.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

McGee's contract isn't fully guaranteed, so I'm assuming his health will determine whether he makes it or not. Really hope Merji surprises and takes his spot.


All of our four pgs are interchangeable with the 2 guard, so I'm not really worried about the depth. I'd take N'Dour over Jenkins based on what we know now.

This would be my team if they don't trade or waive Felton...

Pachulia/Dalembert/Mejri
Dirk/Charlie V/Powell/N'Dour
Parsons/Evans
Matthews/Anderson
Williams/Barea/Harris/Felton

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Bryan Wilson has some kind of device that can steal my thoughts... Spooky.

You should do what John Noble does... orrrrrrr maybe you are just using the wrong foil.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Matthews Anderson and Harris are the only ones I'd really call 2's or at least depth to play the 2 on a consistent basis. The others may have moments where in a given situation they may be considered a "2" but no way would I rely on them to soak up mins nightly at the 2 in a competitive situation. Looking at those 3, Matthews is coming off of a major injury and Harris having a history of bumps and bruises. So I'd argue Jenkins is needed quite a bit actually.

Also, I like what I read about N'Dour but I don't see him making the final roster unless he beat out Evans. I don't really see the point in taking up another roster spot for a guy who would essentially be the same type of player or at least bring a similar skill set(if we are talking an Aminu type) yet more than likely not ready to contribute now even if an injury opened the door. Especially since Evans is only 27 himself so he too could still refine himself some under RC, and is here at the min.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we did in fact keep felton and only did keep 1 of these young guys and the rest all played for Legends. We don't really have many contracts options without him in terms of trades. And in a worst-case scenario of Dwill and Harris both having some injuries(given their history) then all we have is JJ. It just makes a lot of sense to keep Felton right now to me instead of another project player. If we were tanking I'd of course see it differently. If we did lose Felton though Mejri would be my personal favorite as well to get the spot.

Agree with some of this but I'd carry 4 centers. Still don't agree with Jenkins over N'Dour or Mejri because if we need a 3pt specialist we have CV.
If Matthews doesn't get heavy minutes this year due to injury does it really matter?

I think this season should be considered an audition for players to merit a roster spot or major role the following season. I'm okay with keeping Jenkins over one of our 30+year olds because of some upside but if we are seriously trying to win this season Jenkins won't make a big enough difference.

Agree with the Felton part because we need that near $5mil as salary substance if someone happens to become available. I think Zaza is valuable for the same reason and that's one of the reasons why I'd carry 4 centers.

[Underdog]

Surprised this hasn't been posted yet...

Los Angeles Clippers fined $250K for illegal pitch to DeAndre Jordan

The league said Tuesday that the Clippers had made a presentation to the then-free agent on July 2 that improperly included a potential third-party endorsement opportunity. League rules prohibit teams from arranging for others to provide compensation for a player unless it is included in a contract or is otherwise permitted by the collective bargaining agreement.

[Bryan_Wilson]

If this was reversed and Cuban was the one who did this I have a hard time believing it would be just a 250k fine. That may be large in the realm of NBA fines but IIRC Cuban was fined 100k back when Lebron was a free agent for simply stating he would sign him after whatever date. The Hawks owner made comments about being interested in James and then rattled off a few other players and got a 25k fine for seemingly the same/worse violation.

I am operating on the assumption that fines for this type of thing could go as high as 5 million and cost draft picks I thought(prolly wrong but that is what I thought it was). 250k to a billion dollar team/owner even if it was for what they state it to be and nothing else... just seems pointless. Would a 250k fine really stop a team from trying to gain an unfair advantage when recruiting players they are trying to pay 20mill a year for?

[BPo001]

Brad Turner: Clippers center DeAndre Jordan has parted ways with his representatives from Relativity Sports, per source.
– via Twitter BA_Turner
Brad Turner: DJ has now been with 3 agents in seven years, Joel Bell, Wasserman Media Group, Relativity Sports.
– via Twitter BA_Turner

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Brad Turner: Clippers center DeAndre Jordan has parted ways with his representatives from Relativity Sports, per source.
– via Twitter BA_Turner
Brad Turner: DJ has now been with 3 agents in seven years, Joel Bell, Wasserman Media Group, Relativity Sports.
– via Twitter BA_Turner

Primadonnas are hard to deal with.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Brad Turner: Clippers center DeAndre Jordan has parted ways with his representatives from Relativity Sports, per source.
– via Twitter BA_Turner
Brad Turner: DJ has now been with 3 agents in seven years, Joel Bell, Wasserman Media Group, Relativity Sports.
– via Twitter BA_Turner

I will guess this was a 2 way street here.

Dan Fagan doesn't want him anymore. Dan represented him to owners. He lied. By proxy -- the representation lied.

How easy is it going to be for Fagan now to go to an owner and say I want/need this (maybe not so much on the stars, but the rest of them) and the owner be able to believe him. How many times do you think Fagan will have to listen to, but you worked a deal out with Mark for Deandre and then that didn't happen. The only answer Fagan can really give is that, we don't do business that way, and he is no longer with us.

I know that the media portrayed it as Dan Fagan forcing Deandre to do something that he really didn't want to do -- but from what I heard that simply wasn't the case - Dallas offered him everything he asked for, and now Dan Fagan has lots of egg on his face.

That break-up was inevitable with the loss of trust.

[bunkmoreland]

I heard that DeAndre broke the news to Fagan by having his mother leave him a voicemail.