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Old 07-27-2006, 07:25 PM   #1
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This puts the saints in a tough position because reggie is gonna want more than vince. Glad to see him sign, cant believe they gave him that close to what the number 1 pick got. BTW, just as an aside on the bush v Young debates, Vince RUSHED for more yards in his college career than reggie did. Just something to think about.


NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Tennessee Titans promised they wanted Vince Young, the third pick overall and the first quarterback taken in the draft, under contract before they opened training camp.



They avoided any lengthy holdouts Thursday, agreeing to terms with both Young and LenDale White a day before the first practice Friday afternoon.



Young, the No. 3 overall pick out of Texas, agreed to a five-year deal, with an option for a sixth, with $25.7 million guaranteed and an overall value that could reach $58 million with option and roster bonuses and salary.

The contract includes a $12.3 million option bonus due next March, a $2.365 roster bonus due this year and six years of guaranteed salary totalling $11.075 million, for guaranteed money totalling $25.74 million, ESPN.com's Michael Smith reports. There's a one-time bonus of $4.1 million Young can collect should he play in 35 percent of the Titans' snaps this year or 45 percent in any other year.


That would top the six-year, $54 million deal with $26.5 million guaranteed for the top draft pick, defensive end Mario Williams of Houston.



"It was a great deal for us," said Major Adams, the quarterback's agent.



Adams flew into Nashville a week ago and has been negotiating with Reese to have Young under contract before the Titans open training camp on Friday afternoon. The Titans also wanted Young in camp on time to speed his development for a team trying to rebound from a 4-12 record in 2005.



"We're pleased to finish up these rookie contracts in time for camp," general manager Floyd Reese said.



"Both sides had one goal, and that was to get him in on time," Adams said. "We accomplished that, and we worked diligently to get him in."



Adams said Young, who was in Nashville on Thursday, was very excited and will be in Clarksville on Friday.



Coach Jeff Fisher called the deals good news even though the deals still had to be finalized and signed, which could delay Young's first practice.



"This is an especially important year for both these players, in addition to all the other draft choices," Fisher said. "They're able to come in at the start of camp and put a full training camp under their belt before the season starts."



Reese has had all but two of his top draft picks under contract before training camp since the franchise relocated to Tennessee from Houston in 1997. Cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, the sixth pick overall in 2005, missed 20 days of training camp before signing his own five-year deal.



"This ensures that all of our rookies can focus on football and improving each day in practice so they can be in a position to contribute to the team," Reese said in a statement.



Young won't come into training camp as the starter. That job, for now, belongs to six-year veteran Billy Volek.



But the Titans used their highest draft pick since taking Steve McNair in the same spot in 1995 looking for another franchise quarterback. They gambled on the athletic ability and promise shown by the 6-foot-4, 233-pound Young and drafted him over Matt Leinart of Southern California and Jay Cutler of Vanderbilt.



"Every practice is important," Fisher said. "Every session is important. Training camp goes beyond practice. It's meetings, walk-throughs, all those kinds of things. Every day is important, especially as it relates to a young quarterback."



Young led the Texas Longhorns to a 30-2 record in three seasons, including the national title last January in the Rose Bowl. Young completed 61.8 percent of his passes and also had 43 career runs of 20 yards or longer, including seven of 51 yards or longer.



He totaled 9,167 yards offense at Texas, a school record. He also was second in the Heisman Trophy voting last year and won the Davey O'Brien award as the top quarterback.



White, the former Southern California running back, lost that Rose Bowl to Young and also came out after his junior season. But it was a right hamstring injury that kept him from running for teams before the draft that dropped him from a possible top 15 pick to the second round where Tennessee took him with the 45th pick overall.



The 6-foot-1, 235-pound running back will find himself behind starter Chris Brown and veteran Travis Henry. But White has shown both power with 52 rushing touchdowns and dependability with only four fumbles in his last 541 carries.



He averaged 6.6 yards per carry and led the nation in scoring with 156 points in 2005.



The Titans also agreed to terms with fifth-round pick Terna Nande. The linebacker from Miami of Ohio agreed to terms on a three-year contract.
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BTW, just as an aside on the bush v Young debates, Vince RUSHED for more yards in his college career than reggie did. Just something to think about.
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I hope Vince becomes the most dominant professional athlete in the history of the NFL...

Move over Bo Jackson, Young is joining the NFL!
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No truth to the vicious rumor that he misspelled his name on the first signing attempt.

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over-rated and over paid.


Genius kiki....good one.

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Old 07-27-2006, 11:01 PM   #6
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No truth to the vicious rumor that he misspelled his name on the first signing attempt.
lol, genius.
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F all of you haters... You will truly be made fun of when this dude goes off in the next couple of years....
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over-rated and over paid.


Genius kiki....good one.
underrated if anything. The man almost single handedly won the national championship with the most dominating championship performance in history. Yet the media thinks the players he crushed (bush, leinart, etc) are better.

Young has proven everything he has needed to so far so why not give him a chance to play in the league before calling him "over-rated" based on nothing.
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The Rose Bowl game was probably the most stunning game I've seen in my life. It was the definition of greatness: you know what you expected of Young was impossible, improbable... but still know he'll do it anyway.

Can't wait to see him in the NFL, and hopefully blow the league away. I am a Titans fan (after the 'Boys, of course) as of today.
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over-rated and over paid.

Amen.

He's going to win as many super bowls as Vick has.

Just ask Vick and Jake Plummer if the "run around like a chicken with your head cut off" thing is working for them. The NFL doesnt work like that.

The man can't read a novel, much less a defense. Can't take a snap under center.

ugh. sick of this already and camps have just started.
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underrated if anything. The man almost single handedly won the national championship with the most dominating championship performance in history. Yet the media thinks the players he crushed (bush, leinart, etc) are better.

Young has proven everything he has needed to so far so why not give him a chance to play in the league before calling him "over-rated" based on nothing.
Because Dan and others have already elevated the kid to Johnny Unitas status and he clearly at this point hasn't done anything to earn that type of hype. Ergo...the man is over rated.

Now, before anyone calls me a hater or any other stupid ass nonsense, go back and read any t.u. related thread about his college football days and see how I posted. Vince was simply one of the most amazing athletes that I have ever seen in person and I stated that many times over the years in those threads. I had the pleasure of watching him play several times and he is a very gifted athlete. I'm sure he will enjoy some level of success in the NFL, whether it be as a starter, a career backup, a WR or RB eventually, etc. He is the type of athlete that makes rosters. However, he will not be a superstar QB in the NFL imho. I think the Mike Vick comparison is appropo.

At this point in time Vince Young is a rookie with no experience or skins to hang on the wall. He is over rated tremendously here and he most certainly was overpaid. All of the t.u. nuthuggers want us to proclaim him something he is not.

And the evidence will be shown for all the world to judge soon.

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And crow will be had Doc... 2nd season, 3rd... who knows when exactly, but crow will be had all around and you sir will have one helluva slice!
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How is he "overpaid"?
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And crow will be had Doc... 2nd season, 3rd... who knows when exactly, but crow will be had all around and you sir will have one helluva slice!
I never accept garbage like this from someone wearing burnt orange opinion retarding glasses.
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How is he "overpaid"?
Well for starters he has a contract higher than the two picks ahead of him. That's a good indicator.
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I never accept garbage like this from someone wearing burnt orange opinion retarding glasses.
Oh you will eat that shit if I have to drive down to Waco, (you know, the home of the Gaylor Bears), and stuff it in your mouth myself!
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Actually he got less than the first pick and more than likely less than bush will get. The guaranteed money is all that is important in nfl contract and he got less than williams. As for the vick comparison, he was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than vick was in college. He was a MUCH better runner and the comparison as a passer isnt even a comparison. Vince the passer is extremely underrated. He led the nation in yards per pass last year and has completed over 60% every year in college. Also on the vick comparison, dont forget the size differential. Vince is pretty easily the best running qb in cfb history excluding option qbs. Will he succeed in the pros? Im pretty sure he will but as of now doc is right, he is unproven. Then again so is EVERY rookie. He has proven alot more than reggie effing bush has. Woohoooooooo i can rush for over 1000 yards once in my college career on the most loaded offense in cfb history. Yeah reggie bush.
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I can't wait till Reggie Bush tries to pull some of that Fresno St. cutback bullshit on an NFL linebacker...

He is in for the mother of all rude awakenings.
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exactly, plus for all the talk about vince not being able to run in the nfl, he is 6-5 235. Reggie is like 6-0 215. He has always struggled with fast defenses, even carrol said, if its a fast defense its a lendale white day, if its a power defense its a reggie bush day. In the nfl ALL defenses are fast.
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I can't wait till Reggie Bush tries to pull some of that Fresno St. cutback bullshit on an NFL linebacker...

He is in for the mother of all rude awakenings.
vince young will also be in for a rude awakening in the nfl. if you notice alot of his runs came from the outside. in the nfl there are very very very very few players who can go from the outside and make a play. dont get me wrong i think vince can become very good, but it wont come as easy as it did in college.
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