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Underdog · 01-31-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Male30Dan

:O at the possibility of 62M WITH Porzingis and Luka already on the team... Man how I hope Barnes/Powell bet on themselves!

I see Barnes possibly opting out so he can try to get another 4-year contract while he's healthy & productive (4/60 or something along those lines), but no way in hell does Powell opt out of that $10m when he's probably looking at something in the 3/15 range.

sefant77 · 01-31-2019, 09:07 PM

I also see him opting out now....the Mavs have now two legit 23-25PPG stars, a chucker in THJ and around 28m cap. He should be stressed about his role and usage rate next season

Best case for Barnes: 3rd option behind the stars.
Worst case: Mavs sign another 18-20PPG dude and he fights with THJ who is the 4th option.

Luka and Doncic AND 50m+ cap would be insane. And imagine we are keeping the pick this year...

saclare · 02-01-2019, 12:29 AM

One Klay Thompson please...

Me.B · 02-01-2019, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Free agency has obviously changed

Roster after this year
Porzingis/Powell*/???
Barnes*/???/???
Luka/ ???/ Broekhoff
Hardaway/Lee/???
Brunson/ ???/ ???

27mill to work with if Powell and Barnes opt in (enough for one max contract for a player with 1-6 years in the league)
62 mill to work with if Barnes and Powell opt out

Players expiring
Kleber
Dirk
Barea
Harris
Mejri
DFS

You’re missing Trey Burke who was part of the KP trade. He’s also a UFA after the season. I think they will definitely bring back Maxi and DFS and will need at least 1 more backup PG. Devin Harris could be brought back on a vet min deal. So they won’t exactly have enough for a max player after signing those 3. Personally I would prefer for them to sign a couple guys to 1 year deals and save their cap space for the 2020 off season.

j0Shi · 02-01-2019, 12:57 AM

So now that we're rumored to go for Vuc in the summer... Are we trying to build the all-white team?

EricaLubarsky · 02-01-2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Guards potentially available
Kyrie Irving (PO)
Klay Thompson (UFA)
Kemba Walker (UFA)
Jimmy Butler (PO)
JJ Reddick (UFA)
Danny Green (UFA)
Tyreke Evans (UFA)
Eric Bledsoe (UFA)
Derrick Rose (UFA)
Spencer Dinwiddie (UFA)
Terry Rozier (QO/RFA)
D’Angelo Russell (QO/RFA)
Ricky Rubio (UFA)
Wesley Matthews (UFA)
Kent Bazemore (PO)
Terrence Ross (UFA)
Garrett Temple (UFA)
Allen Crabbe (PO)
Austin Rivers (UFA)
Goran Dragic (UFA)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (UFA)
Rodney McGruder (QO/RFA)
Seth Curry (UFA)
Darren Collison (UFA)
Jeff Teague (PO)
Patrick Beverley (UFA)
Malcolm Brogdon (QO/RFA)
Isaiah Thomas (UFA)
TJ McConnell (UFA)
Rajon Rondo (UFA)
Elfrid Payton (UFA)

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EricaLubarsky · 02-01-2019, 01:10 AM

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Forwards available
Kevin Durant (PO)
Kawhi Leonard (PO)
Kristaps Porzingis (QO/RFA)
Khris Middleton (PO)
Tobias Harris (UFA)
Nikola Mirotic (UFA)
Julius Randle (PO)
Harrison Barnes (PO)
Bojan Bogdanovic (UFA)
Paul Millsap (TO)
Jabari Parker (TO)
Marcus Morris (UFA)
Markieff Morris (UFA)
Thaddeus Young (UFA)
Al-Farouq Aminu (UFA)
Bobby Portis (QO/RFA)
Marvin Williams (PO)
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (TO)
Trevor Ariza (UFA)
Rudy Gay (UFA)
Kelly Oubre (QO/RFA)
Luc Mbah a Moute (UFA)
Wilson Chandler (UFA)

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EricaLubarsky · 02-01-2019, 01:11 AM

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Centers available
Boogie Cousins (UFA)
Al Hortfort (PO)
Marc Casol (PO)
Nikola Vucevic (UFA)
Deandre Jordan (UFA)
Enes Kanter (UFA)
Hassan Whiteside (PO)
Jonas Valanciunas (PO)
Willie Cauley-Stein (QO/RFA)
Brook Lopez (UFA)
Robin Lopez (UFA)
Nerlens Noel (PO)
Javale McGee (UFA)
Kyle O’Quinn (UFA)

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SMC0007 · 02-01-2019, 02:05 AM

Vuc

sefant77 · 02-01-2019, 02:58 AM

We are going to need a lot of defense beside Doncingis.

Middleton or Bledsoe for big bucks and Beverley for small bucks

saclare · 02-01-2019, 10:53 AM

I thought Porzingis was actually a really good defender? Was among league leaders in blocks in his full seasons.

Skywalker · 02-01-2019, 12:12 PM

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I thought Porzingis was actually a really good defender? Was among league leaders in blocks in his full seasons.

He's a good rim protector I think, not sure how he fares defending the pick n roll out on the perimeter tbh

Jack.Kerr · 02-01-2019, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

He's a good rim protector I think, not sure how he fares defending the pick n roll out on the perimeter tbh

He had the mobility to cut off the ball, and the length to recover, and the reach to challenge an outside shot.

Still has length and reach. Be optimistic about the mobility.

Murphy3 · 02-01-2019, 12:22 PM

I don't have much fear about a 23 year old making a full recovery from a torn ACL...

mac222b · 02-01-2019, 05:03 PM

Any of the 3 Bucks, whichever gets squeezed, would fit well here. Would like Brogdon the best. Some team will offer 4yrs 60m. And you get tied up in FA waiting on the Bucks to match or not.

Bledsoe is an excellent defender/secondary ball handler. But he's pushing 30 and injury prone. Also shooting 30% from 3. Think he goes for something like 4yr.72m

Middleton's defense is middling. But he can shoot and create. He will also come with the highest price tag. 4yr. 100m minimum.

mac222b · 02-01-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

I also see him opting out now....the Mavs have now two legit 23-25PPG stars, a chucker in THJ and around 28m cap. He should be stressed about his role and usage rate next season

Best case for Barnes: 3rd option behind the stars.
Worst case: Mavs sign another 18-20PPG dude and he fights with THJ who is the 4th option.

Luka and Doncic AND 50m+ cap would be insane. And imagine we are keeping the pick this year...

This would be unreal. Could legit get two starters and retain Maxi and DSJ.

If we manage to finish 8th worst, which is at least somewhat realistic, we have a 26.3% shot at top4. No way we finish bottom 5 so we need some luck

EricaLubarsky · 02-01-2019, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

So now that we're rumored to go for Vuc in the summer... Are we trying to build the all-white team?

What rumor is that?

thewizard · 02-01-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

What rumor is that?

From a DMN article by Brad Townsend. He's pretty reliable I think? I like Vuc but I feel like he'd be a disaster on defense with Luka/KP. What do I know though?

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...-agency-summer

MFFL · 02-01-2019, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

So now that we're rumored to go for Vuc in the summer... Are we trying to build the all-white team?

It would be sweet but unless Barnes opts out we will only have the MLE

Underdog · 02-01-2019, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

It would be sweet but unless Barnes opts out we will only have the MLE

Barnes is going to opt out -- there's a bunch of teams with a ton of money to throw around this summer... Not so much in 2020.

saclare · 02-02-2019, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Barnes is going to opt out -- there's a bunch of teams with a ton of money to throw around this summer... Not so much in 2020.

Assuming he has good representation and smart people in his ear...I think we saw that surprisingly bad advice can be given a la DSJ absence.

Underdog · 02-02-2019, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Assuming he has good representation and smart people in his ear...I think we saw that surprisingly bad advice can be given a la DSJ absence.

DSJ was getting bad advice from his DAD -- it's kinda hard to shut out your parents at his age.

Plus, this isn't Barnes' first rodeo, his representation landed him the contract that we're currently overpaying him. They know what they're doing.

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 05:22 PM

July is going to be so much freaking drama

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So the Pelicans are trusting Danny Ainge and the Celtics
And the Knicks are trusting Kevin Durant
And the Lakers are trusting Anthony Davis and Rich Paul
And the Clippers are trusting Kawhi Leonard
And the Mavs are trusting Kristaps Porzingis...

What could possibly go wrong!?!?!

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-06-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

July is going to be so much freaking drama

Don't forget the Celtics are trusting Irving themselves...a guy who thinks the world is flat.

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 10:31 PM

ding ding ding

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6 Min.Vor 6 Minuten

After trading Barnes for Jackson ($3.28M next season) and Z-Bo (expiring), the Mavs are just about in the max cap space ballgame depending on if/where they pick in the draft.

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 10:37 PM

So....we throw big bucks to.....?

My guess is Vucevic or Middleton. Dont think they have a shot at any of the eight big names.

Dtownsfinest · 02-06-2019, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

ding ding ding

What are they saying? Basically if we don’t pick in the top 5?

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 10:48 PM

If Hawks get our pick we have around 30m cap (40 if Powell opts out)

If we get our pick we just have around 23-24m cap (or 33-34 if Powell opts out)

But now we are able to throw at least a 23m offer out there

Bryan_Wilson · 02-06-2019, 10:49 PM

So let me get this straight. In one year we went from a doormat to having Luka KP and the ability to open up a max slot to add to them?

seriously... GM of the year.

EricaLubarsky · 02-06-2019, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

If Hawks get our pick we have around 30m cap (40 if Powell opts out)

If we get our pick we just have around 23-24m cap (or 33-34 if Powell opts out)

But now we are able to throw at least a 23m offer out there

A max contract for a player with fewer than 7 years of experience is 27 mill

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

So let me get this straight. In one year we went from a doormat to having Luka KP and the ability to open up a max slot to add to them?

seriously... GM of the year.

add a probably 30% chance to pick top-4, adding a third rebuilding piece even before free agency begins

hayth.james.g · 02-06-2019, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

A max contract for a player with fewer than 7 years of experience is 27 mill

What is the deadline for us to use the trade exemption? Any value for us?

Dtownsfinest · 02-06-2019, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

If Hawks get our pick we have around 30m cap (40 if Powell opts out)

If we get our pick we just have around 23-24m cap (or 33-34 if Powell opts out)

But now we are able to throw at least a 23m offer out there

I’m greedy. I want a top 5 pick and I want Powell to opt out...

Dtownsfinest · 02-06-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

So let me get this straight. In one year we went from a doormat to having Luka KP and the ability to open up a max slot to add to them?

seriously... GM of the year.

It’s all for nothing if KP can’t get healthy.

EricaLubarsky · 02-06-2019, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

What is the deadline for us to use the trade exemption? Any value for us?

They're good for one calendar year.

We don't want to use it this year because we'd be essentially trading air for a player with a salary and it seems like we want to sign a big player to play with Doncic and KP.

I believe that we have to give it up if we go over the cap, too? I'm not 100% on that, though

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

They're good for one calendar year.

yeah but we would give the exceptions up on 30. june or they would eat in our cap for the free agency

EricaLubarsky · 02-06-2019, 11:16 PM

Mavs salaries
18.15mill - Hardaway
12.76mill - Lee
10.26mill - Powell
7.7mill - Doncic
7.5mill - Porzingis (27.25mill hold)
3.3mill - Jackson
1.4mill - Brunson
1.4mill - Broekhoff
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55.7 mill in salary
75.45mill in salary and holds if we waive the rights to all other players
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33.3mill in cap room

depth chart of contracts
???/Powell*/???
Porzingis/Jackson/???
Doncic/Lee/Broekhoff
Hardway/???/???
Brunson/???/???
8 guys on roster for next season

Expiring deals
Randolph - UFA - Early bird rights
Powell - Player option 1/10 - Full bird rights
Dirk - UFA - Full bird rights
Barea - UFA - Full bird rights
Harris - UFA - Early bird rights
Burke - UFA - Full bird rights
Mejri - UFA - Early bird rights
DFS - UFA - Full bird rights
Kleber - RFA - Early bird rights

Murphy3 · 02-06-2019, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

It’s all for nothing if KP can’t get healthy.

Not sure I completely agree with that

sefant77 · 02-06-2019, 11:24 PM

KPs cap hold is just 17m.

Thats why they will agree on a max contract but just sign it after they blew the rest of their cap (allowing them to go 10m over the cap with the then KP max contract starting at 27m)

mac222b · 02-06-2019, 11:24 PM

Klay is the ideal fit and it’s not happening. Wouldn’t say no to Durant

Keep coming back to Brogdon. Secondary ballhandler, versatile defender, floor spacer. Relatively young. RFA though.

Middleton works for some of the same reasons, not sure about his defensive advanced stats but imagining he’s around average on that end.

Not sure how Vucevic and KP fit together. But we would have an incredibly skilled team offensively.