Life after Collison

[clutch#41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiAwpYIkRmU

[GhostFace]

Best part about this thread are the tags. Hilarious.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

The moderators of this site set limits on who can create posts. You referred to the very rule in your previous post. There is a reason that D-M.com posters can't come in and post threads. Creating threads for others is skirting that rule, which is not such a good thing for someone who already has a terrible track record of creating threads.

P.S. you keep using the word "tattletale". I do not think it means what you think it means.

I gave you advice about not breaking the rules. I'm pretty sure that that is not being a tattletale.

Seriously Erica?.. you need to get over yourself just a bit.

[|_Jeff_|]

The OP is right. Everybody knows Kaman, Collison and Mayo are here as stop-gap measures to pass the season until the next round of FA. Their contracts were more appealing than their performance. Writing is on the wall.

Specifically, these aren't the players the Mavs FO wanted, they are contract flexibility the MBT got after things didn't work out.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by |_Jeff_|

The OP is right. Everybody knows Kaman, Collison and Mayo are here as stop-gap measures to pass the season until the next round of FA. Their contracts were more appealing than their performance. Writing is on the wall.

Specifically, these aren't the players the Mavs FO wanted, they are contract flexibility the MBT got after things didn't work out.

The Dallas Financials!

[sefant77]

bump

Collison our starting PG?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by sefant77

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Collison our starting PG?

Yeah, this thread is fucking retarded.

[sefant77]

We dodged a bullet with Kidd breaking his word..

[adonis]

Kidd/Collison would've been nice though.

[oilfieldtrash]

Originally Posted by adonis

Kidd/Collison would've been nice though.

I'm sick of old guys that can't move. I'd rather have Dojo with his potential getting those minutes.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

I'm sick of old guys that can't move. I'd rather have Dojo with his potential getting those minutes.

Dojo isn't going to be in the league past this year if he can't suddenly develop a jumpshot. Roddy>Kidd>Dojo.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally Posted by mavs777

Dojo isn't going to be in the league past this year if he can't suddenly develop a jumpshot. Roddy>Kidd>Dojo.

There have been plenty of effective point guards play in this league who couldn't make a jumpshot. DoJo can be a solid 1/2 backup if he attacks the rim, distributes, plays defense, and rebounds.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

There have been plenty of effective point guards play in this league who couldn't make a jumpshot. DoJo can be a solid 1/2 backup if he attacks the rim, distributes, plays defense, and rebounds.

The list of successful NBA guards that can't hit ANY jump shot is pretty small. I give him more of a chance than I did during our last argument about it, and I do really like his defense, but he could really help himself by developing at least a 15 footer.

[LonghornDub]

I don't know whether he will or won't, but to me, there's no compelling reason why he shouldn't be able to develop a jumpshot. He has a great coaching staff and endless resources. If the effort is there, there's no real excuse for him not becoming a serviceable jumpshooter. If he doesn't...that's his problem.

[sefant77]

Yep...and its allready 2.5 years.

The day after they drafted him they told him that he has to improve his jumpshot and 2.5 years later there is still basically nothing.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

There have been plenty of effective point guards play in this league who couldn't make a jumpshot. DoJo can be a solid 1/2 backup if he attacks the rim, distributes, plays defense, and rebounds.

So if he picks up skills he doesn't currently have he can be a backup? Ok. And he already attacks the rim, he just can't finish.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Yep...and its allready 2.5 years.

The day after they drafted him they told him that he has to improve his jumpshot and 2.5 years later there is still basically nothing.

I'm confused what you mean by, there is still basically nothing? The last cpl games he is a much better player, and starting to look like he can provide some rest for Collison and fill in when needed. Coach even said last game that he was a huge factor in the win. He needs to continue to build his confidence by attacking the way he has and things will continue their upward trend. He can do the things we saw in the preseason in the NBA.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

I'm confused what you mean by, there is still basically nothing? The last cpl games he is a much better player, and starting to look like he can provide some rest for Collison and fill in when needed. Coach even said last game that he was a huge factor in the win. He needs to continue to build his confidence by attacking the way he has and things will continue their upward trend. He can do the things we saw in the preseason in the NBA.

Unfortunately you see this a lot with unknown players, small playing time and poor defenses. If say for example he is the collison backup. Teams get tape on him, pay attention to him and never let him drive again. They just dare him to shoot it and pack the paint.

I'm not sure there is a substitute for hitting a wide open jump shot when you are 6'x" wing player.

[Kante]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

I'm confused what you mean by, there is still basically nothing? The last cpl games he is a much better player, and starting to look like he can provide some rest for Collison and fill in when needed. Coach even said last game that he was a huge factor in the win. He needs to continue to build his confidence by attacking the way he has and things will continue their upward trend. He can do the things we saw in the preseason in the NBA.

"Nothing" = No jumpshot at all.

[sefant77]

Yep, i was refering to his jumper...

[clutch#41]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, this thread is fucking retarded.

LOL Awesome!!

[ribosoma]

If the Ghost of Mental Stability isn't embarrassed by this thread, he is truly hardcore.

[markus1234]

So far Collison > Deron Williams

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/...arren-collison
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/...deron-williams

and it's not even close.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Unfortunately you see this a lot with unknown players, small playing time and poor defenses. If say for example he is the collison backup. Teams get tape on him, pay attention to him and never let him drive again. They just dare him to shoot it and pack the paint.

I'm not sure there is a substitute for hitting a wide open jump shot when you are 6'x" wing player.

In theory that can sometimes work. But you can't "pack the paint" with the 3 sec rule. Also, they can run pick n roll to get things moving. There are several ways around him not being a good shooter and teams saggin down.

[dude1394]

I'm not talking about packing the paint with everyone, just his defender. And a pnr doesn't work because everyone will just go under it.

If he were a dynamic finisher, maybe, but he's not that either. Even Lebron,diva can't make it work without a credible jumpshot.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by ribosoma

If the Ghost of Mental Stability isn't embarrassed by this thread, he is truly hardcore.

Rep for the "Mental Stability" reference.

[BGMaverick9]

http://www.mavsfastbreak.com/?p=15226

[The Ghost of Championship]

Derek Fissure is life after Collison. Ouch.

Originally Posted by ribosoma

If the Ghost of Mental Stability isn't embarrassed by this thread, he is truly hardcore.

oof

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

Derek Fissure is life after Collison. Ouch.



oof

Fishers is much more active.

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Fishers is much more active.

Yeah....doesn't really matter for me. All that garbage he was spitting out during the lockout was the icing on the cake of his career of stabbing everyone but the Lakers in the back. He's like Lamar Odom. LA does something to these guy's heads to where they refuse to play well anywhere else.

Back to the lockout, dude said a lot of garbage that really got under my skin. I realize he represented the players and was just doing his job, but there are a lot of low end players who don't make much after taxes and had to scrape by while multi-millionaire Derek Fisher was fighting over 2%.

[OneLove22]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

Yeah....doesn't really matter for me. All that garbage he was spitting out during the lockout was the icing on the cake of his career of stabbing everyone but the Lakers in the back. He's like Lamar Odom. LA does something to these guy's heads to where they refuse to play well anywhere else.

Back to the lockout, dude said a lot of garbage that really got under my skin. I realize he represented the players and was just doing his job, but there are a lot of low end players who don't make much after taxes and had to scrape by while multi-millionaire Derek Fisher was fighting over 2%.

That 2% matters to all of the guys who were "struggling to get by". Please, they can get a loan for the summer with the salaries they make.

[The Ghost of Championship]

^not a financial adviser.