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mac222b · 06-20-2017, 03:56 PM

Porz would, and should, require a kings ransom. I dont know that any team except for the Celtics could afford him. Unless the lakers are willing to give up #2 this year and Ingram.
or maybe Portland gives McCollum and their 3 picks. Even thats not enough

mac222b · 06-20-2017, 03:59 PM

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Thats the rumor

Rumor also is that Butler is requesting a trade to Cleveland.

Lol at Butler. You dont get to choose. Like theyre going to turn down a better deal from Minnesota or Boston to make Jimmy happy? Great player but a bit of a ball stopper not sure hes a good fit for Cleveland anyway. And does any team really want Kevin Love? Only downhill for him with injuries and age.

tap2390 · 06-20-2017, 07:08 PM

KP is a unique player with a lot of potential, but the Knicks requesting #4 and Devin Booker is laughable. Same for #2 and Ingram. Same for CJ and a bunch of picks. You don't take three steps backwards to take two steps forward. The most sensible trade is #3 + Jaylen Brown + Marcus Smart.

Underdog · 06-20-2017, 07:29 PM

@ESPNSteinLine: Can the Lakers now land Paul George by offering Thursday's No. 27 and 28 picks and either Julius Randle or Jordan Clarkson? They're trying.

EricaLubarsky · 06-20-2017, 08:25 PM

Atlanta sending Dwight Howard and #31 to Charlotte for Mike Plumlee, Marco Bellineli and #41, source told The Undefeated.

Marc J. Spears, The Undefeated

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-20-2017, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Atlanta sending Dwight Howard and #31 to Charlotte for Mike Plumlee, Marco Bellineli and #41, source told The Undefeated.

Marc J. Spears, The Undefeated

Whoa, great move for Charlotte...until you realize that Dwight Howard isn't worth the trouble.

hayth.james.g · 06-20-2017, 09:11 PM

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ook-lopez-pick

Wait they got Dangelo for that??? WoW!

BPo001 · 06-20-2017, 09:25 PM

The LA Clippers have gauged the market on potentially trading their All-Star defensive stalwart center DeAndre Jordan, league sources told ESPN.
– via ESPN
lol

Underdog · 06-20-2017, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

The LA Clippers have gauged the market on potentially trading their All-Star defensive stalwart center DeAndre Jordan, league sources told ESPN.
– via ESPN
lol

First Howard, now Jordan... Great decision, guys!

Underdog · 06-21-2017, 12:04 AM

So this is what it's come to with the decline of Dirk's game...

Mavs' latest free-agent recruiting tool? A new locker room with all kinds of high-tech bells and whistles

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-21-2017, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

So this is what it's come to with the decline of Dirk's game...

Mavs' latest free-agent recruiting tool? A new locker room with all kinds of high-tech bells and whistles

"We brought in experts from the casino industry to integrate lighting that stimulates energy and a complete renovation of our ventilation system so we could integrate oxygen and more into the air we deliver into the locker room."

MavzMan · 06-21-2017, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Rumor also is that Butler is requesting a trade to Cleveland.

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Lol at Butler. You dont get to choose. Like theyre going to turn down a better deal from Minnesota or Boston to make Jimmy happy? Great player but a bit of a ball stopper not sure hes a good fit for Cleveland anyway. And does any team really want Kevin Love? Only downhill for him with injuries and age.

Actually, it was Cleveland talking to Butler (I'm assuming Chicago gave permission) and Butler said that he would rather stay and rebuild a team.

Murphy3 · 06-21-2017, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

So this is what it's come to with the decline of Dirk's game...

Mavs' latest free-agent recruiting tool? A new locker room with all kinds of high-tech bells and whistles

Wasn't a top notch locker room one of Cuban's selling points when they were trying to bring in free agents in the early 00's?

mac222b · 06-21-2017, 09:02 AM

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Wasn't a top notch locker room one of Cuban's selling points when they were trying to bring in free agents in the early 00's?

Fluffy towels. And Game Boys

saclare · 06-21-2017, 09:22 AM

I mean, it won't be a huge selling point to FAs, but it's kind of a big deal when the locker room hasn't been updated since 2001. It's good to see they're trying anything and everything. In addition to the practice facility, we should have the most updated/advanced tech/space for players. Always a bonus.

spreedom · 06-21-2017, 12:14 PM

Some rumors of a 7-9 swap with the Timberwolves. Those rumors seem to suggest it would be to get Ntilikina. I'd hope it would be for DSJ if he's still on the board.

mac222b · 06-21-2017, 01:53 PM

Are we sure this isnt Minnesota playing NYK and Mavs off each other? Is Minnesota savvy enough to pull this off? Which team is dumb/desperate enough to buy it?

If its true and the mavs do use assets to move up for Frank, homeboy better be better than a younger, longer George Hill clone

SMC0007 · 06-21-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Are we sure this isnt Minnesota playing NYK and Mavs off each other? Is Minnesota savvy enough to pull this off? Which team is dumb/desperate enough to buy it?

If its true and the mavs do use assets to move up for Frank, homeboy better be better than a younger, longer George Hill clone

Yea, right out of the gate. Or end up being quite a bit better than GH

mac222b · 06-21-2017, 02:20 PM

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Yea, right out of the gate. Or end up being quite a bit better than GH

No matter what its going to take Frank 2-3 yrs. minimum to be useful. And I'm a fan of George Hill, but he's a pretty good at every thing not great at any one thing kind of guy. And cant break down a defense consistently. Same worries with Frank, though I think Frank has potential to be better in every facet, especially defense (where Hill is a smidge overrated but still a plus) and probably running an offense. Frank also seems to be a better athlete and longer. Even more suited to defensive cross matches, etc.

Would be excited if Franks our guy. But if he is get used to tuning into legends games to see him in action. No way he sees more than spot duty rookie year under Carlisle.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-21-2017, 10:59 PM

Cap fell again-
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/st...35880013864960

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NBA teams just found out they're getting $3 million less in salary cap space. Cap expected to come at $99M, down from $102M projection

Underdog · 06-21-2017, 11:20 PM

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Cap fell again-
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/st...35880013864960

Wow... The GSW Effect. Everybody suffers.

Gonna be tough to do much in free agency beyond Noel at this point unless we can unload Wes and/or Powell.

Underdog · 06-21-2017, 11:23 PM

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Wow... The GSW Effect. Everybody suffers.

Not just hyperbole...

@AlbertNahmad: The NBA lost significant revenue from the short playoffs, which had a multiplier impact on the projected salary cap.

mac222b · 06-22-2017, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Wow... The GSW Effect. Everybody suffers.

Gonna be tough to do much in free agency beyond Noel at this point unless we can unload Wes and/or Powell.

Might be for the best anyhow. Better pick (presumably) next year. Even with Jrue or Teague or whomever we are no lock for the playoffs. Play the young guys be opportunistic trade wise and build without bad contracts- unless we trade for them and good picks are attached.

sefant77 · 06-22-2017, 09:24 PM

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Donnie Nelson says this eliminates the need for the Mavs to target a point guard in free agency. "Our focus will probably be elsewhere."

Wondering...

http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/15/nba-...e-top-players/

Hayward would be of course awesome but wont happen

Millsap? To go straight back to competing?

Gallinari?

Redick?

SG? SF? PF? Where they see Barnes longterm...

Bryan_Wilson · 06-22-2017, 09:30 PM

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Wondering...

http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/15/nba-...e-top-players/

Hayward would be of course awesome but wont happen

Millsap? To go straight back to competing?

Gallinari?

Redick?

SG? SF? PF? Where they see Barnes longterm...

Every time I look at that list I realize I have forgotten just how awful this free agent class is.

BPo001 · 06-22-2017, 09:35 PM

I'd be interested in seeing what Gallinari would cost. I've always liked his game.

sefant77 · 06-22-2017, 09:45 PM

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Every time I look at that list I realize I have forgotten just how awful this free agent class is.

Yepp. Thats why the Noel trade was huge. Donald-YUUUUGE.

Gallo looks like a realistic target. Would love Porter, but the Wiz are going to match even max offers without blinking

Dtownsfinest · 06-22-2017, 09:48 PM

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Yepp. Thats why the Noel trade was huge. Donald-YUUUUGE.

Gallo looks like a realistic target. Would love Porter, but the Wiz are going to match even max offers without blinking

You think so? Aren't they trying their hand at one of these stars out here?

Skywalker · 06-22-2017, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I'd be interested in seeing what Gallinari would cost. I've always liked his game.

I feel like he has wasted his career away in Denver. Definitely a talented player.

DIRK LEGIONS · 06-23-2017, 12:23 AM

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Knicks are awful. Sounds like KP wants to leave badly but Knicks keep asking for multiple first rounders. Not even sure #9, a 2019, and 2021 could get it done.

wrong about kp he doesnt want to leave i live out here phil jackson is destroying the knick franchise.
kp didn't go to exit meeting and called team dysfunctional and phil got butt hurt and put it out that he was shopping kp.

fans here would burn garden down after they just finished 1billion renovation.
phil wanted #3 smart one of crodwer or brown plus celtics highest 1st.rd.pick next yr for kp. boston didn't want to pay the butchers deal

phil jackson a disgrace as basketball exec stealing from knicks. remember he wanted okafor and not kp in that draft philly saved knick fans

rimrocker · 06-23-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Not just hyperbole...

@AlbertNahmad: The NBA lost significant revenue from the short playoffs, which had a multiplier impact on the projected salary cap.

I'm trying to figure out if this helps or hurts our chances of resigning Curry.

I still think he will be moved because I don't see him and Smith complementing each other very well. And when you factor in Yogi and Barea we won't see a backcourt player on the floor over 6'2".

I think a 3-D guy with some size (Stevenson type) would be a nice backcourt mate going forward with Smith. I think Ferguson would be a perfect fit with Smith and thought moving Curry for that #21 pick and selecting Ferguson (6'7") would have been a great move.

Twenty4sevenn · 06-23-2017, 10:56 AM

I'm on board with Gallo. When he's locked in, he can score as well as anybody.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-23-2017, 11:04 AM

In the last like 6 years Gallo has played more than 60 games 2 times. After Parsons why on earth would we want to go through that again?

EricaLubarsky · 06-23-2017, 01:59 PM

Now that the draft is over, it's on to free agency and trades.

Noel (RFA) / Dirk (TO) / Mejri / Hammons (TO)
Barnes / Powell / Uthoff (TO)
Matthews / Finney-Smith (TO)/ Brussino (TO)
Curry / Harris (TO) / Liggins (TO)
Smith / Ferrell (TO) / Barea

A tale of two extremes. Not a lot of talent. Team has a lot of options
16 guys on the roster if we match Noel and keep all team option guys and 40 million in cap space
OR
Only 8 guys if we decline all team options and don't match.

Lots of flexibility, but also lots of borderline NBA talent (like Uthoff, Liggins, etc.)

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 11:43 AM

@ESPNSteinLine: Re-signing Nerlens Noel, league sources say, is Dallas' offseason priority, far ahead of their long-anticipated interest in UFA Jrue Holiday

@ESPNSteinLine: Harrison Barnes, Nerlens Noel, Seth Curry and now Dennis Smith ... sources say Dallas is focused on cementing and developing its young core

tap2390 · 06-24-2017, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Now that the draft is over, it's on to free agency and trades.

Noel (RFA) / Dirk (TO) / Mejri / Hammons (TO)
Barnes / Powell / Uthoff (TO)
Matthews / Finney-Smith (TO)/ Brussino (TO)
Curry / Harris (TO) / Liggins (TO)
Smith / Ferrell (TO) / Barea

A tale of two extremes. Not a lot of talent. Team has a lot of options
16 guys on the roster if we match Noel and keep all team option guys and 40 million in cap space
OR
Only 8 guys if we decline all team options and don't match.

Lots of flexibility, but also lots of borderline NBA talent (like Uthoff, Liggins, etc.)

How I see our depth chart:

Noel / Mejri / Hammons
Dirk / Powell / Uthoff
Barnes / DFS
Wes / Curry / Harris
DSJ / Yogi / Barea

I think we're set at the 1 & the 5. We have really solid depth at point. Wes has great intangible but isn't a long term solution at the 2. Curry's best role is off the bench as a 6th man gunned. Barnes is an anchor at the 3, but we could use someone behind him. Dirk is almost ageless, but it's time to find someone to develop behind him. Noel is great at the 5, and with Mejri and Powell's ability to play a few minutes there (and hopefully Hammons development) we're good there.

I'm not sure how realistic major upgrades are, but I would love to see us sign Ben Mclemore or Alex Caruso.

BPo001 · 06-24-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ESPNSteinLine: Re-signing Nerlens Noel, league sources say, is Dallas' offseason priority, far ahead of their long-anticipated interest in UFA Jrue Holiday

@ESPNSteinLine: Harrison Barnes, Nerlens Noel, Seth Curry and now Dennis Smith ... sources say Dallas is focused on cementing and developing its young core

So does that mean we plan to extend Curry?

Underdog · 06-24-2017, 02:43 PM

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So does that mean we plan to extend Curry?

That's how it reads to me...

tap2390 · 06-24-2017, 03:02 PM

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That's how it reads to me...

I really hope we don't overpay and would strongly consider selling high. He simply does not have the length or physical profile to be a long-term solution at shooting guard. If he is coming off the bench, he really should not be making more than 10 million a year. All IMHO.

mac222b · 06-24-2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I really hope we don't overpay and would strongly consider selling high. He simply does not have the length or physical profile to be a long-term solution at shooting guard. If he is coming off the bench, he really should not be making more than 10 million a year. All IMHO.

I'm not cap expert but its too bad we didn't give him a 3yr deal so we could've signed him to an early extendion&had Bird rights. I may be wrong about these things maybe it wasn't possible? Was he an exception? Could we have shaved 2m off Dirks deal or traded someone and offered him a few million more per year to sign for 3 instead of 2 years? Being able to go I've the cap to re-sign your own players and a huge advantage that other teams have taken advantage of. Trading for Noel(and even Rondo) was with this in mind. Did they sort of screw the pooch on this one?