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Old 04-22-2022, 01:06 AM   #161
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DFS 47 minutes and Bullock 44 Minutes

Them two dudes are machines they never seem tired
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Old 04-22-2022, 01:26 AM   #162
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Shout out to Dorian. Didn't even realize he played 47 minutes this game.
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Old 04-22-2022, 02:19 AM   #163
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Didn’t see game but box score tells a lot.
7 guys in double figures indicates great team effort.
Good to see Green And Bertans contribute well, and even Brown and Burke be efficient for little action.
Brown 2 pts in 0 mins???
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mavericks 126 - jazz 118 (final)
— brunson: *31-1-5
— dinwiddie: 20-5-6
— kleber: 17-3-2
— bertans: 15pts
— dallas shot 49% from the field (made 18 3s)

jalen brunson in the last 15 games:
16/5/4 on 52/41/96

Mavs finished with seven players in double figures. The team shot 49.4 percent from the field and 42.9 percent from deep. On the other hand, the Jazz shot 57.4 percent from the field and 33.3 percent from deep.

We shot the ball 83 times to their shooting 69 times.
Mavs tied Utah in the rebounding department tonight: 32-32
Utah outrebounded Dallas by 19 in each of the first two games.

Mavs high 31 points for Jalen Brunson tonight in G3 win.*Your top scorers in the playoffs through the first 6 days:
Jimmy Butler 33.0 ppg
Donovan Mitchell 32.7 ppg
Jalen Brunson 32.0 ppg

Dorian Finney-Smith played 47 minutes in Game 3, the most by any Maverick in a regulation playoff game since Dirk played 48 on 4/29/08. He also played 47 on 4/29/07 and 48 on 4/29/04. Those are three of the franchise's last four instances. Something about 4/29.

Brunson is the seventh Maverick ever with consecutive 30-point games in the playoffs, joining Dirk, Luka, Ro Blackman, Mark Aguirre, Nick Van Exel, and Monta Ellis.

Maxi Kleber is 14-21 from three in this series That’s 66.7%

DWade might be the minority owner of the Utah Jazz but Jalen Marquis Brunson is the true owner of the franchise. #MFFL

Mavericks just made 13 threes in the first half of Game 3.
Maxi Kleber: 4-5
Josh Green: 3-4
Davis Bertans: 3-5
Reggie Bullock: 2-3
— Thats the most Playoff 3’s in a half in Mavs franchise history.

Next game is Saturday at 3:30 on TNT
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Old 04-22-2022, 07:34 AM   #165
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Bullock needs a shout out. Dudes plays tough defense and there were two threes he had the put the lid on two of Utahs little runs.
He is playing some gritty defense. Love what he brings.
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DFS 47 minutes and Bullock 44 Minutes

Them two dudes are machines they never seem tired
It's so much more than that too. The entire team is going balls to the wall the entire game. Shove it down their throats. Every play.
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How many more times does Brunson have to put up this kind of performance before all those who say we let him walk are silenced?

I'll STFU. I thought paying Brunson, Luka, and SD was unsustainable. Now I see it's necessary.
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Didn’t see game but box score tells a lot.
7 guys in double figures indicates great team effort.
Good to see Green And Bertans contribute well, and even Brown and Burke be efficient for little action.
Brown 2 pts in 0 mins???
Kidd subbed in reserves with less than 30 seconds and he got intentionally fouled for 2 FTs. Hit ‘em both
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:17 AM   #169
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It's so much more than that too. The entire team is going balls to the wall the entire game. Shove it down their throats. Every play.
Kidd deserves mad props for this. They all bought in. Bringing in Reggie was huge too. He and Dodo are a tough ass wing combo.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:25 AM   #170
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mavericks 126 - jazz 118 (final)
— brunson: *31-1-5
— dinwiddie: 20-5-6
— kleber: 17-3-2
— bertans: 15pts
— dallas shot 49% from the field (made 18 3s)

jalen brunson in the last 15 games:
16/5/4 on 52/41/96

Mavs finished with seven players in double figures. The team shot 49.4 percent from the field and 42.9 percent from deep. On the other hand, the Jazz shot 57.4 percent from the field and 33.3 percent from deep.

We shot the ball 83 times to their shooting 69 times.
Mavs tied Utah in the rebounding department tonight: 32-32
Utah outrebounded Dallas by 19 in each of the first two games.

Mavs high 31 points for Jalen Brunson tonight in G3 win.*Your top scorers in the playoffs through the first 6 days:
Jimmy Butler 33.0 ppg
Donovan Mitchell 32.7 ppg
Jalen Brunson 32.0 ppg

Dorian Finney-Smith played 47 minutes in Game 3, the most by any Maverick in a regulation playoff game since Dirk played 48 on 4/29/08. He also played 47 on 4/29/07 and 48 on 4/29/04. Those are three of the franchise's last four instances. Something about 4/29.

Brunson is the seventh Maverick ever with consecutive 30-point games in the playoffs, joining Dirk, Luka, Ro Blackman, Mark Aguirre, Nick Van Exel, and Monta Ellis.

Maxi Kleber is 14-21 from three in this series That’s 66.7%

DWade might be the minority owner of the Utah Jazz but Jalen Marquis Brunson is the true owner of the franchise. #MFFL

Mavericks just made 13 threes in the first half of Game 3.
Maxi Kleber: 4-5
Josh Green: 3-4
Davis Bertans: 3-5
Reggie Bullock: 2-3
— Thats the most Playoff 3’s in a half in Mavs franchise history.

Next game is Saturday at 3:30 on TNT
this was a great wrap up - did you put all this together yourself?
please do this for every game! or at least every win...
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:47 AM   #171
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https://youtu.be/tyPmL6W9kac?t=74

If you're not already familiar with Pandhank41's youtube recap videos, check it out!
it's most/all of the mavs highlights condensed with some nice additional stuff.

in the clip above he's got a pic of Dirk with 12 yo Maxi lol.

maybe mavs should start scouting their next player from Wurzberg to keep with tradition.
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https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/4...3-nba-playoffs

Excellent article from mavsmoneyball highlighting some of the adjustments that have been made.
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Brunson was stellar, but it was Kleber that swung the series in our favor.

Game 1 - Gobert had his way both defensively and on the boards. Jazz were +19 on the boards and even though our defense was stellar (and almost pulled a win despite a freak three from ONeal), Jazz just had so many more shots. Brunson was frustrated with the interior defense and we just struggled to get anything

Game 2 - Jazz came in with the same game plan but Kidd kept feeding Kleber who was wide open because Gobert struggles to move outside the paint. Gobert stayed inside and they were also +19 on the boards, but the threes kept falling and we won.

Game 3 - Kidd kept the same game plan and Kleber kept hitting. Gobert tried to get out, but when he did, the paint was open and we got some of our first layups of the series and Gobert wasn't able to bully us in the paint. We won the rebounding battle with Gobert trying to get out to shooters.

Kleber's ability to even threaten a three changed the momentum of the series.

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Bertans has helped with that too. Dunno why so many fans give him grief. I've never seen him out of position (at least not usually) or not give good effort. He is just limited in his game. He seems to have good energy though.

Having a 6'11 and 6'10 guy drain threes isn't just a luxury...it's a game changer.
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Bertans has helped with that too. Dunno why so many fans give him grief. I've never seen him out of position (at least not usually) or not give good effort. He is just limited in his game. He seems to have good energy though.

Having a 6'11 and 6'10 guy drain threes isn't just a luxury...it's a game changer.
Agree with this. Didn’t he have a chase down block too?
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Bertans has helped with that too. Dunno why so many fans give him grief. I've never seen him out of position (at least not usually) or not give good effort. He is just limited in his game. He seems to have good energy though.

Having a 6'11 and 6'10 guy drain threes isn't just a luxury...it's a game changer.
I’m wondering if they will have the same impact when Luka returns.
Luka and Powell have great chemistry so Powell will Be more involved as our big.

Probably a good situation for Kidd though because he’ll have more options.

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Agree with this. Didn’t he have a chase down block too?
yes he did! he's done that a couple times - not quick or strong enough to be a great defender but it doesn't mean he doesn't have any athleticism.

He's tall and has a really quick release - hard to defend esp if it's a little guy closing out (like conley)

I like how Bertans and Green seem to have a bit of a connection - can see them looking for each other and that there's some level of comfort playing with each other.
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Kidd deserves mad props for this. They all bought in. Bringing in Reggie was huge too. He and Dodo are a tough ass wing combo.
If Green continues to improve that could become one hell of a trio.
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If Green continues to improve that could become one hell of a trio.
Yes indeed! Even more reason to move THJ. Green deserves minutes. Green is already pretty adept at guarding 1-4, like Doe. Bullock doesn’t quite have the quicks and swivel-y hips they do so he’s much more suited for checking 2s and 3s. But they all can mix and match on any possession.
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The other thing about Green (Luka) is he’s a plus rebounder and playmaker with room to improve. So you can go Maxi, Luka, Dodo, Bullock, Green. Good spacing with Green as secondary playmaker and super switchable.
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Man... Call me crazy. I feel like this is Christmas. I just want to go to sleep and wake up to see the game lol. I am hoping we put them down.
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Man... Call me crazy. I feel like this is Christmas. I just want to go to sleep and wake up to see the game lol. I am hoping we put them down.
It feels especially exciting because the playoffs in the last couple of years have been weird and Covid-y. They finally feel normal again, and the Mavs have that intensity we haven't seen in a while.
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The other thing about Green (Luka) is he’s a plus rebounder and playmaker with room to improve. So you can go Maxi, Luka, Dodo, Bullock, Green. Good spacing with Green as secondary playmaker and super switchable.
Yeah, you have a tremendous defensive lineup with decent size playing with the best player in the league. Dodo and Green have the ability to stay with any PG/SG in the league and Bullock with most SFs.
If Green ever becomes a serious outside threat, our 1-4 could become the best balanced in the league.

I'd still like to get another big....basically a better/younger version of Powell with the ability to stretch the floor.

I do love Kidd's philosophy though of making teams matchup against us instead of the way it was with Rick. So far it seems to be working.

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Yes indeed! Even more reason to move THJ. Green deserves minutes. Green is already pretty adept at guarding 1-4, like Doe. Bullock doesn’t quite have the quicks and swivel-y hips they do so he’s much more suited for checking 2s and 3s. But they all can mix and match on any possession.
The addition of Dinwiddie, Brunson taking his game to the next level, and Green's development make THJ very expendable.

I'm still holding my breath on re-signing Brunson though.
Even though him and Luka are buddies, his recent play and potential contract situation make me wonder if he'll want to go elsewhere (NY, Detroit, Indy, etc..) to become the main team leader, and not re-sign here to continually play 2nd fiddle to Luka.
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The addition of Dinwiddie, Brunson taking his game to the next level, and Green's development make THJ very expendable.

I'm still holding my breath on re-signing Brunson though.
Even though him and Luka are buddies, his recent play and potential contract situation make me wonder if he'll want to go elsewhere (NY, Detroit, Indy, etc..) to become the main team leader, and not re-sign here to continually play 2nd fiddle to Luka.
If Brunson leaves, it'll be because of money, not because his ego won't let him play 2nd fiddle to one of the top 5 players in the league.

I'll just come right out and say that I think Brunson is playing WAY over his head right now. He's playing like a superstar against a piss poor perimeter defense that has zero answer for him. Basically he's 2003 Nick Van Exel against the Kings.

But he is a just quality starting guard. I don't expect him to ever be an all-star. And considering his path to this point in his career- drafted in the 2nd round, just been a role player until his mini-breakout this year- I don't think he all of a sudden is going to chafe at being 2nd fiddle to a megastar like Luka- whom as you mentioned, he seems to be buddies with.

All that being said, the Mavs absolutely, 100% need to do everything they can to keep Brunson. Even though you'll probably have to overpay, the worst thing you can do is let him walk and get nothing back. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players for nothing? History has shown us that that is ALWAYS a terrible move.
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If Brunson leaves, it'll be because of money, not because his ego won't let him play 2nd fiddle to one of the top 5 players in the league.

I'll just come right out and say that I think Brunson is playing WAY over his head right now. He's playing like a superstar against a piss poor perimeter defense that has zero answer for him. Basically he's 2003 Nick Van Exel against the Kings.

But he is a just quality starting guard. I don't expect him to ever be an all-star. And considering his path to this point in his career- drafted in the 2nd round, just been a role player until his mini-breakout this year- I don't think he all of a sudden is going to chafe at being 2nd fiddle to a megastar like Luka- whom as you mentioned, he seems to be buddies with.

All that being said, the Mavs absolutely, 100% need to do everything they can to keep Brunson. Even though you'll probably have to overpay, the worst thing you can do is let him walk and get nothing back. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players for nothing? History has shown us that that is ALWAYS a terrible move.
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If Brunson leaves, it'll be because of money, not because his ego won't let him play 2nd fiddle to one of the top 5 players in the league.

I'll just come right out and say that I think Brunson is playing WAY over his head right now. He's playing like a superstar against a piss poor perimeter defense that has zero answer for him. Basically he's 2003 Nick Van Exel against the Kings.

But he is a just quality starting guard. I don't expect him to ever be an all-star. And considering his path to this point in his career- drafted in the 2nd round, just been a role player until his mini-breakout this year- I don't think he all of a sudden is going to chafe at being 2nd fiddle to a megastar like Luka- whom as you mentioned, he seems to be buddies with.

All that being said, the Mavs absolutely, 100% need to do everything they can to keep Brunson. Even though you'll probably have to overpay, the worst thing you can do is let him walk and get nothing back. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players for nothing? History has shown us that that is ALWAYS a terrible move.
I enjoy a hot take. I agree with most of what you're saying...except JB playing way over his head. It IS against a lackluster perimeter team, but there's a beast waiting in the paint. The best shot blocker in the game that he's had to navigate. He may fall back to earth a bit at some point in the playoffs, but the ground isn't very far. He's been trending up and the real test that we were all eager to see was always the playoffs. He's passed with flying colors and picked up his level of play even more so when we needed him most. Stepping in for Luka is a massive ask...and he's carried the team in crucial moments.

We definitely can't let him slip away. The only way he leaves because of money is if some team see him as a super-star and will go beyond 25m. I could be qrong but I think 25m is the new bar that the Mavs are willing to chase him to.
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If Brunson leaves, it'll be because of money, not because his ego won't let him play 2nd fiddle to one of the top 5 players in the league.

I'll just come right out and say that I think Brunson is playing WAY over his head right now. He's playing like a superstar against a piss poor perimeter defense that has zero answer for him. Basically he's 2003 Nick Van Exel against the Kings.

But he is a just quality starting guard. I don't expect him to ever be an all-star. And considering his path to this point in his career- drafted in the 2nd round, just been a role player until his mini-breakout this year- I don't think he all of a sudden is going to chafe at being 2nd fiddle to a megastar like Luka- whom as you mentioned, he seems to be buddies with.

All that being said, the Mavs absolutely, 100% need to do everything they can to keep Brunson. Even though you'll probably have to overpay, the worst thing you can do is let him walk and get nothing back. You can always move a bad contract if you need to, but losing one of your best players for nothing? History has shown us that that is ALWAYS a terrible move.
Agree, I don’t necessarily think Brunson will ever be an all-star, but timing is everything and he is showcasing himself well at the right time to boost interest from several teams. You’re right, money will be a factor but I can’t help but think ego will play a big part as well because in his mind I’m sure he thinks he is capable of being an all-star.

Having an opportunity to be the primary floor general would certainly be motivation for a 24 yo PG who performed at that level in critical games during Luka’s absences. I don’t think he stays just to play with Luka.

In other words, I don’t think simply matching an offer will cut it. I’m afraid we’ll have to over, overpay to keep him. I could be wrong but we’ll see.
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I enjoy a hot take. I agree with most of what you're saying...except JB playing way over his head. It IS against a lackluster perimeter team, but there's a beast waiting in the paint. The best shot blocker in the game that he's had to navigate. He may fall back to earth a bit at some point in the playoffs, but the ground isn't very far. He's been trending up and the real test that we were all eager to see was always the playoffs. He's passed with flying colors and picked up his level of play even more so when we needed him most. Stepping in for Luka is a massive ask...and he's carried the team in crucial moments.

We definitely can't let him slip away. The only way he leaves because of money is if some team see him as a super-star and will go beyond 25m. I could be qrong but I think 25m is the new bar that the Mavs are willing to chase him to.
His asking price will be high no doubt but I still think there is the factor of playing in Luka's shadows. The fact he is capable of playing at an all-star level without Luka in crucial games makes it even more concerning to me that he could sign elsewhere.

Brunson is certainly on the fringes of being an all-star and his chances will be even greater playing on a Lukaless team as a primary leader...especially somewhere like NY.

Again, I don't think merely matching an offer will necessarily cut it. I think we'll have to beat any offer.
NY seems to have had an interest in Brunson for a while now and I can see them making a premium offer, one that I'm not sure Cuban will attempt to beat.
This could become another Nash situation.

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His asking price will be high no doubt but I still think there is the factor of playing in Luka's shadows. The fact he is capable of playing at an all-star level without Luka in crucial games makes it even more concerning to me that he could sign elsewhere.

Brunson is certainly on the fringes of being an all-star and his chances will be even greater playing on a Lukaless team as a primary leader...especially somewhere like NY.

Again, I don't think merely matching an offer will necessarily cut it. I think we'll have to beat any offer.
NY seems to have had an interest in Brunson for a while now and I can see them making a premium offer, one that I'm not sure Cuban will attempt to beat.
This could become another Nash situation.
He holds the cards ultimately. If he wants to go to NY he can, though thst franchise is a nightmare.That would likely be a big mistake.

You could also say that Cuban obviouslyknows letting Nash peace out was a lesson learned.

I'm thinking 20m was the magic number f he never played a playoff game this season. Now it's more like 25m.
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It's understandable to be upset, but lots of reasons to be optimistic.
1) It's now a best of three
2) We still have HCA
3) We won in Utah
4) We have Luka back and he looked pretty good until they made their adjustments in the 4th and Kidd can make adjustments now that he knows what they are running
5) Both losses we nearly won. Game 1 we got it to 1pt and they made a freak three. This game they had to get ref help on the and-one, two missed FTs, and a freak oop just to win and we even almost stole it back with the last possession.
6) We have Luka
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It's understandable to be upset, but lots of reasons to be optimistic.
1) It's now a best of three
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3) We won in Utah
4) We have Luka back and he looked pretty good until they made their adjustments in the 4th and Kidd can make adjustments now that he knows what they are running
5) Both losses we nearly won. Game 1 we got it to 1pt and they made a freak three. This game they had to get ref help on the and-one, two missed FTs, and a freak oop just to win and we even almost stole it back with the last possession.
6) We have Luka
That wasn't a freak oop.. I believe DFS botched the easy switch.

I think the and 1 foul called on LUKA was legit.
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And there is almost no point to doing this. Like, the league will do everything with the refs except for actually improve them. Why map out how bad they are without doing anything about it?
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Well damn that hurts to see. These reports are worthless if nothing is done about it. It’s good to see they review plays/games to recognize mistakes to get better, but that’s doesn’t help much when it factored into the final score the way that play did.
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