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tap2390 · 07-31-2015, 10:14 AM

Felton's not a bad guy at all but I wish he would get the hell off our roster. I will not be happy if we keep him over Jenkins, Ndour, or Famous.

EricaLubarsky · 07-31-2015, 10:34 AM

Felton will stay and play a few minutes.

Then he'll be shopped as expiring ballast. We'll be right at the cap, so we can't absorb a lot of salary without shipping some salary away.

tap2390 · 07-31-2015, 10:52 AM

IMO expiring contracts just aren't worth what they used to be, especially with the impending cap raises. Felton played decent in limited minutes last year, and I've always thought he got way too much hate... But, if our plan is to get younger, more athletic, and start developing some home-grown talent we absolutely should not have a 31 year old 4th string PG on the decline. Let's start finding the Marquis Daniels of the NBA world again....

Once again IMO and not factoring locker room motives, etc.

MavzMan · 07-31-2015, 01:10 PM

I really did love watching Marquis and JHo play. I wish they could have kept a full career here in Dallas.

EricaLubarsky · 07-31-2015, 02:17 PM

Evans just officially inked his contract. 2 yr vet min. No options or frills.

Now the only two who have yet to sign officially are CV3 and Anderson

EricaLubarsky · 07-31-2015, 06:48 PM

Sarge is off to China. Looks like Famous and Mejri are fighting it out for third string center

NeedlesKane · 08-01-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Evans just officially inked his contract. 2 yr vet min. No options or frills.

Now the only two who have yet to sign officially are CV3 and Anderson

During the last hour Anderson signed as well.

Melonhead · 08-01-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Evans just officially inked his contract. 2 yr vet min. No options or frills.

Now the only two who have yet to sign officially are CV3 and Anderson

If CV3 falls through, I think Boozer is a need at that point. Nothing will ever feel certain anymore since the Jordan crap. CV3 is probably searching at other teams at the moment.

EricaLubarsky · 08-01-2015, 10:17 PM

18 now on the roster.

Only one we've heard of who hasn't signed is CV3. I like him a lot, but understand that sharpshooting is a coveted skill. Really hope he stays.

sefant77 · 08-01-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

IMO expiring contracts just aren't worth what they used to be, especially with the impending cap raises. Felton played decent in limited minutes last year, and I've always thought he got way too much hate... But, if our plan is to get younger, more athletic, and start developing some home-grown talent we absolutely should not have a 31 year old 4th string PG on the decline. Let's start finding the Marquis Daniels of the NBA world again....

Once again IMO and not factoring locker room motives, etc.

Its not about the value of the expiring for the other team...its the fact if we want to trade for a guy we need this contract to match a salary over 5m...

Dirk, Parsons, Wes, Deron we cant touch...so there arent many small multimillion contracts to pack together in a trade....Felton, Harris...

Lestat_1795 · 08-02-2015, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MavzMan

I really did love watching Marquis and JHo play. I wish they could have kept a full career here in Dallas.

Me too.

spreedom · 08-02-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Felton's not a bad guy at all but I wish he would get the hell off our roster. I will not be happy if we keep him over Jenkins, Ndour, or Famous.

I'd say Jenkins is a near-lock to make the roster, but I definitely agree with the sentiment. I'd rather take a long look at the younger guys than giving playing time to a lame-duck backup point guard on a team that isn't in need of that sort of depth.

purplefrog · 08-02-2015, 12:58 PM

Warriors traded Gerald Wallace to the Sixers for Jason Thompson. Media reports suggest Philadelphia will waive Wallace and eat his $10M contract. Would have loved to see the Mavs try to make that deal for Thompson with Felton. Would have saved Philly $6M dollars and the Mavs could have brought in another vet to play 4/5. Might have missed an opportunity.

Thebo · 08-02-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Warriors traded Gerald Wallace to the Sixers for Jason Thompson. Media reports suggest Philadelphia will waive Wallace and eat his $10M contract. Would have loved to see the Mavs try to make that deal for Thompson with Felton. Would have saved Philly $6M dollars and the Mavs could have brought in another vet to play 4/5. Might have missed an opportunity.

And what's the sweetener the Mavs could've used? As you know... Mavs have no picks and 76ers doesn't actually need to save any money.

EricaLubarsky · 08-04-2015, 09:19 AM

Josh Howard healthy and wants a camp invite.

Then again, he's no longer a young chicken. 35 and hasn't played good basketball since leaving the Mavs in 09-10 and hasn't played NBA ball since 12-13

Wishing him good luck getting signed by someone. Otherwise maybe Vin Baker will hire him as a barista.

Vinsanity · 08-04-2015, 02:26 PM

Give me Josh Howard all day lol. Don't care if he can't contribute much. One of my favorite players of the Dirk-era.

Underdog · 08-04-2015, 02:38 PM

I wouldn't mind JHo as a camp body, maybe give him the option to retire in a Mavs uniform.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-05-2015, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

18 now on the roster.

Only one we've heard of who hasn't signed is CV3. I like him a lot, but understand that sharpshooting is a coveted skill. Really hope he stays.

http://charlievillanueva.sportsblog....-of-heart.html

I ate crow last year for laughing when we gave him a camp invite and now I'd be sad if he ever left.

EricaLubarsky · 08-05-2015, 10:44 AM

CV3 in Dallas and expected to sign his deal today.

That'll put us at 19 camp bodies with a max roster for pre-season of 20.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-06-2015, 12:51 AM

Has anyone heard anything on Upshaw? Last I saw about 3 weeks ago he was going to sign a 2year minimum with partial guarantee with Lakers in just a day or 2. That was 3 weeks ago though and nothing has been sent to league office and nothing has been reported. I mean we are at 19 spots and I don't think we would give the last spot to another developmental player but at the same time.... We had Greg Smith on the 15man last year and he was so awful RC played Aminu at the 5 vs Deandre Jordan. So if a developmental player snuck into the 15man then it wouldn't be much different than seeing Greg Smith. We worked him out pre draft so if he is out there and we chose to sign all these other projects I'm pretty sure we didn't like what we saw from his workout from before the draft. Was just curious why I haven't read anything about him signing in over 3 weeks.

EricaLubarsky · 08-06-2015, 09:35 AM

Upshaw reminds me of Odom-- terrifically talented, but a total head case. Head cases Don't just risk the roster spot-- they can risk team chemistry.

That, and Upshaw gave a verbal commitment to the Lakers. I don't want us to be that team who goes after players who have already committed.

Also, he's represented by Bill Duffy-- a guy who doesn't do business with us. He represented Nash when he ditched us. He represented Rondo last year. Not much love there. Can't imagine we could get traction with an agent like that, particularly when Upshaw is probably smoking pot with Bill Walton in SoCal as we speak.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-06-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Upshaw reminds me of Odom-- terrifically talented, but a total head case. Head cases Don't just risk the roster spot-- they can risk team chemistry.

That, and Upshaw gave a verbal commitment to the Lakers. I don't want us to be that team who goes after players who have already committed.

Also, he's represented by Bill Duffy-- a guy who doesn't do business with us. He represented Nash when he ditched us. He represented Rondo last year. Not much love there. Can't imagine we could get traction with an agent like that, particularly when Upshaw is probably smoking pot with Bill Walton in SoCal as we speak.

Upshaw really didn't impress in the summer league. Shot blocking is really the only thing he is good at.

And yeah, after Rondo, the FO won't be taking chances on head cases in the near future.

NeedlesKane · 08-06-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

CV3 in Dallas and expected to sign his deal today.

That'll put us at 19 camp bodies with a max roster for pre-season of 20.

Charlie Villanueva announces his new deal! Happy to have him back officially. I was never too concerned. He really feels blessed by the Mavericks organization.

Melonhead · 08-07-2015, 12:14 AM

Markieff morris? Could really boost the bench and back up Dirk. Has a lot of downside but could really use his athleticism. He wants out of phoenix.

Thebo · 08-07-2015, 09:16 AM

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Markieff morris? Could really boost the bench and back up Dirk. Has a lot of downside but could really use his athleticism. He wants out of phoenix.

He probably just wants to team up with his brother again. No point in taking a risk with that. Only possible trade could be Harris + Felton for Morris but I'm not keen on trading Harris. I'd only be interested if Koponen joins Mavs.

Melonhead · 08-07-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thebo

He probably just wants to team up with his brother again. No point in taking a risk with that. Only possible trade could be Harris + Felton for Morris but I'm not keen on trading Harris. I'd only be interested if Koponen joins Mavs.

Its possible they release him because he wont talk to players or coaching staff. Hes a punk. But on minimum, or stretch Felton and give him 2m, it could work.

DGM · 08-07-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Its possible they release him because he wont talk to players or coaching staff. Hes a punk. But on minimum, or stretch Felton and give him 2m, it could work.

Morris twins played for less money in order to be on the same team and were promised by Phoenix that they would not be split up. Calling the man a punk because he won't deal with folks who lied to him and his brother is harsh. According to the Morris twins the Suns word is equivalent to D. Jordan's.

Thebo · 08-08-2015, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Its possible they release him because he wont talk to players or coaching staff. Hes a punk. But on minimum, or stretch Felton and give him 2m, it could work.

When released why wouldn't he fly straight to Detroit?

There is no financial reason for Suns to release him and I don't expect them to do so. It isn't like he's the first one who is severely disappointed and has to sit on bench for whole season.

FreshJive · 08-08-2015, 03:59 AM

Morris twins creep me out.

Five-ofan · 08-08-2015, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Upshaw really didn't impress in the summer league. Shot blocking is really the only thing he is good at.

And yeah, after Rondo, the FO won't be taking chances on head cases in the near future.

Odom didn't stop us. I doubt seriously rondo does

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-08-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Odom didn't stop us. I doubt seriously rondo does

The desperate need for a starting pg of Rondo's quality was worth the risk. If an all star or former all star center becomes available...fine. Taking a chance on an undrafted head case without much talent? No.

Quetzalcoatl · 08-08-2015, 06:45 PM

Alex Kennedy: Sources close to JaVale McGee say he’s focused on getting healthy. Several teams have shown interest. Mavs, Lakers seem like frontrunners. – via Twitter AlexKennedyNBA

EricaLubarsky · 08-08-2015, 08:05 PM

Oh God no

Thukydides · 08-09-2015, 03:45 AM

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Oh God no

come on.. we need some athleticism, dont we?

Thebo · 08-09-2015, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Oh God no

No worries, he's bound to go to the Lakers. He'll have hard time getting any playtime behind Zaza and Sam.

EricaLubarsky · 08-09-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Thukydides

come on.. we need some athleticism, dont we?

WE needed a PG who could make plays, too-- and got Rondo

We needed an athletic sixth man-- and got Odom

This isn't just about needs

Underdog · 08-09-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

WE needed a PG who could make plays, too-- and got Rondo

We needed an athletic sixth man-- and got Odom

This isn't just about needs

You're talking about a starter and a 6th man, whereas McGee would be buried at the end of the bench as our 3rd center and totally expendable. If he becomes a disruption, he'll probably be off the roster before we even know there's a problem. His limited role makes him much less of a risk than Rondo or Odom.

Plus, he doesn't have the same resume as those guys... This is likely his last chance to prove himself in the NBA, whereas Rondo and Odom were each given another chance after their stints in Dallas simply because of what they'd already achieved in their NBA careers. I don't think Javale has that luxury.

Personally, I'm far more concerned with what's going on between his ears when he's on the court than him being a cancer in the locker room. Dude is a bit of a knucklehead... But he does bring something to the table that we need, so I don't see any harm in seeing if he can contribute.

FreshJive · 08-09-2015, 01:24 PM

If Javale came to Dallas, I'm not sure he would be the third center. Especially behind Dalembert, and ZaZa seems more suited to be a backup. I also doubt he comes to Dallas over LA if the Mavs are selling him the third spot in the rotation.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-09-2015, 01:49 PM

That tweet sounds like yesterday's news. Sounds like McGee isn't even healthy.

quietsavant · 08-09-2015, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

If Javale came to Dallas, I'm not sure he would be the third center. Especially behind Dalembert, and ZaZa seems more suited to be a backup. I also doubt he comes to Dallas over LA if the Mavs are selling him the third spot in the rotation.

The Mavs have an Ace in (Casey Smith) when it comes to Oft-injured guys. See: Amar'e most recently. I think we downplay that often but Agents are well aware of medical staffs like Dallas or Phoenix. (it's no surprise chandler looked to phoenix after leaving here, money of course played a role). I'll be shocked if Javale doesn't lean more towards Dallas than LA, considering how many games he missed the past few years...

As for Javale being a reclamation project, I'm all in. And for those naysayers, I seem to remember quite a few denouncing Mavs interest in a guy named Charlie V...Who was lazy, bad seed, chucker (he might still be this haha) but things turned out ok, so lets not go flying off the handle just yet.