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Old 09-02-2007, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default The Man Behind The De Palma Smear: Mark Cuban Declares War On The Troops

This just got linked on Drudge, so I figure it might as well be posted here...


Cuban Declares War On The Troops
September 2nd, 2007 Posted By Pat Dollard.

Mark Cuban

Billionaire Mark Cuban has decided to put all of his weight behind a campaign to smear US troops in Iraq as “monsters’. Cuban has decided that De Palma’s film “Redacted” must be seen as the cornerstone of his and De Palma’s self-declared anti-victory campaign against America and her troops fighing in Iraq. Cuban’s company Magnolia Pictures will be bringing this propganda campaign to a theater near you this winter. According to a source close to Cuban, the decision for Magnolia to develop, finance and distribute the film was personally made by Çuban. Cuban has a full producer credit on the film, and DePalma shot it on HiDef video at Cuban’s request, in order for it to qualify as fodder for Cuban’s hi-def cable channel. So far neither he or DePalma have explained how they can be “bringing the truth of the Iraq war to the American people”, as Louie DePalma has said, when neither of them have ever been to Iraq, filmed any of “Redacted” in Iraq, or spent one minute with any soldier in Iraq. Clearly they are only bringing you their imagined propagandists’ reality of Iraq. Both had the opportunity to go, both declined. They have chosen the coward’s path in a quest for legitimacy as spokesmen for the Iraq war, and as such both have failed in that quest. Indeed, they are left standing as laughingstocks. Their reach has exceeded their grasp. Cuban is a jet-set, armchair “Iraq Truther” who made sure not to have his private jet stop anywhere near Iraq. But he and DePalma are more than anxious to bring you the “reality of the Iraq war”. LMFAO.

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DePalma chilling in five star luxury while debuting his film to Europeans, nowhere near Iraq

( In case you haven’t heard of him, billionaire Cuban owns the Dallas Mavericks and supports the campaign against Global Warming by travelling in his private Gulf Stream V jet. He also decided to distribute the 9-11 paranoid conspiracy “Truther” film, “Loose Change”.)

DePalma said that going in it was his intention to make a film that would nauseate the American people, and thereby lead to a US withdrawal from Iraq. Well the only way for him to pull that off is if his film makes the case that the anomolous rape it fictionalizes is not actually an anomoly, but a “typical” snapshot of the US military’s behavior. In short, he would have to make his “troops-as-monsters” conceit appear to be typical of the troops, not atypical. This reveals a desire to create something that is nothing short of a willful and intentional smear built upon a lie. It also means that he decided not to look at Iraq for what it was, but to find something - anything - in it that would allow him to advance his propaganda campaign. Well Louie DePalma gave the game away when he confessed his excitement at his initial discovery of the rape story: “I knew I had a story!”. Now if that doesn’t mean “A story to suit my propaganda interests!”, then what does it mean?

The best defense DePalma has been able to muster about the lack of direct military reality in his film is “I had plenty of real stuff to put in but I didn’t put it in, and can’t show it to you to prove it, because my lawyers won’t let me”. That kind of bullshit pr spin may fly in Hollywood, but it isn’t flying here on earth. If you’ve got the goods, Louie, show them. It would appear quite clear why you haven’t already.

None of the troops in Mr. DePalma’s film are real. They are as imaginary as he and Mr. Cuban’s balls.

Close to a year ago, Daily Kos ran a featured post declaring that it was time to attack the troops if the anti-victory movement was to succeed. Clearly DePalma and Cuban took the cue.

More to follow…

http://patdollard.com/2007/09/02/the...-in-harms-way/
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:52 PM   #2
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Good god...I'm starting to turn into the 'ape. I wrote cubes about the loose changed bullcrap and I don't know what happened with it.

Sooner or later, his video ties are going to effect the players on his basketball team.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:19 PM   #3
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Remember he did create a fund to help wounded troops, maybe he think he is a artist now and wants to support weirdos.

http://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:05 PM   #4
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Well there's actually quite a bit of stuff that cubes and the mavs do that I like. Here was a part of a note I sent cubes about the loosechange crap.

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Dude, those are all very cool things. And I can get a sense of just how much you appreciate them. In other words, they have obviously been very effective in your case, as well as, I'm sure, the case of many others.

You do start to wonder, though, how genuine it all is, coming from a huckster non-paralleled such as Mark Cuban. I guess it's kinda like wondering if Karl Rove is really a born-again Christian.
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Dude, those are all very cool things. And I can get a sense of just how much you appreciate them. In other words, they have obviously been very effective in your case, as well as, I'm sure, the case of many others.

You do start to wonder, though, how genuine it all is, coming from a huckster non-paralleled such as Mark Cuban. I guess it's kinda like wondering if Karl Rove is really a born-again Christian.
If you are cynical about it, yea, but in general I am not cynical about peoples motives.

I think cubes is a very good salesman and certainly thinks about customers. But I've never gotten the feeling nor is there any proof that I know of, of him using devious methods with his customers. When I have a problem, his staff is right there to fix it. If I email cubes about something, his folks have contacted me about it.

With respect to Karl Rove, if he says he is then that pretty much should be it, shouldnt' it. Seems that's pretty personal and a gratuitious smear, not backed up by much. Or I guess it could be like wondering if you are really a mavs fan the way you hate the owner and fawn over other teams.

If your definition of huckster is to sell shoddy goods, I don't agree with you. He's an aggressive salesman, but I see no evidence of deceit.
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I'm going to reserve judgment on Cuban based on support for this film until after I've seen it, or at least read a little more about it than just Pat Dollard's opinion.
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If you are cynical about it, yea, but in general I am not cynical about peoples motives.

I think cubes is a very good salesman and certainly thinks about customers. But I've never gotten the feeling nor is there any proof that I know of, of him using devious methods with his customers. When I have a problem, his staff is right there to fix it. If I email cubes about something, his folks have contacted me about it.

With respect to Karl Rove, if he says he is then that pretty much should be it, shouldnt' it. Seems that's pretty personal and a gratuitious smear, not backed up by much. Or I guess it could be like wondering if you are really a mavs fan the way you hate the owner and fawn over other teams.

If your definition of huckster is to sell shoddy goods, I don't agree with you. He's an aggressive salesman, but I see no evidence of deceit.
I'm just sayin', you should judge a man by his actions, not his words. And sometimes, you should keep one hand on your wallet, if you know what I mean.
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I'm just sayin', you should judge a man by his actions, not his words. And sometimes, you should keep one hand on your wallet, if you know what I mean.
I believe these are all actions that I highlighted.
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I don't know what to think any more.

It should be noted that this has nothing to do with basketball, oh by the way.
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Yikes--

Still--Mark has a history of supporting American troops--more so than all of the other NBA owners combined.

I read about the movie--from what I read, I doubt that I will watch it.

God I don'tknow what to think about this...
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Mark Cuban answers:
See his blog for the full entry.

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The movie is fully pro Troops. The hero of the movie is a soldier who stands
up for what is right in the face of adversity.
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And to pre empt some of the stupidity coming from bloggers, I am fully Pro
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And to anyone who has ever questioned my patriotism or love for this country, f&ck you.
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Well by jiggers, that's mark for ya'.

However Mark has to know that if DePalma is openly saying that it's an anti-troop film, it's going to be seen as that way.
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