Official offseason 2013-2014 thread - Page 61 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

grndmstr_c · 07-20-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

Dallas made an offer.

I have yet to see any independent confirmation of the original report.

Underdog · 07-20-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

I have yet to see any independent confirmation of the original report.

Sounds like his agent making smoke.

Melonhead · 07-20-2013, 03:48 PM

I hope that's just bs smoke his agent is saying, though I doubt it. I hate watching barbosa play. The Celtics seemed to deflate anytime he was on the court and the ball was in his hands. Please no.

mac222b · 07-20-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moogle

He missed the summer league games due to "illness" and "personal reasons". However, the timing coincided with the expiration/extension of the deadline to guarantee his 2013 salary. Most likely, he was held out for contractual reasons.

Honestly, I never liked Bernard James anyway. He's a center who stands only 6'8.75" tall (without shoes). He's an inexperienced player who will turn 29 yrs old this season. As a prospect, he has very little upside. Too raw to contribute immediately, too old to be developed patiently. I always assumed the Mavs drafted him only as a marketing gimmick. His army background has always made him very popular with the fan base.

But I can't blame the Mavs for their poor 2012 draft class. Looking back now, there weren't a lot of good players remaining at that 17th spot.

Actually I think Evan Fournier and Marquis Teague(and possibly Terrence Jones)are going to make leaps this year and become solid rotation guys. Andrew Nicholson has turned to to be pretty good. Also Draymond Green is already better than Jae. Not to mention Sullinger.

Personally I would have loved it if they could have moved up for John Henson but realize thats not always an easy thing to do.

Vinsanity · 07-21-2013, 12:32 AM

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...rom-mavericks/

Why? Just Why?...

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2013, 05:47 AM

Its almost like Don Nelson is back in town. But I even think he'd have a 6'9 point forward in the mix somewhere lol. All of these guards just don't make sense.

Budapest Maverick · 07-21-2013, 03:35 PM

I didn't know he is injured, not to mention that injury being a torn ACL, and MCL... In that case, i change my mind, we really shouldn't go after him.

EricaLubarsky · 07-21-2013, 05:18 PM

When will we know if James and/or Akognon clear waivers?

grndmstr_c · 07-21-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When will we know if James and/or Akognon clear waivers?

48 hours from when they were waived, if I understand things correctly.

LonghornDub · 07-21-2013, 05:25 PM

Wouldn't put much stock into that Barbosa thing. Sounds like a classic agent leak.

jasperjj · 07-21-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When will we know if James and/or Akognon clear waivers?

The Sarge cleared waivers.

yahyes · 07-21-2013, 09:35 PM

Can we afford Kenyon Martin?

spreedom · 07-21-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When will we know if James and/or Akognon clear waivers?

I don't see any way Akognon gets claimed. And as was mentioned, Sarge somehow cleared waivers and will be re-signed (per Stein).

EricaLubarsky · 07-21-2013, 10:37 PM

Calathes dealt for a future pick (second?) to Memphis.

Underdog · 07-22-2013, 11:51 AM

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Windmill360 · 07-22-2013, 11:53 AM

Needs its own thhread

Underdog · 07-22-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Needs its own thhread

Good point... Done.

j0Shi · 07-22-2013, 01:05 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

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DALLAS MAVERICKS
Key moves: Signed Jose Calderon (four years, $29 million), Monta Ellis (three years, $30 million)

Mark Cuban thinks they're better off without Dwight Howard. And if you believe that, then I'd like to tell you more about this great timeshare I have in the Oklahoma panhandle.

The Mavs dismantled their championship team from 2011 in order to make a couple of runs at prime free agents. In theory, it made a lot of sense. The team's window wasn't going to stay open long, so Cuban and company were trying to make the sensible decision to restock and make a new window by signing a new centerpiece to eventually take the torch from Dirk Nowitzki. It was supposed to be Deron Williams last summer, Dwight Howard and/or Chris Paul this summer. Swing and a miss.

So the Mavs were left once again to try and scramble pieces together to field a team worthy of Dirk. Incoming are Calderon, a solid point guard and Ellis, the most volume-y of all the volume scorers. The Mavs might be good enough to compete for a playoff spot. But they aren't going to be doing anything in the postseason, which for them, is supposed to be the goal.

Grade: D-

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

Underdog · 07-22-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

Kinda hard to take that article seriously when they don't even have their numbers right - Ellis is reported to be closer to 3/25... And why is our score based on our odds of winning a ring when everyone else's is based on how they compare to last season?

samoan-maverickII · 07-22-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

He also gave the Pistons a "B". This is a joke.

yahyes · 07-22-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

That assessment is WACK. We need a long term PG as our first priority. Calderon fits the bill. We also needed another big scorer to help Dirk carry the load. Ellis can fit the bill extremely if Carlisle works with him good. Dwight was merely the fun of free agency than priority IMO.

Dirk's Knee · 07-22-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

There were so many who felt the same going into the 2010/2011 season. I want to see how the team clicks before I make any predictions. I still think we're weak in the middle as compared to the top teams in the west (though Dalembert, James, and Wright aren't too shabby a line up). But if (a healthy) Dirk and Calderon click like I think they will, the Mavs are going be much better than that article projects (plus the dude is a Thunder beat writer).

purplefrog · 07-22-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

My favorite is the B- he gives Orlando for signing Jason Maxiell. Clearly that is a better move than signing Calderon, Ellis, and Dalembert.

CanadianMavsFan · 07-22-2013, 02:56 PM

The one comment at the bottom is a Dallas fan ripping apart the Thunder's chances in favour of the Mavericks. Gave me a good chuckle.

A D- is ridiculous though. As disappointing as this off season was in many respects the team still improved at PG, SG, and C. The three positions they needed to upgrade.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-22-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

Not that I use this as a crutch, but aren't the Mavs written off every season anyway? I really can't remember before a season started where the critics were like "oh yeah, Mavs are contenders no doubt." Maybe the 06-07 season after reaching the finals the season before.

sike · 07-22-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...ll-30-teams-do

Grade is a bit harsh, but I agree that a first round exit is the probable outcome.

A first round exit is probable for all but a handful of teams any given season, no?

He15man · 07-23-2013, 03:48 AM

I would give us a B, we didn't get Dwight but we did upgrade at the spots we needed and got a little more depth and a better team around Nowitzki.

You combine that with Dallas setting up for the next off-season and we have something to work with.

dude1394 · 07-23-2013, 07:55 AM

I cannot give us mich more than a c. I think we will be much better offensively but we will have to see defensively. From just reputation, it is going to be a sieve out front.

Dirk's Knee · 07-23-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I cannot give us mich more than a c. I think we will be much better offensively but we will have to see defensively. From just reputation, it is going to be a sieve out front.

The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking we may just be able to outscore everyone. Here are last year's PPG averages for our projected starters:

Dalembert - 7
Dirk - 17
Marion - 12
Ellis - 19
Calderon - 11

66 points. Plus last season performance for our backups:

James - 3
Wright - 8
Carter - 13
Crowder - 5
Ellington - 8

37 points for a total of 103 points. Not too bad!

Now Ellis will probably see a reduction in scoring a bit, but Wright came on strong at the end of last season and I expect to see an increase in his PPG (and minutes). Plus Dirk's numbers last year are depressed from slow recovery and will likely be closer to 20 PPG. We will likely be bringing back Harris after he recovers and who knows what we have in Mekel, Larkin, and Ledo. Honestly, I'm starting to feel pretty good about next year looking at how the roster is shaping up. Maybe we get killed inside by the teams with the dominant centers, but hopefully they won't be able to stop our shooters. May all even out...

GermanStandard · 07-23-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee

The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking we may just be able to outscore everyone. Here are last year's PPG averages for our projected starters:

Dalembert - 7
Dirk - 17
Marion - 12
Ellis - 19
Calderon - 11

66 points. Plus last season performance for our backups:

James - 3
Wright - 8
Carter - 13
Crowder - 5
Ellington - 8

37 points for a total of 103 points. Not too bad!

Now Ellis will probably see a reduction in scoring a bit, but Wright came on strong at the end of last season and I expect to see an increase in his PPG (and minutes). Plus Dirk's numbers last year are depressed from slow recovery and will likely be closer to 20 PPG. We will likely be bringing back Harris after he recovers and who knows what we have in Mekel, Larkin, and Ledo. Honestly, I'm starting to feel pretty good about next year looking at how the roster is shaping up. Maybe we get killed inside by the teams with the dominant centers, but hopefully they won't be able to stop our shooters. May all even out...

This how many points will the Players score next season is always fun but most of the time pretty much wrong.

Also, the Mavs may score 103 but what if they get like 106 or so from their opponents?

If i have to do this calculation stuff i would more go like:

Dalembert - 7
Dirk - 19
Marion - 10
Ellis - 18
Calderon - 10

64 points. Plus last season performance for our backups:

James - 2
Wright - 6
Carter - 11
Crowder - 5
Ellington - 8
(Harris/Larkin/Mekel) = 5
41

= 101 PPG

Calderon has more scoring options beside him than in Detroit and will have more APG but less PPG. Ellis will stay pretty much the same i hope but with better FG%. Marion gets older and lived of his explosiveness. I doubt he will go for more than 10 PPG. Dalembert 6-7 Points is realistic.

Carter same like Marion. Again a year older and he had a outstanding year last year. Doubt he will do the same this year. Ellington is good he can go for 9-10. Crowder was good in SL und should improve his scoring a bit, same goes for Wright.

Still i just fear a lot of problems at the defense side.

Dirk's Knee · 07-23-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanStandard

This how many points will the Players score next season is always fun but most of the time pretty much wrong.

Also, the Mavs may score 103 but what if they get like 106 or so from their opponents?

If i have to do this calculation stuff i would more go like:

Dalembert - 7
Dirk - 19
Marion - 10
Ellis - 18
Calderon - 10

64 points. Plus last season performance for our backups:

James - 2
Wright - 6
Carter - 11
Crowder - 5
Ellington - 8
(Harris/Larkin/Mekel) = 5
41

= 101 PPG

Calderon has more scoring options beside him than in Detroit and will have more APG but less PPG. Ellis will stay pretty much the same i hope but with better FG%. Marion gets older and lived of his explosiveness. I doubt he will go for more than 10 PPG. Dalembert 6-7 Points is realistic.

Carter same like Marion. Again a year older and he had a outstanding year last year. Doubt he will do the same this year. Ellington is good he can go for 9-10. Crowder was good in SL und should improve his scoring a bit, same goes for Wright.

Still i just fear a lot of problems at the defense side.

I would agree we'll see a drop in Carter in Marion. Though much of Carter's increased scoring last year was from 3's which don't require him to be quite as athletic. But why would you score Wright down in points from last season's average? The only reason his average last season was so low was due to the limited playing time in the first half of the season. After his last DNP-CD where RC started giving him some minutes, he actually averaged closer to 12 PPG with great efficiency. I'm really betting he's going to be in the 12-14 range this year and see the floor consistently. And Dalembert averaged 6.7 PPG last year on 16.3 MPG. As a starter with our limited big men he's going to have to average 20+ MPG. With the exception of the 08/09 season when he's played 20+ minutes he's averaged 8.5 PPG. Hopefully we can squeeze that out of him.

Looking at last seasons numbers, 101.1 is what Dallas averaged (8th overall tied with LAC, and that was without Dirk half the year). Our problem was allowing 101.7. I think Dalembert is a defensive upgrade over Kaman and hopefully if we get Harris as planned he will provide a defensive upgrade at guard when needed. Really hoping Crowder and Sarge have improved defensively as well and have no idea what to expect out of Mekel/Larkin. If we can shave 1 point off what we allowed opponents last year, we're looking at a whole lot more wins. You don't think this team is better than last years? 103 PPG would rank us 4th in the league last season. That's what the Spurs averaged. Miami averaged 102.9.

moogle · 07-24-2013, 04:26 PM

PLOT TWIST: Mavs reluctantly waived Bernard James and Josh Akognon, and were fearful that teams were lining up to pluck Bernard James from their squad. Turns out no team in the league wanted Bernard James at all.

It's actually Josh Akognon that is claimed off waivers... by the Grizzlies.

Underdog · 07-24-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by moogle

PLOT TWIST: Mavs reluctantly waived Bernard James and Josh Akognon, and were fearful that teams were lining up to pluck Bernard James from their squad. Turns out no team in the league wanted Bernard James at all.

It's actually Josh Akognon that is claimed off waivers... by the Grizzlies.

I didn't like Akognon in Summer League at all - dude is a black hole on offense.

And I doubt we had any interest in reacquiring him anyway with Mekel and Larkin on the roster.

He15man · 07-24-2013, 04:43 PM

Id rather have Sarge than Akognon

Bayliss · 07-24-2013, 04:46 PM

Glad Aragorn is gone. Good shooter. But he played the game like he was in one of those quarter basketball hoop shoots.... as soon as he got it he fired it up.

Melonhead · 07-24-2013, 05:00 PM

I liked akognon and think he has a great shot. But his size leaves a lot to be desired so I'm not sad to see him go.

Melonhead · 07-24-2013, 05:07 PM

Ledo signed to a 4 year deal. Hope he can come up to the NBA in a couple seasons

sike · 07-24-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Ledo signed to a 4 year deal. Hope he can come up to the NBA in a couple seasons

woah. this kid could be exciting.

Melonhead · 07-24-2013, 06:08 PM

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woah. this kid could be exciting.

Kinda surprised noone on the board has mentioned it yet. I think he could blossom and the mavs definitely see something in him

moogle · 07-24-2013, 06:16 PM

Daryl Morey must've really made an impression on Mark Cuban.

First the Mavs hand a Chandler Parsons-esque contract to an unproven 2nd rd pick in Ledo. Then they take another Houston-like gamble on rookie Gal Mekel by giving him a fully guaranteed 3-year contract for the minimum. Then they poach Gersson Rosas from the Rockets' front office.

I only hope the Mavs' scouting department can justify the gambles the Mavs' front office is taking.