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saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

25m makes Jalen 14th highest paid PG. Any moron thinking that?s too much can kick rocks.

That would be between what Conley and Lowry make. Above Brogdon and Rozier. This is the going rate.

As stated, $25mm is fine and should be the walk away number. If he wants to limit it to 4 years and be able to hit the market after, fine too. But the more you add to that, the less intriguing it gets, especially when we already have the 4th highest cap hit for the position locked up (likely 3rd after next year when Russ falls off).

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:12 PM

Anddddd now Kyrie wants out

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:12 PM

Yikesss this is nutty, NBA is really entertaining if anything...lol

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

If KD is granted his wish, what is the point of even having contracts.

And it looks like he will get traded.

Adrian Wojnarowski: Brooklyn Nets GM Sean Marks is working with Kevin Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman on finding a trade for the franchise star, Kleiman tells ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

THJ and Bertrans for KD. Get it done Nico! LOL...

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 02:17 PM

For those that keep saying "why not just pay the extra 5 million" as explained before, it's not just 5 million. This is why. If you want to say "Cuban is a billionaire he should pay it" so be it, but no MLE.

Re-signing Brunson at a deal that pays him $30 million annually, per Bobby Mark?s calculations, could cost the team $130 million in salary and subsequent taxes next season. That?s without the team using its taxpayer?s mid-level exception, a $6.4-million carveout that the team might need to sign another wing or split among several players asking more than the veteran?s minimum. It?s another calculation the team must make, a financial one dependent on how much Cuban is truly willing to spend. Dallas can?t be blamed for its valuation of Brunson being lower than New York?s. Team sources have certainly expressed surprise and dismay at just how much the Knicks are prepared to offer him. But sometimes, that?s the cost of free agency. ? via Tim Cato @ The Athletic

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Well holy shit

KD is asking out and Suns are preferred destination

I wish just once these owners would tell these players tough shit. We don?t care that you want to be traded. If they do decide to trade them IDGAF where you want to go. We are shipping your ass to the highest bidder. You want to choose where you play every season? Sign 1 year deals and not 4 year max contracts.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:26 PM

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:28 PM

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

Please god no

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

They def have the draft picks to get it done.

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I?d think Miami can put together a better package for KD than PHX? I don?t know what either teams draft pick situation looks like, but I think Herro is a better player than anyone PHX can offer up unless Ayton can do some kind of SnT.

As much as I hate Miami I?d much rather KD go there because fuck CP3 and Booker.

Also would keep KD in the East...

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...86700718817280

Holy hell, no. Give Brunson whatever he wants! Oh god...

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 02:33 PM

Maybe the NBA should go to a new format where each team picks a captain. Each captain gets to pick the best remaining player to join his team. Sort of like the new All-Star game process. The order of picking your teammates is determined by the draft order. First round picks get $40M, second round $35M, and so on. Captains can barter with other team captains and generally have fun with the process while the rest of us wait to see who is on "our team". Owners, coaches, and fans are stuck with whatever the players come up with. Rinse and repeat every year. Sound like fun?

The NBA is getting ridiculous.

saclare · 06-30-2022, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

Nope, none of those features work for me anymore. And the ? mark replaces ' and " from copy pasta for me. I'm on computer when I post so I don't know about from the phone.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Please, no. Also, with what assets?

Side note/question: when sending a message/reply do the bold/italic/underline or any of the attach link/photo buttons work for anyone? I?m on my phone, but can?t select any of them. Also not sure what?s up with the board changing all apostrophes to question marks.

Nobody wants him. I doubt you need to give up much. If they want THJ and Dwight Powell, fine, but NO WAY to Dinwiddie. No sir. No.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 02:38 PM

It's funny how we though the Brooklyn FO held firm and did the right thing...welp.

ShaggyDirk · 06-30-2022, 02:58 PM

Tic toc you don't stop!

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2022, 03:10 PM

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 03:14 PM

Rumored that FA will be on hold until the Durant deal goes through. That actually helps the Mavs since they have their Brunson meeting first.

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:21 PM

Pure fantasy, but one can dream right?

The idea of teaming up with Luka Doncic in Dallas has to be appealing for Durant. The Mavericks can easily find the matching salaries with a combination of guys such as Spencer Dinwiddie, Tim Hardaway Jr., Davis Bertans, Dwight Powell, and even Jalen Brunson through a sign-and-trade. They can also include three first-round picks in 2025 (first available draft), 2027, and 2029.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/kevin-du...-destinations/

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 03:21 PM

Nash going to stick around and coach a rebuilding Brooklyn? Nets have to get some assets back just to make salaries match, but the talent level has to be a huge drop with KD and likely Irving gone.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 03:23 PM

*throws hands up*

Welp, I give up trying to follow the offseason anymore.

*For a week, we hear repeatedly how happy Brunson is and how is definitely re-signing.
*Kyrie asks for a trade. Threatens to opt out for leverage.
*Mavs say they have no interest.
*Kyrie opts in.
*Brunson is almost definitely signing with NY.
*Miami is also meeting with Brunson.
*Oh wait, nm, Miami is not meeting with Brunson.
*KD requests trade.
*Mavs are aggressively pursuing trade for Kyrie.

Whatever. NBA twitter is bullshit. JFC, no thank you on Kyrie. Do everything you can to keep Brunson, I don't care what it costs. If he walks anyway, then at least you tried. If he walks, then go after Schroder.

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:26 PM

Quinton Mayo: There is mutual interest between Victor Oladipo and the Washington Wizards, sources tell me. ? via Twitter

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

*throws hands up*

Welp, I give up trying to follow the offseason anymore.

*For a week, we hear repeatedly how happy Brunson is and how is definitely re-signing.
*Kyrie asks for a trade. Threatens to opt out for leverage.
*Mavs say they have no interest.
*Kyrie opts in.
*Brunson is almost definitely signing with NY.
*Miami is also meeting with Brunson.
*Oh wait, nm, Miami is not meeting with Brunson.
*KD requests trade.
*Mavs are aggressively pursuing trade for Kyrie.

Whatever. NBA twitter is bullshit. JFC, no thank you on Kyrie. Do everything you can to keep Brunson, I don't care what it costs. If he walks anyway, then at least you tried. If he walks, then go after Schroder.

Can we give Brunson a part of the franchise while we're at it? I have a piece of the championship floor he can have. ANYTHING not to get Kyrie.

*two months from now*

Man, we're gonna be so great with Kyrie next to Luka. AMIRITE??!!!!

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:28 PM

ESPN added this little nugget to the front page article.

Nets general manager Sean Marks is working with Durant and Kleiman on finding a trade, Kleiman told ESPN. The Nets, however, are not buoyed to honoring any of Durant's preferred destinations and plan to make a deal that allows them the greatest return of assets, sources told ESPN.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2022, 03:30 PM

The NBA has just become a musical chairs of nonsense. Stars for picks then picks back for stars. Need a new CBA badly. This is becoming too commonplace and is very unstable.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Can we give Brunson a part of the franchise while we're at it? I have a piece of the championship floor he can have. ANYTHING not to get Kyrie.

*two months from now*

Man, we're gonna be so great with Kyrie next to Luka. AMIRITE??!!!!

All kidding aside, AT LEAST Kyrie only has one year left on his deal. If the Mavs actually want to clear salary, this would be good way to do it without having to give up anything of real value probably.

But dear god, the chaos and dysfunction in the meantime.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 03:33 PM

KD is such a baby. I?m fine accepting whatever happens at this point.

Except Kyrie.

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2022, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

The NBA has just become a musical chairs of nonsense. Stars for picks then picks back for stars. Need a new CBA badly. This is becoming too commonplace and is very unstable.

....and we drink it up like kool aid....every bit of it.

These agents find a loophole in everything. You'd think they'd found something with a salary cap, than a hard cap, luxury taxes, taxpayer exceptions....it goes on and on.

EricaLubarsky · 06-30-2022, 03:45 PM

Gallo waived

Can choose any team but the Spurs or Hawks

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:45 PM

Brian Windhorst, on ESPN, says Durant is ?focused? on landing in Phoenix, and that one reason KD requested the trade today (before start of FA) was so that DeAndre Ayton could be included in a potential trade package. Windy notes KD?s relationship with CP3 and and Devin Booker.

Melonhead · 06-30-2022, 03:46 PM

Hopefully the nets don?t do whatever KD wants. It would be glorious

SMC0007 · 06-30-2022, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

With the loss of Brunson this team is over the cap/tax and the only money we have are vet minimum deals and a 6.5mill TPMLE.

Warren will probably get at least an offer of 8-9 so he may not be an option, but if he was, would you use the MLE on him and then roll into next season with a vet min like Dragic as our backup PG?

Absolutely.

I'd be fine with SD/Dragic/Frankie sharing back up PG mins.

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

Brian Windhorst, on ESPN, says Durant is ?focused? on landing in Phoenix, and that one reason KD requested the trade today (before start of FA) was so that DeAndre Ayton could be included in a potential trade package. Windy notes KD?s relationship with CP3 and and Devin Booker.

This is awesome...now KD is telling Ayton he can only play in Brooklyn....SMH

purplefrog · 06-30-2022, 03:56 PM

We are all waiting with bated breath to hear what LeBron and KD have decided for the next NBA season. The anticipation is overwhelming.

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 03:57 PM

I didn't realize KD had a no trade clause, but I just heard that. So he can control his destiny.

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2022, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

We are all waiting with bated breath to hear what LeBron and KD have decided for the next NBA season. The anticipation is overwhelming.

Lebron can't be the first one that started this back in 2010....there's got to be others prior....Shaq in 96, was that as big?

JustJay · 06-30-2022, 04:03 PM

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
1 minute ago
Update: League sources tell me that the Mavericks' scheduled meeting tonight with Jalen Brunson is OFF. More NBA from me: marcstein.substack.com

BPo001 · 06-30-2022, 04:04 PM

Welp?

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
?
4m
Update: League sources tell me that the Mavericks' scheduled meeting tonight with Jalen Brunson is OFF.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-30-2022, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJay

Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
1 minute ago
Update: League sources tell me that the Mavericks' scheduled meeting tonight with Jalen Brunson is OFF. More NBA from me: marcstein.substack.com

If it's already a done deal that Brunson is going to NY, then fine. No sense in going through a dog and pony show. If however, the Mavs just gave up because Cuban is being petulant, then that is not fine.

Either way, I'm honestly glad I at least don't have to worry about it anymore. Get Schroder and be done with it.