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MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Townsend thinks we're getting some sweetener and not just defensive expert in Jones.

It would be hard to be a defensive star when you only played less than 20 minutes a game and only 60 total games

He's DFS without a jump shot at best

Bryan_Wilson · 06-30-2019, 10:06 PM

Maybe it stalled when we asked for the 2006 trophy to be included.

Dtownsfinest · 06-30-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs just need to back out of this trade if they can't win it. You could sign someone like Marcus Morris who is better than Olynyk and probably for cheaper.

HE's exactly what this team needs to. Really was hoping he'd come here.

Five-ofan · 06-30-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Townsend thinks we're getting some sweetener and not just defensive expert in Jones.

It has to be two firsts for the deal to make any sense

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Seriously. There were guys going to Utah, New Orleans, Orlando, Sacramento, even fuckin Phoenix today. This excuse doesn't fly anymore.

Phoenix is a destination? They paid Ricky Rubio 3 years 51MILLION DOLLARS to go there.

Dallas COULD get a free agent. All it would cost them is massively overpaying.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

It has to be two firsts for the deal to make any sense

Okay? That is far from the going rate to dump 23million in contract, but sure. If that's what it would take to make you happy.

I just think you'll be disappointed.

I'm thinking 2-3 second rounders or MAYBE one distant first.

Underdog · 06-30-2019, 10:08 PM

@townbrad: Attempting to get clarification of missing piece in Miami-Dallas-Philly trade. Those issues apparently being worked through as we speak because the only explanation I got is Miami and other teams see Dallas as a "dump team. Everyone is looking to send us salary."

Dtownsfinest · 06-30-2019, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

This is going to be a curse filled rant so skip it if you want...

But if we didn't like dragic and couldn't do something else then why in the actual fuck did we not pull out of the deal. We're not beholden to the god damn heat. We have no need to help them. If anything fuck the heat, I'd be more tempted to screw them than help them if it's mavs neutral. Fuck this trade. All of this is contingent on the trade being as advertised.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm tired of this crap. I can understand it when we don't have salary cap space......but we can't sign anyone even with cap space?

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Seriously. There were guys going to Utah, New Orleans, Orlando, Sacramento, even fuckin Phoenix today. This excuse doesn't fly anymore.

Exactly. That' literally every single team in the league. So am I suppose to believe Dallas is this horrible organization and horrible place to live? I'm not buying it.

NeedlesKane · 06-30-2019, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

What makes you think we don't like Porzingis because we're using our cap to get sweeteners by taking bad salaries?

Seems like a win-win to me. We get a decent backup for the PF/C spot to reduce minutes for KP while also getting a pick or two for unloading a bad salary from another team.

Of course, those sweeteners havent been announced yet.

Confused by your post. I never said we didn't like Porzingis.

Dtownsfinest · 06-30-2019, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@townbrad: Attempting to get clarification of missing piece in Miami-Dallas-Philly trade. Those issues apparently being worked through as we speak because the only explanation I got is Miami and other teams see Dallas as a "dump team. Everyone is looking to send us salary."

So you let teams dump guys on you they don't want and you don't even get a 1st rounder or anything in return? Smh.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2019, 10:10 PM

Even Fish gets it...

mike fisher ✭@fishsports
There is no purpose in facilitating a trade to get Kelly O and D Jones

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

It would be hard to be a defensive star when you only played less than 20 minutes a game and only 60 total games

He's DFS without a jump shot at best

Jones played 19mpg. DFS played 24.5
Jones shot 31% from three. DFS shot 31% from three

It's hard to take that seriously when you say he's DFS without a jump shot.

Underdog · 06-30-2019, 10:10 PM

@BlakeWeird: This offseason started with goals of getting Kemba Walker.
Within five hours of free agency the Mavs are referring to themselves as a “Dump Team”.
If that’s not confidence inspiring, I don’t know what is!

MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@townbrad: Attempting to get clarification of missing piece in Miami-Dallas-Philly trade. Those issues apparently being worked through as we speak because the only explanation I got is Miami and other teams see Dallas as a "dump team. Everyone is looking to send us salary."

I think this is why most fans are upset. We should get more than a poo poo platter to help the Heat get one of the best players in the NBA right now.

Right now this is a bad trade for us. Maybe it will change with the sweeteners but right now it stinks.

Dtownsfinest · 06-30-2019, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Phoenix is a destination? They paid Ricky Rubio 3 years 51MILLION DOLLARS to go there.

Dallas COULD get a free agent. All it would cost them is massively overpaying.

So what is the plan then?In order to sign free agents you have to overpay. If the Mavs are waiting for bargains they will be waiting for eternity. I watched Dirk's last prime years get wasted on this crap I'm not interested in going through this again. This is silly at this point. We are at least owed what type of approach to free agency these guys are taking. They are honest and open about everything until it comes to building the team.

Dtownsfinest · 06-30-2019, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@BlakeWeird: This offseason started with goals of getting Kemba Walker.
Within five hours of free agency the Mavs are referring to themselves as a “Dump Team”.
If that’s not confidence inspiring, I don’t know what is!

I feel bad not wanting Malcolm Brogdon now. Had I known we were going to be the "dump team" I would've BEGGED For Brogdon.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:13 PM

Jones not only shot about the same from three as DFS (31% each)

Jones had the superior defensive rating.

Five-ofan · 06-30-2019, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Okay? That is far from the going rate to dump 23million in contract, but sure. If that's what it would take to make you happy.

I just think you'll be disappointed.

I'm thinking 2-3 second rounders or MAYBE one distant first.

Then we are stupid.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:14 PM

Townsend "I would be surprised at this point if it goes through"

Skywalker · 06-30-2019, 10:15 PM

Please pull out of this deal. Please

MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Jones played 19mpg. DFS played 24.5
Jones shot 31% from three. DFS shot 31% from three

It's hard to take that seriously when you say he's DFS without a jump shot.

Its hard to take it seriously when you are hyping a dump player

He's played 112 games in 3 seasons. DFS has played 183

Jones has never averaged 20 minutes per game, DFS has never NOT averaged 20 minutes per game.

In his 3rd season, Jones finally his 31% from 3, DFS has basically hit 30% all three seasons

Five-ofan · 06-30-2019, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Townsend "I would be surprised at this point if it goes through"

God I hope so

endtroducing MASKED · 06-30-2019, 10:15 PM

What a saga. lmao. the night we almost traded for Kelly Olynyk

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I feel bad not wanting Malcolm Brogdon now. Had I known we were going to be the "dump team" I would've BEGGED For Brogdon.

Are you aware that he not only got 4 years/85 million for a guy that has questionable health

He also cost a first rounder and two second rounders?

Dude got a huge contract AND cost three picks

MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:16 PM

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There is a “glitch” in the Butler-Richardson trade according to sources, as the Heat do not want to give up Derrick Jones and Dallas is telling people the deal is off. Expectation is that the deal is too far down the road to fall apart and will get ironed out.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-30-2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

What a saga. lmao. the night we almost traded for Kelly Olynyk

Need a T shirt.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Its hard to take it seriously when you are hyping a dump player

He's played 112 games in 3 seasons. DFS has played 183

Jones has never averaged 20 minutes per game, DFS has never NOT averaged 20 minutes per game.

In his 3rd season, Jones finally his 31% from 3, DFS has basically hit 30% all three seasons

Jones is a minimum deal guy. He's not a dump player.

But yeah, Jones has played a few fewer games. Good job pulling those elite stats.

Olynyk being a backup earning 11.7mill this year and 12.2 mill is the salary dump.

Jones literally doesn't hurt your cap because he's earning a minimum deal.

SMC0007 · 06-30-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Maybe it stalled when we asked for the 2006 trophy to be included.

Solid point.

Five-ofan · 06-30-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Are you aware that he not only got 4 years/85 million for a guy that has questionable health

He also cost a first rounder and two second rounders?

Dude got a huge contract AND cost three picks

Brogdon at 4/85 in insanely more attractive than some of these other deals.

MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

Tim Cato
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i've also been told the deal is believed to be dead

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

Dallas says that the deal is off.

Tim Cato reporting.

Skywalker · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Jared Weiss
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@JaredWeissNBA

There is a “glitch” in the Butler-Richardson trade according to sources, as the Heat do not want to give up Derrick Jones and Dallas is telling people the deal is off. Expectation is that the deal is too far down the road to fall apart and will get ironed out.

Lol so Derrick jones is where we draw the line. Comical if it wasn't tragic

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

Lol it's the Heat that doesn't want to give up Jones? Like, we're enabling you to get Butler for Kelly Olynk and Jones, but that's too much for you? This is bad comedy if any of it is actually true...

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Brogdon at 4/85 in insanely more attractive than some of these other deals.

4/85 AND three picks.

turin · 06-30-2019, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I feel bad not wanting Malcolm Brogdon now. Had I known we were going to be the "dump team" I would've BEGGED For Brogdon.

Agree. I'm a bit down being a Dallas Dumpster fan atm. :-(

FreshJive · 06-30-2019, 10:19 PM

They should have just signed Vuc

endtroducing MASKED · 06-30-2019, 10:19 PM

Incredible night for Derrick Jones though

sefant77 · 06-30-2019, 10:19 PM

Fun fact: Olynyk is the guy Boston took at #13 when Cuban went full retard and made Donnie trade down

MFFL · 06-30-2019, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Lol so Derrick jones is where we draw the line. Comical if it wasn't tragic

We are so bad at free agency sometimes

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2019, 10:21 PM

Mavs fans pissing all over two different trades that weren't even happening.

Mavs still have the cap space for a full young max player.

Still some decent talent out there, just not any max guys.

I just hope we don't overpay.