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spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

So I can claim whatever I want about a player and as long as I use the qualifier "potential", it's okay?

Oh, and I don't see any way in hell Jefferson will average 20 points on a healthy Spurs team where he is likely the fourth option.

Jesus, reading comprehension much?

I'm not claiming something outrageous. If you honestly don't think Blair won't eventually average 10 plus rebounds a game, well, you're delusional. The 15 points a game looking back is probably a bit high but this guy will be a double double machine for the Spurs.

As for Jefferson, I said he's a 20 and 5 guy because he averaged that last season. Did I say he's averaging that this season? No. What I'm saying is he's capable of averaging that. On a night when Tony is off or Manu is off, Jefferson can step up.

SMC0007 · 07-13-2009, 04:39 PM

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spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

edit: and if Blair really does get 20 mpg this year, Spurs are in a lot of trouble

Um, why? Seriously. Are we even talking about the same Dejuan Blair?

SMC0007 · 07-13-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Jesus, reading comprehension much?

I'm not claiming something outrageous. If you honestly don't think Blair won't eventually average 10 plus rebounds a game, well, you're delusional. The 15 points a game looking back is probably a bit high but this guy will be a double double machine for the Spurs.

As for Jefferson, I said he's a 20 and 5 guy because he averaged that last season. Did I say he's averaging that this season? No. What I'm saying is he's capable of averaging that. On a night when Tony is off or Manu is off, Jefferson can step up.

You are the schmartiss guy to come in here for another teams bored for a long time.

LonghornDub · 07-13-2009, 04:41 PM

You've seen one self-entitled Spurs fan, you've seen em all.

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:41 PM

Yes, I'm a troll. Because I have a Pro-Spurs message on a Mavs board. But whatever.

clutch#41 · 07-13-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Um, why? Seriously. Are we even talking about the same Dejuan Blair?

theres a reason why he slipped into the second round!!!!
i can barely see him getting 10mpg or less!!!

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RoddyB#3

For a Spurs fan you sure don't have a good memory. True fans for both teams know that rosters make no difference when we play each other. Last season was a good example of that. We split the series in the regular season each winning on the others home court. We had it easy in the playoff series, but we all know that Ginobli would have made that series much different. If he had played it would have probably come down to game 6 or 7. Even without Ginobli the Spurs still fought as hard as they could. The rivalry our two teams have is to big for rosters to make a difference. Every one steps up when we play.

Our two teams have both gotten better. You better believe that we are in for some down to the wire games between the two of us. To think otherwise like your team has some huge advantage is a stretch. I would not be surprised if we split the series again. I hope we meet you in the playoffs to put your theory to the test.

I can agree to this. Let's have some fun in the playoffs!

SMC0007 · 07-13-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Not here trying to be a troll but...

LOL at you think the Mavs are better than the Spurs.

Sorry. They're not. Adding Marion barely improves the Mavs if he improves them at all.

Spurs add Jefferson, Dice and Blair and lose Bowen, Oberto and Thomas.

Jefferson a 20 and 5 guy, Dice a 10 and 10 guy and Blair a potential 15 and 10 guy.

Not to mention a finally healthy Manu after two seasons.

1. Lakers/Spurs (Without Odom it's the Spurs, with Odom it's a toss.)
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The rest

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch#41

theres a reason why he slipped into the second round!!!!
i can barely see him getting 10mpg or less!!!

His knees! Teams were too scared to draft him because of his red flagged knees. The same knee condition that Heinz Ward has.

He played 22 minutes yesterday in summer league. Got 13 points and 10 rebounds.

Our GM has said he'll play 20 minutes a game out the gate.

dude1394 · 07-13-2009, 04:45 PM

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Not here trying to be a troll but...

LOL at you think the Mavs are better than the Spurs.t

buzz off tool. The spurs are absolutely done. Timmah couldn't even outplay damp in that series.

FINtastic · 07-13-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Jesus, reading comprehension much?

I'm not claiming something outrageous. If you honestly don't think Blair won't eventually average 10 plus rebounds a game, well, you're delusional. The 15 points a game looking back is probably a bit high but this guy will be a double double machine for the Spurs.

As for Jefferson, I said he's a 20 and 5 guy because he averaged that last season. Did I say he's averaging that this season? No. What I'm saying is he's capable of averaging that. On a night when Tony is off or Manu is off, Jefferson can step up.

Exactly how many minutes do you think he's going to average with the Spurs?

Why are you throwing out these numbers if they have no relevance at all to your team?

Hey Shawn Marion is a 20 ppg, 10 rpg, 1+ bpg, 1+ spg guy then. Nevermind that he won't hit those numbers with the Mavericks....

yungant · 07-13-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

I'll be interested to see the reports that come out about whether the Mavs are merely disappointed by this, or are in fact angry about it. Because that's what'll tell us whether the Magic reneged on a handshake deal here. If they did, I will be wishing season-ending injuries on some of their players.
Also, just so everyone's prepared, it may be a little while before we see how the team responds in terms of player acquisitions. The odds on the Mavs using Buckner's contract in a trade just went up, but it'll be a while before he can be packaged with other players.

With all do respect......

Wishing injury on anyone is soooo not cool man. In other boards you get booted for that.

FINtastic · 07-13-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

The same knee condition that Heinz Ward has.

Is that supposed to be some player or a ketchup bottle?

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

He played 22 minutes yesterday in summer league. Got 13 points and 10 rebounds.

So he didn't even hit your projections in... summer league?

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Jesus, reading comprehension much?

I'm not claiming something outrageous. If you honestly don't think Blair won't eventually average 10 plus rebounds a game, well, you're delusional. The 15 points a game looking back is probably a bit high but this guy will be a double double machine for the Spurs.

As for Jefferson, I said he's a 20 and 5 guy because he averaged that last season. Did I say he's averaging that this season? No. What I'm saying is he's capable of averaging that. On a night when Tony is off or Manu is off, Jefferson can step up.

actually that is you, expecting a 6-6 guy over weight to average 10 rebounds a game

dirno2000 · 07-13-2009, 04:49 PM

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What about potential don't you understand. I never said he's going to average that next season, I said he's a potential 15/10 guy. He's a beast. His knees are perfectly fine and I'm so happy all the other teams were too scared to draft him.

He's going to get 20 minutes a game out the gate so his impact should be felt early.

He's a double double machine waiting to happen this season playing behind and with Duncan.

He's going to battle weight problems and he'll always be a defensive liability because he's so short.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 04:50 PM

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With all do respect......

Wishing injury on anyone is soooo not cool man. In other boards you get booted for that.

Well I hope Otis Smith rots in hell.

What do I get for that?

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

buzz off tool. The spurs are absolutely done. Timmah couldn't even outplay damp in that series.

The Spurs are done?

So Timmah? averages 20 and 8 and he didn't outplay Damp?

See, this is what I mean when I say you guys need to take off your glasses.

badfish22 · 07-13-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

His knees! Teams were too scared to draft him because of his red flagged knees. The same knee condition that Heinz Ward has.

He played 22 minutes yesterday in summer league. Got 13 points and 10 rebounds.

Our GM has said he'll play 20 minutes a game out the gate.

Well our draft pick had 34 points, 8 assist and only 2 TO.
I guess we should play him 20 minutes too.

LonghornDub · 07-13-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

He played 22 minutes yesterday in summer league. Got 13 points and 10 rebounds.

ALERT THE PRESSES!

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 04:51 PM

so guys Beaubois is gonna be a 34-8-5 guy because he did it in summer league

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

actually that is you, expecting a 6-6 guy over weight to average 10 rebounds a game

Yeah, how can I expect a 6'7 270 pound PF who is widely considered the best college rebounder in the last 10 years with a rebound PER of 18.2 to even get 5 rebounds let alone 10.

grndmstr_c · 07-13-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yungant

With all do respect......

Wishing injury on anyone is soooo not cool man. In other boards you get booted for that.

Blow me.

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

so guys Beaubois is gonna be a 34-8-5 guy because he did it in summer league

Yeah, that's how I intended it.

dirno2000 · 07-13-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Yeah, how can I expect a 6'7 270 pound PF who is widely considered the best college rebounder in the last 10 years with a rebound PER of 18.2 to even get 5 rebounds let alone 10.

6'7 my ass, he's 6'5 1/4 in socks. I know, it doesn't matter because he has arms like Freddy Kruger.

Mavsfan4ever · 07-13-2009, 04:55 PM

I just got up from my nap to the terrible news. Are there any other centers we should look at? Also this was a bone head move by Otis to tie up our MLE this long.

RoddyB#3 · 07-13-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

The Spurs are done?

So Timmah? averages 20 and 8 and he didn't outplay Damp?

See, this is what I mean when I say you guys need to take off your glasses.

Even though I hate the Spurs. It's more of a hate out of respect. They are good and I know the Mavs cannot slip up even a little bit with those guys.

Stars are always going to get theirs. He averaged 20 and 8 on bad knees. Duncan is a good guy and I have a lot of respect for him. I will absolutely hate his guts when we play though

Rick41 · 07-13-2009, 04:56 PM

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Yeah, how can I expect a 6'7 270 pound PF who is widely considered the best college rebounder in the last 10 years with a rebound PER of 18.2 to even get 5 rebounds let alone 10.

Yeah, that worked out well for Greg Oden also.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 04:56 PM

why isn't J.J Reddick then a great shooter in nba ??????????????????????????

LonghornDub · 07-13-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

Yeah, how can I expect a 6'7 270 pound PF who is widely considered the best college rebounder in the last 10 years with a rebound PER of 18.2 to even get 5 rebounds let alone 10.

Good point.

In other news, J.J. Redick, often considered the best (or one of the best) college shooters of all time, continues to average 20+ points and 5+ three-pointers per game in the NBA.

badfish22 · 07-13-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

to even get 5 rebounds let alone 10.

what?

No one said he wasn't gonna get 5 boards? Any way I think Blair will be a good rebounder in his career, and if his knees hold up he could average 10. But he will NEVER average 15 points a game.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 04:57 PM

Adam Morrison made First team all nba last year, didn't he? I didn't even have to look, I just know he was a bad ass in college.

Justin Credible · 07-13-2009, 04:58 PM

What the hell is with the arguing? I mean honestly.. He's a spurs fan, he's gonna root for his team. We're mavs fans, we're gonna root for our team. Both teams had completely different goals this offseason and both teams almost achieved those goals (No Gortat is rough...). Both teams have, nonetheless, improved and are going to be great to watch next season.

I think the Amateur GM thing has a little bit more to discuss other than arguing with a fan of another team over intangibles like potential production and playing time of a rookie on a different team..

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

6'7 my ass, he's 6'5 1/4 in socks. I know, it doesn't matter because he has arms like Freddy Kruger.

Considering NBA players don't play in socks, I don't see why that's the standard we should use to claim.

He's 6'7 in shoes. He plays in shoes. So it's safe to say he's 6'7.

FINtastic · 07-13-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Good point.

In other news, J.J. Redick, often considered the best (or one of the best) college shooters of all time, continues to average 20+ points and 5+ three-pointers per game in the NBA.

Yeah but J.J. Redick never got 13 and 10 in a summer league game once.

spursfan1 · 07-13-2009, 05:00 PM

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What the hell is with the arguing? I mean honestly.. He's a spurs fan, he's gonna root for his team. We're mavs fans, we're gonna root for our team. Both teams had completely different goals this offseason and both teams almost achieved those goals (No Gortat is rough...). Both teams have, nonetheless, improved and are going to be great to watch next season.

I think the Amateur GM thing has a little bit more to discuss other than arguing with a fan of another team over intangibles like potential production and playing time of a rookie on a different team..

I agree. I'm happy to see you can come up with a response that isn't sarcastic, nonsensical, not longer than three words with one of those words either being suck, lame, blow, troll, etc.

yungant · 07-13-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Blow me.

Its ok sunshine it'll be alright.

Rick41 · 07-13-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

SCOREBOARD... Until you beat us in the playoffs!

I got the scoreboard!

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spursfan1

I agree. I'm happy to see you can come up with a response that isn't sarcastic, nonsensical, not longer than three words with one of those words either being suck, lame, blow, troll, etc.

but you are trolling

yungant · 07-13-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

Well I hope Otis Smith rots in hell.

What do I get for that?

That's fine, there is nothing wrong with that.