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Old 03-26-2013, 11:13 AM   #81
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Why does it have to be written in stone? It's not like we had the cap space many times to sign a big FA in the last 15 or so years. Dallas is like the 5th biggest market, a big city, the weather is good, tax system is good... I mean, i don't live there, but it doesn't make sense to get satisfied being a 2nd tier type franchise.
I'm not saying I like it.
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I'm not saying I like it.
Even if it's true, it doesn't have to be this way forever, right? Dallas has basically every advantage that your typical big market teams has.
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The problem is that there really aren't that many difference makers in the nba. Probably a handful, and they want to play on the coasts. Makes sense.
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Iggy would be awesome if we strike out on you know who... He can't shoot worth a damn, but one of the best, if not the best passing shooting guard/small forward, and a truly elite perimeter defender, and probably the second best transition player in the league.

I would try to sign him, and probably overpay Pekovic. I wouldn't re-sign Mayo, nor Collison. Igoudala would have the ball in his hands a lot anyway, so we'd need a sharp shooter PG. Like a Luke Ridnour for example.

Problem is, i don't think Minny would let Pek go. He is a dominant offensive center in a league that does not have dominant offensive centers anymore, and still relatively young. What do you guys think about Tyreke Evans? He will be an UFA as well. Tyreke/Igoudala backcourt?
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I'm firmly against pursuing Evans. After pounding my head against a wall watching guys not able to get the ball to the best player, I have no interest in bringing in a notoriously low bball IQ guy like that.

I'd be much more inclined to pursue Calderon
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I'll say it again. Resign Wright. He is a gamer and should be the first big off our bench next year. I only see him getting better, and perhaps a little bigger.
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I'm firmly against pursuing Evans. After pounding my head against a wall watching guys not able to get the ball to the best player, I have no interest in bringing in a notoriously low bball IQ guy like that.

I'd be much more inclined to pursue Calderon
Yeah, i'm not very high on the player Tyreke is at the moment, but he still has some untapped potential. At the moment it is undeniable that his playing style is counter-productive, he simply needs to pump the crap out of the ball to get where he wants to, and obviously a terrible shooter, or at least terribly inconsistent...

If it comes down between him and Mayo, i guess i would still take him, because he's a better passer, has better size, better athleticism, and again, some untapped potential. I would stay away from Jennings though. I went through the FA list, and the truth is, there are some names out there who could help us. It's actually a pretty decent market.

PG's: Paul, Jack, Jennings, Evans, Teague, or even Udrih.

SG's: Igoudala, Ginobili (i know, haha), Evans, Tony Allen, JJ Redick, Nick Young, Jr. Smith, Belinelli.

SF's: Pierce, Jost Smith, Jackson, Corey Brewer, Budinger, Maggette

PF's: Josh Smith, David West, Millsap, Diaw, Hickson

C's: Howard, Bynum, Pekovic, Hickson, Mozgov, Dalembert

And i probably missed some. I think all of those guys has a decent chance for being moved, most of them are either UFA's, or has a qualifying offer or player option they can/will waive, so yeah, if Cuban wants it, we could build a very deep team once again. I was initially against this idea, but Dirk clearly stated he wants to play another 2 seasons at least after his current contract's is up, so that means 4 years, right? We might as well give out 4 or 5 years contracts then.

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Uh. He's hoping for a big payday. the big question is whether he's opting out in hopes of going somewhere else or simply to force Denver to renegotiate his contract. I still think SG should be a secondary concern. But if you can get an effective PG on the cheap, then maybe picking up him and a upper tier C might be nice...
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Iggy is awesome. His simple stats are all average, but his advanced stats are all testament to his ability to change games in unique ways (deflections, hockey assists, defense, intangibles).

The problem is that Iggy is opting out of 1yr/16mill in order to get a longer and possibly bigger contract-- and his agent wants to get him locked down to an albatross before the NBA tightens its belt even more. He'd take up 60% of our cap space and we'd be left with Dirk/Marion/Iggy and not a lot else. He's a great distributor when he's slashing, but he cannot be our primary ball handler. He's not a prolific or efficient scorer and is much more a Marion than a Robin for Dirk.

I think Iggy is a case of a guy that can help, but shouldnt be our top priority just because we have other needs that are much more pressing.

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Okafor has a 14m player option next season and told he is planning to opt in:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ds-Next-Season

But thats a guy i would go after in 2014 if we dont sign Dwight or Peko. And yeah hell no to Bynum
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I think the plan of the FO is pretty much this:

Try to hit one of the two homeruns (Paul, Dwight). If they miss (probably) i think they will try to sign two solid guys out of the group of Mayo/Iggy/Jennings/Josh Smith/Peko/Jack this year. I think Mayo gonna stay in this case. Of course could be hard with guys like Iggy or Josh that are looking for near max contracts to sign additional another guy like Mayo. But lets see.

And of course keep an eye on the numbers so you have 2014 with the saved money on Dirks new contract and Marion gone max cap: Either for a max star player or again two solid guys that probably are looking to sign with a new team: Granger, Gortat, Cousins, Okafor etc.

In 2014 i could see us with a balanced S5 with five guys on 7-13m contracts, something like

Jack or Jennings or Lowry
Mayo
Iggy or Granger or Deng
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Gortat or Peko or Okafor or Cousins

(of course it wouldnt be Iggy AND Peko or Josh and Peko since they should be both be in the 12m+ range). But i think we will see someting like that over a single superstar signing in 2013 and/or 2014.

Here are the bigger 2014 guys (the Heat will stay obv together) but a lot of interesting guys: George and Granger wont work in Indiana, Gortat isnt happy and the Suns are stuck in mediocre with terrible contracts. Same with the Raptors and Lowry. Wizards have Nene longterm under contract etc

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I think the plan of the FO is pretty much this:

Try to hit one of the two homeruns (Paul, Dwight). If they miss (probably) i think they will try to sign two solid guys out of the group of Mayo/Iggy/Jennings/Josh Smith/Peko/Jack this year. I think Mayo gonna stay in this case. Of course could be hard with guys like Iggy or Josh that are looking for near max contracts to sign additional another guy like Mayo. But lets see.

And of course keep an eye on the numbers so you have 2014 with the saved money on Dirks new contract and Marion gone max cap: Either for a max star player or again two solid guys that probably are looking to sign with a new team: Granger, Gortat, Cousins, Okafor etc.

In 2014 i could see us with a balanced S5 with five guys on 7-13m contracts, something like

Jack or Jennings or Lowry
Mayo
Iggy or Granger or Deng
Dirk
Gortat or Peko or Okafor or Cousins

(of course it wouldnt be Iggy AND Peko or Josh and Peko since they should be both be in the 12m+ range). But i think we will see someting like that over a single superstar signing in 2013 and/or 2014.

Here are the bigger 2014 guys (the Heat will stay obv together) but a lot of interesting guys: George and Granger wont work in Indiana, Gortat isnt happy and the Suns are stuck in mediocre with terrible contracts. Same with the Raptors and Lowry. Wizards have Nene longterm under contract etc
Solid prediction, except for the Heat part. I don't see how they can keep that team together. Lebron is going to leave and get the biggest contract in NBA history.
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I do not know if a scoring C like Pekovic is such a good idea. Look at Kaman.

Dirk needs a guy like Chandler. I think Gortat would be perfect.
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I thought rumor was mavs were going after Bynum when they strike out on Paul/Howard?
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I do not know if a scoring C like Pekovic is such a good idea. Look at Kaman.

Dirk needs a guy like Chandler. I think Gortat would be perfect.
I agree that Chandler would be a perfect fit here! Idk about Gortat. I'd rather have Pekovic.

In fact Pekovic is a terrible comparison to Kaman.
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Gortat whines about not getting enough touches, yeah on the Suns i know, but still...
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I do not know if a scoring C like Pekovic is such a good idea. Look at Kaman.

Dirk needs a guy like Chandler. I think Gortat would be perfect.
The comparison to Kaman is only halfway correct.
He's going to raise a lot of questions as to whether or not he can be a defensive match with Dirk. The comparison goes away when you talk about rebounding. It feels like Kaman's ability to rebound fell through the floor this year.
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The comparison to Kaman is only halfway correct.
He's going to raise a lot of questions as to whether or not he can be a defensive match with Dirk. The comparison goes away when you talk about rebounding. It feels like Kaman's ability to rebound fell through the floor this year.

Pekovic 8.8 rebounds in 32 min. Kaman 5.4rebounds in 20min

Pekovic 0.8 assists in 32 min. Kaman 0.8 assists in 20min

Pekovic 0.8 blocks in 32 min. Kaman .082 blocks in 20min

Pekovic .518FG% Kaman .507FG%

Gortat ...1.6 blocks in 31min .521FG% (double double guy when motivated)



I mean, look at MIN record. They are 27-46. I fear Pekovic is fool's gold to some degree.

ps: And yes, he had some really great games. But this is when he played 40min

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...nikola-pekovic

It is like combining Wright's and Brand's stats...

...dunno what to think about it. IMO we do not need an "all star" caliber C. We need an all star backcourt and a solid C who does the "dirty job" for Dirk on defense. Not a guy who "takes pride" in scoring.

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Pekovic 8.8 rebounds in 32 min. Kaman 5.4rebounds in 20min

Pekovic 0.8 assists in 32 min. Kaman 0.8 assists in 20min

Pekovic 0.8 blocks in 32 min. Kaman .082 blocks in 20min

Pekovic .518FG% Kaman .507FG%

Gortat ...1.6 blocks in 31min .521FG% (double double guy when motivated)



I mean, look at MIN record. They are 27-46. I fear Pekovic is fool's gold to some degree.

ps: And yes, he had some really great games. But this is when he played 40min

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...nikola-pekovic

It is like combining Wright's and Brand's stats...

...dunno what to think about it. IMO we do not need an "all star" caliber C. We need an all star backcourt and a solid C who does the "dirty job" for Dirk on defense. Not a guy who "takes pride" in scoring.
Yes, look at their record. Also, be sure to look at how many guys they've had out of their lineup (including their best player).

Pek is going to be overpaid. There's no way to dispute that. All it takes is one team to do it.

Which do you think is actually realistic to obtain: a caliber of C you mentioned or a backcourt (2 pieces) and a C of the caliber you mentioned?
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Which do you think is actually realistic to obtain: a caliber of C you mentioned or a backcourt (2 pieces) and a C of the caliber you mentioned?
Throwing Money at Pekovic, Bynum, Cousins and co. is more realistic.

But you do not beat OKC, SAS, MIA with a weak starting backcourt. That's for sure.

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I prefer to grab Okafor next year for 7-8M than paying Bynums knees twice as much..
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John Wall has not been a great decision maker. I think we need someone with higher BBALL IQ.
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I'm sorry. 8 days ago I sat in complementary $200 seats and watched a 22 year old John Wall up close as he put up 47 points and single-handedly demolished the Grizzlies. Not wanting him on the Mavs is lunacy.
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I'm sorry. 8 days ago I sat in complementary $200 seats and watched a 22 year old John Wall up close as he put up 47 points and single-handedly demolished the Grizzlies. Not wanting him on the Mavs is lunacy.
Jennings had a 55 points game, and basically has been terrible ever since. Tony Delk has a 50 point game in the NBA. Wall had a terrible game after that btw, and he is not a very good player at the moment, also injury prone to top that. I would rather try my luck with Evans, even though he has much of the same problems. I think Dirk would hate to play with either to be honest.
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I thought our experiment with fast but stupid guards this season should have made it obvious we need smarts at that position.
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Jennings had a 55 points game, and basically has been terrible ever since. Tony Delk has a 50 point game in the NBA. Wall had a terrible game after that btw, and he is not a very good player at the moment, also injury prone to top that. I would rather try my luck with Evans, even though he has much of the same problems. I think Dirk would hate to play with either to be honest.
They started the season 5-28. They're above .500 with him back in the lineup, and 18-15 with him starting. This despite playing on one of the worst teams in the league, with constant injuries to Nene, Ariza, Beal, Barbosa, and missing games from Okafor and Webster. He's commonly carrying guys like Garrett Temple, Seraphim, Singleton, Jan Vesely (who is beyond awful), Martin, and a bunch of other fringe NBA guys to wins. These include some significant wins, including impressive ones against the Grizzlies, Lakers, Rockets, Nuggets, Nets, Knicks, Clippers, Bulls.

Since the all-star game he's averaging 19.4/7.9/4.4 on .453/.455/.844 in ~34 mpg. They're +3.6/100 possessions with him and -6.2/100 possessions without him (for a +9.8/100 possessions net).

He's a tall, lightning quick guard that can get to the rim at will, runs the break to near perfection, is above average on defense (though could improve his positioning), has continued to improve every year, makes his teammates significantly better, has a demonstrated ability to take over a game, has been terrific playing out of the pick and roll, and, oh, he's 22 and barely scratching the surface. It's lazy and ignorant to dismiss him.
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I thought our experiment with fast but stupid guards this season should have made it obvious we need smarts at that position.
A late first rounder that got benched for George Hill v. a former first round draft pick that is enabling his team to massively exceed expectations while producing sublime numbers. Real great comparison.

Oh, and John Wall knows how to make an entry pass and run a pick and roll with a big.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon...ayton/2029285/
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I'd probably place Derrick Rose ahead of him.
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Oh, and John Wall knows how to make an entry pass and run a pick and roll with a big.
Oh God, what a silly thing to bring up. What difference does it make whether he was drafted 1st or 20th? We're talking about the importance of speed and IQ. Of course John Wall is better than Collison in both regards, but that's not my point.

I value BBALL IQ over speed when it comes to a PG and you only need to look at Collison to see that. Sure JW has more speed and IQ than Collison, but honestly, who doesn't? Wall's IQ is not that great, that's my point. When we had a genius running the show, we won a championship. Having a speedy dumbass has not led us to a great season. I want a guy like Calderon.

I am, however, curious as to whether JW could blossom into savvy player under Carlisle. I'm not willing to risk Dirk's last few years to find out though.
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Would take Wall in a heartbeat, but is there really anyway he'll come available to the Mavs? Won't Wizards just max him out?
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I do not know if a scoring C like Pekovic is such a good idea. Look at Kaman.

Dirk needs a guy like Chandler. I think Gortat would be perfect.
I second Gortat. He's unhappy in Phoenix and he could flourish in a winning situation with a stable organization like Dallas. Price would have to be right, however. He'll be 30 this time next year, albeit w/ relatively low mileage and friendly contract for next season.

Another decent option could be Dalembert.

Will have to assume Okafor will opt in and not leave 14 mil. on the table. He's probably only likely to get 3yrs.24 or so on the open market
Wizards stand to improve a bunch next season as well.
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Oh God, what a silly thing to bring up. What difference does it make whether he was drafted 1st or 20th? We're talking about the importance of speed and IQ. Of course John Wall is better than Collison in both regards, but that's not my point.

I value BBALL IQ over speed when it comes to a PG and you only need to look at Collison to see that. Sure JW has more speed and IQ than Collison, but honestly, who doesn't? Wall's IQ is not that great, that's my point. When we had a genius running the show, we won a championship. Having a speedy dumbass has not led us to a great season. I want a guy like Calderon.

I am, however, curious as to whether JW could blossom into savvy player under Carlisle. I'm not willing to risk Dirk's last few years to find out though.
John Wall is so much better than Calderon, it's ridiculous.
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