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Old 05-10-2022, 11:03 PM   #161
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I think spencer is about to lose his minutes to Frank the rest of this series
With the way SD is playing that’s not a bad thing.
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Im not saying he had a good game by any means. I’m saying if he’s going to have a bad game it might as well be the same game everyone else is sucking ass. Just throw away the tape from tonight and get ready for Thursday.
Agreed. Just scares me now if Bullock can’t play game 6. He was key in game 3 and 4. They need his defense and him to hit shots to have a chance.
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Another overlooked stat, this team has 7 assists ALL game. Has to be a season low by far.
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Another overlooked stat, this team has 7 assists ALL game. Has to be a season low by far.
Kidd depends on Luka for movement

When Luka doesn’t move, we have no movement

When Suns stay out on shooters, they let Luka do it all and Ayton has done a decent enough job making it all Luka
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Reggie is available to return. Doubt he does, but should be good to go next game.
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I don’t know why they don’t just feed Ayton down low every possession.
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Clear the bench. Put in Bobi
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Another overlooked stat, this team has 7 assists ALL game. Has to be a season low by far.
It's not from a lack of assist attempts. They literally couldn't hit any open shots after the 1st quarter. Remember Luka hitting Bullock and DFS a couple of times for wide open 3s. THose were quality assist attempts.
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Kidd depends on Luka for movement

When Luka doesn’t move, we have no movement

When Suns stay out on shooters, they let Luka do it all and Ayton has done a decent enough job making it all Luka
This team just doesn't have enough talent against the best teams. We could use the offense of a Desmond Bane or Saddiq Bey, or Tyrese Maxey or any other player that went after Josh Green that had discernible basketball skills. I still think the failure of 2019 offseason where we wasted cap space and the failure to land a player at 17th in the 20 draft when a half dozen very good players went after JG will be the eventual undoing of the Luka era hitting its potential. Maybe Nico et al can pull off a miracle but those were wasted team building years.
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2 ast and 4 TO ain’t gonna get it done from the all star point guard

People marvel at the rebounds and point totals but Luka is our point guard. Having those kinds of assist and TO numbers are a huge disappointment
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Fuck these classless fools finning up the score

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Pretty sad that the Suns 3rd string center is better than our starting center
Pretty sad that we should have known we had a generational talent by Jan 2019 but fucked up the 2019 offseason and picked what will soon be a G league then out of the league player by his 5th season with the 17th pick in 2020 draft. Other than that our team building has been stellar.
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2 ast and 4 TO ain’t gonna get it done from the all star point guard

People marvel at the rebounds and point totals but Luka is our point guard. Having those kinds of assist and TO numbers are a huge disappointment
Dude you realize had all those wide open shots you saw Bullock and DFS miss on Luka assist attempts he would have more, correct? I think we basketball fans aren't always good at mathematical inferences.
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Just gotta win Thursday and see what happens

Hell, if Luka sucks Thursday at least it’ll be the last time we see him this year
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Dude you realize had all those wide open shots you saw Bullock and DFS miss on Luka assist attempts he would have more, correct? I think we basketball fans aren't always good at mathematical inferences.
Wow insulting and condescending

Luka is supposed to make guys better. He got thoroughly outplayed this game.

You can blame guys for not making shots but Luka didn’t make his players better. That stat line is ass for a supposed hall of fame PG
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So if Dallas can repeat game 3 and 4 and pull out game 6, how can they even be expected to show up in game 7? They are a mess here in Phoenix and just fall apart completely.
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Wow insulting and condescending

Luka is supposed to make guys better. He got thoroughly outplayed this game.

You can blame guys for not making shots but Luka didn’t make his players better. That stat line is ass for a supposed hall of fame PG
Yes Luka didn't play well but there is a multivariate aspect to a team sport. He isn't always responsible if others play bad or good for that matter. There is some degree of freedom to the random variation of his teammates performance in any given game. This wasn't meant to be condescending but he literally can't force his guys to make wide open 3's. Let's say Bullock has one of those 2 sigma variation games where he hits all his open 3's and DFS hits 50 percent of his then we are in the game even with a suboptimal Luka performance. What Luka needs to do is stop bailing out the Suns by taking the step back. That is the worst offensive set that we have. That is on him.
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Who can win in the other teams arena? That's what Mavs are forced to do now. The good thing is we are resilient and don't stay down long.

Maxi, SD and DFS sucked ass and so did Bullock. He missed a lot of wide open 3s and then just stopped shooting.

The spacing wasn't good and the Suns did a great job of hedging over to make any lanes smaller. When they can force our 'others' to drive, there's a good chance we cough it up or have a failed possession.

Felt like Luka wasn't on the block at all. Not sure why we didn't have that as a priority. He kills dudes with his back to rhe basket.

Maxi pulled his compounding issue bullshit again. When things aren't going well, and he's missing shots, his spacing gets bad ans he looks lost. He had to be directed several times to clear the fk out. He's close enough to keep the opposing center within reach as Luka is trying to back down or iso his man.
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Yes Luka didn't play well but there is a multivariate aspect to a team sport. He isn't always responsible if others play bad or good for that matter. There is some degree of freedom to the random variation of his teammates performance in any given game. This wasn't meant to be condescending but he literally can't force his guys to make wide open 3's. Let's say Bullock has one of those 2 sigma variation games where he hits all his open 3's and DFS hits 50 percent of his then we are in the game even with a suboptimal Luka performance. What Luka needs to do is stop bailing out the Suns by taking the step back. That is the worst offensive set that we have. That is on him.
DFS took like 6 shots

Bullock took like 5 shots

That tells me the Mavs and Luka went back to that ISO//stand around and watch Luka crap
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Sorry team, I let us down tonight. I helped get us 2 games but it wasn't enough. I own this loss.

Do we vote on who does next game day thread? Or is someone feeling specifically lucky?
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Another overlooked stat, this team has 7 assists ALL game. Has to be a season low by far.
too much dribble dribble dribble and that took other guys out of the game right from the start

The TNT crew highlighted that by halftime
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With the way SD is playing that’s not a bad thing.
this dude has to be the most disappointing player of these playoffs.

I would say Powell but dude can only do one thing catch lobs

Spencer was supposed to be that extra ball handler and attacker that the team lacked.
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DFS took like 6 shots

Bullock took like 5 shots

That tells me the Mavs and Luka went back to that ISO//stand around and watch Luka crap
Yes that happened about 7 times with Luka holding the ball the entire clock and launching the step back. Not his best performance. Not sure why we don't post him up more.
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I said this earlier but shout out to Monty Williams for benching two of his rotation players at this time of the series

Kidd really needs to consider doing the same thing with Powell and Dinwiddie

Frank seems to be more under control than Dinwiddie on both ends of the floor and Chriss can't possibly do any worse than Powell in those 10-12 minutes
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I said this earlier but shout out to Monty Williams for benching two of his rotation players at this time of the series

Kidd really needs to consider doing the same thing with Powell and Dinwiddie

Frank seems to be more under control than Dinwiddie on both ends of the floor and Chriss can't possibly do any worse than Powell in those 10-12 minutes
I just don't see the path forward after this season. We don't get a do-over on our 2020 pick. I guess we resign Brunson to keep the asset and then potentially trade him for a team that has a plethora of stellar 3-D type wings. Come on Nico do your thing..
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People shitting on Luka around here are hilariously misguided. Imagine this team without him for 2 seconds before posting a bunch of nonsense.
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I understand those who say we’d be completely dogsh*t without Luka. But he has not figured out the Suns defense. Their length and the crowded paint is definitely bothering him. When the role players are hitting threes, no biggie. When they’re not, yikes.

For all the talk about how we’re much improved under Kidd, we haven’t diversified our offense much. We’re still a team that lives and dies by the three. Get Luka a legit PNR partner (Capela?).
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I understand those who say we’d be completely dogsh*t without Luka. But he has not figured out the Suns defense. Their length and the crowded paint is definitely bothering him. When the role players are hitting threes, no biggie. When they’re not, yikes.

For all the talk about how we’re much improved under Kidd, we haven’t diversified our offense much. We’re still a team that lives and dies by the three. Get Luka a legit PNR partner (Capela?).
But we won games 3 and 4 convincingly. This is all just wow we're great when we win and wow we're terrible when we lose playoff reaction.

And yes, this entire team is made up of role players who need to make threes. Why be surprised though when we lose if those threes don't fall? There are no surprises here.
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It's hard to score or play defense when you only have 4 guys on the floor at all times

That is essentially what the Mavs have become for every minute that Powell has been on the floor these entire post season games.

Then when you factor in Dinwiddie's play vs the Suns that makes matters even worse.

I hate to be that guy but Boban could easily get you a few buckets and rebounds in 8-10 minutes per game and his defense can't b any worse than Powell's defense.

Hell you could essentially have Josh Green playing small ball center and wouldn't do any worse than Powell at this point. But your center would be able to dribble and pass (green) as opposed to the other center being limited in every aspect of the game beyond setting a few picks.

How a guy can make 11 million a year and not have any skills helpful for the team is mind boggling. But he's a locker room leader so I guess that justifies the contract
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Old 05-11-2022, 11:03 AM   #192
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The energy we saw in games 3 and 4 was just not there in game 5. Oh, we saw glimpses of it here and there, but it was not sustained like in the previous two games. On the surface, it is difficult to imagine why that would be the case. it's a game 5..win and you can end the series on your home court.....the confidence of your opponent might be a bit shaky...all reasons to seize the day and put your team in the driver's seat. So what was it? Fatigue? Suns home court? An off-day shooting decreases motivation and focus? Seemed like the defense was pretty good in the first half but when they started shooting bricks at the beginning and throughout the third quarter their defensive intensity waned. We often say defense energizes offense, but perhaps with the Mavs it goes both ways.

Since the KP trade, the Mavs have consistently bounced back with a victory after an awful game. I am optimistic they win game 6 at home.
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It's hard to score or play defense when you only have 4 guys on the floor at all times

That is essentially what the Mavs have become for every minute that Powell has been on the floor these entire post season games.

Then when you factor in Dinwiddie's play vs the Suns that makes matters even worse.

I hate to be that guy but Boban could easily get you a few buckets and rebounds in 8-10 minutes per game and his defense can't b any worse than Powell's defense.

Hell you could essentially have Josh Green playing small ball center and wouldn't do any worse than Powell at this point. But your center would be able to dribble and pass (green) as opposed to the other center being limited in every aspect of the game beyond setting a few picks.

How a guy can make 11 million a year and not have any skills helpful for the team is mind boggling. But he's a locker room leader so I guess that justifies the contract
Powell getting the honorary starts over Maxi despite the knowledge Maxi is better suited in this series (check game minutes), has been frustrating to say the least. I get the idea for Boban, but the Suns are smart and good enough to turn up the dial and run for days which would put Boban and the Mavs in a bad spot on both ends. Fast breaks and pushing for the Suns and half court sets for the Mavs which feeds into one of the best defenses in the NBA. I'll throw Chriss in there but I have a feeling he gets suspended for running up the tunnel after Biyombo.

As for Dinwiddie, man...I'm not making any excuses for the guy, but he seems to be running on dead legs. Can't forget he's not too far removed from ACL recovery and this is the most he's played in years (bubble + injury). I can't say I expect much from him this series as the Suns length is effecting him eerily similar to Brunson in the Clippers series last year. I fully expect Dinwiddie to be in the most-improved player discussion next year as he gets his legs fully under him. All that to say it's disappointing we can't get more from him in these playoffs, but I understand the struggle.

For that, I'd like to see Frank and Green a little more. Their defense, length, and hustle would seemingly bode well against the Suns offensive game plan, not to mention a rebounding boost. They have to knock down a shot or two to not be a lost part on offense, but not impossible. Certainly don't want both on the floor together.

Edit: oh, and also, I still stand by my remarks that THJ would be a net positive in this series and playoffs for this Mavs team as currently constructed. I strongly believe most here dislike him because of the contract, but I can't factor that in when thinking of actual contribution on the court. It is what it is on that end. People can certainly argue his inconsistency and they would have a point. Still think his game would play well in this series.

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I think another overlooked fact is that the Mavs as a team are really not great 3-pt shooters. Yes, they hit their 3's in games 3 and 4, but they are about as reliable as THJ. They may shoot well 2 out of 7 games, and that's just not good enough to win a 7 game series if your offense is predicated on the 3-ball. I don't expect to see the team shoot 3's like that again. Last night was just a reversion back to the mean for them.

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It's hard to score or play defense when you only have 4 guys on the floor at all times

That is essentially what the Mavs have become for every minute that Powell has been on the floor these entire post season games.

Then when you factor in Dinwiddie's play vs the Suns that makes matters even worse.

I hate to be that guy but Boban could easily get you a few buckets and rebounds in 8-10 minutes per game and his defense can't b any worse than Powell's defense.

Hell you could essentially have Josh Green playing small ball center and wouldn't do any worse than Powell at this point. But your center would be able to dribble and pass (green) as opposed to the other center being limited in every aspect of the game beyond setting a few picks.

How a guy can make 11 million a year and not have any skills helpful for the team is mind boggling. But he's a locker room leader so I guess that justifies the contract
I get what you're saying. I used to bang the drum for Boban minutes all the time last year. People act like crying for Boban to play over Powell means starting him and playing him 32+ minutes per game. LOL

7'4" is a deterrent in the lane. You can't teach size. The mavs could easily play 6-10 minutes of zone throughout the game to throw a different look at the Suns. Anybody who watched Powell in the 3rd quarter last night and doesn't think that Boban could deliver more is smoking some very good crack. heh

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People shitting on Luka around here are hilariously misguided. Imagine this team without him for 2 seconds before posting a bunch of nonsense.
Hes shooting 39% and 16% from 3 the last two games. Its okay to criticize him, especially when he hasnt figured out that he doesnt need to do it all, that will rarely result in a playoff win. 3/18 from 3.

That doesnt mean the others cant be criticized at the same time. But they arent superstars.
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The energy we saw in games 3 and 4 was just not there in game 5. Oh, we saw glimpses of it here and there, but it was not sustained like in the previous two games. On the surface, it is difficult to imagine why that would be the case. it's a game 5..win and you can end the series on your home court.....the confidence of your opponent might be a bit shaky...all reasons to seize the day and put your team in the driver's seat. So what was it? Fatigue? Suns home court? An off-day shooting decreases motivation and focus? Seemed like the defense was pretty good in the first half but when they started shooting bricks at the beginning and throughout the third quarter their defensive intensity waned. We often say defense energizes offense, but perhaps with the Mavs it goes both ways.

Since the KP trade, the Mavs have consistently bounced back with a victory after an awful game. I am optimistic they win game 6 at home.
Its tough to win on the road in the playoffs. Especially against the best team in the league. Simple as that. The "others" arent going to be draining 3s at a wild clip on the road like they have been at home.
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We need to post Luka up and initiate offense through Brunson more. We also have to be aggressive off the bounce instead of settling for three point looks. Luka needs to get the ball out his hands faster when he's initiating. Swing the ball early and often. We also need more off-ball movement. If the Suns are going to key on Luka there are backdoor cuts to be had. It's just difficult when Powell is poo-poo and Kleber is a 3&D big. I am on board with giving Boban spot minutes to change things up.
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Hes shooting 39% and 16% from 3 the last two games. Its okay to criticize him, especially when he hasnt figured out that he doesnt need to do it all, that will rarely result in a playoff win. 3/18 from 3.

That doesnt mean the others cant be criticized at the same time. But they arent superstars.
The guy is playing through a calf injury and Reggie a rib injury while playing ridiculous minutes with little rest. Luka looked completely gassed even in game 4. If you want to argue his conditioning, fine, but otherwise, he is playing hobbled.

And Kidd is reaching Mike D'Antoni territory with the minutes crunch. Gotta find a way to give them a few minutes rest.
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We need to post Luka up and initiate offense through Brunson more. We also have to be aggressive off the bounce instead of settling for three point looks. Luka needs to get the ball out his hands faster when he's initiating. Swing the ball early and often. We also need more off-ball movement. If the Suns are going to key on Luka there are backdoor cuts to be had. It's just difficult when Powell is poo-poo and Kleber is a 3&D big. I am on board with giving Boban spot minutes to change things up.
100% agree with this take

Me & SMC have been calling for more luka post up's in the mid post or low post. That is where Luka can do the most damage to the Suns smaller defenders.

He's not quick enough to beat them off the dribble consistently which is why their big's can stay in front of him more often they can with Brunson.

Let Bruson be your attacker off the dribble hunting for the matchups vs Ayton, McGee and Biyombo they can't keep up with Brunson like they can with Luka.

Luka is a terrific post player and he can find open shooters out of the post up sets.

The Mavs may try to run those sets a few times per game and then go completely away despite the results showing Luka being very effective in the restrictive area.

He wears himself because he spends way too much time pounding the rock and trying to go ISO vs every Suns defender.

Someone thinks it's his calf injury I disagree with that notion. I believe Luka is spending far too much energy trying to the carry the offense when he doesn't really need to especially early in games.

Much like Booker in 1st Qtr's the Mavs need to let Brunson eat and strategically use Luka to save his legs early. Think about how Avery Johnson used to let Josh Howard go off on teams for 2-3 Qtr's and then Dirk dominated the touches and usage in the 4th Qtr's.

When guys like DFS and Bullock are only getting up 5-6 shots in 40 minutes of play that is on Luka IMO.

Let those guys get into a rythm and they can't do that by standing around and watching Luka dribble, dribble, dribble and launch a step back 3 with 3 seconds left on the shot clock.

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