10-20-2004, 11:40 AM
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Nellie with Norm
Anyone catch this entire interview? I only heard a brief part of it. I did hear him say that Benga was moving past Bradley, though, as the #3 center! Wow. He also said that Benga was not a godo rebounder, for his athleticism, but that if he were then he would receive "significant" minutes this year. Still, he did say that he expects him to play this year, when at first he thought it would be a year or two before he got into an NBA game.
I also hear him mention a 10-man rotation, but I didn't hear the details.
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10-20-2004, 12:37 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
Wow, Bradley fourth string!!!!!
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10-20-2004, 12:47 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
Nellie really hates my homeboy Shawn. Man.
Mbenga is an intriguing player, but there is no way that he could be more effective than Bradley in an NBA game given the same number of minutes. At least not from the summer league action I saw.
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10-20-2004, 12:58 PM
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RE: Nellie with Norm
Well, when Nellie realizes that Mbenga doesn't pass to the Refs, he thinks "maybe he is better then Bradley"....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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10-20-2004, 12:58 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
It seems that Bradley's only purpose on the roster is to be Nellie's permanent whipping boy. I wish a media person would ask Nellie: "If Shawn sucks sooooooo bad, why do you even keep him around?"
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10-20-2004, 01:03 PM
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RE: Nellie with Norm
When Don beats down Shawn, he knows he will take little flack from the fans (cause most of them think Shawn is a failure) or the media(same reason)...and lastly, Shawn is such a nice guy, he won't really make much fuss.
I don't like the Bradley hating from Nellie...I can handle it from stupid basketball fans, but someone who has been in the game as long as Nelson should know better.
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10-20-2004, 01:15 PM
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RE: Nellie with Norm
M'Badass
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10-20-2004, 01:48 PM
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RE: Nellie with Norm
I wish Don Nelson all the luck in the world this next season (he's going to need it). Whatever the outcome may be, you deserve it big man!
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10-20-2004, 01:54 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Whatever the outcome may be, you deserve it big man!
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10-20-2004, 02:49 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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I wish Don Nelson all the luck in the world this next season (he's going to need it). Whatever the outcome may be, you deserve it big man!
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You never let me down when it comes to a thread relating to Mavs centers. I guess this move is surprising. I get the impression Benga is the type of center whose foul prone. I don't see him getting more than 15 minutes a game on this team and maybe less if all his minutes come at the 5 position.
As far as Bradley goes unless he has strongly declined he should be our backup to Damp. I guess Nellie is finally getting his wish to never have to play Bradley again. I wonder who goes in the doghouse now?
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10-20-2004, 03:02 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
Why don't the Mavs just trade Bradley? I'm sure there's a team out there who needs a decent center. Bradley has been just wasting away on the bench because of Nellie's BS.
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10-20-2004, 05:28 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Why don't the Mavs just trade Bradley? I'm sure there's a team out there who needs a decent center. Bradley has been just wasting away on the bench because of Nellie's BS.
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I don't think any team wants Bradley except for the Knicks. Nothing against Bradley I just think his reputation kills him.
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10-20-2004, 05:29 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
Bradley has a bad reputation? this is new to me.
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10-20-2004, 07:38 PM
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Bradley has a bad reputation?
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If you consider "bad" as soft, unintimidating, and poster-seeking... then yes.
I believe Shawn Bradley, when given consistent minutes will help any team out defensively. But Shawn Bradley has a way of bringing out the best in people too. Just ask Shaq. Many people view him as weak and will contest him, shove him around, and dunk on him repeatedly. That is the view of most players have on him. And most coaches see him as limited in the grand scheme of things.
(But I guarantee you that there are mmany takers in this league.)
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10-20-2004, 07:54 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Why don't the Mavs just trade Bradley? I'm sure there's a team out there who needs a decent center. Bradley has been just wasting away on the bench because of Nellie's BS.
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Why bother? Why help out another team? It's not like we would get a player who could crack our rotation for him so why make a trade? It's not like Bradley cares whether or not he plays - he's getting paid either way.
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10-20-2004, 08:20 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Why don't the Mavs just trade Bradley? I'm sure there's a team out there who needs a decent center. Bradley has been just wasting away on the bench because of Nellie's BS.
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I don't think any team wants Bradley except for the Knicks. Nothing against Bradley I just think his reputation kills him.
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I can assure you that Zeke won't be trading for Mantis. Just not Zeke's kind of player.
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10-20-2004, 08:31 PM
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Great, great news. I still think Bradley has a place here.
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10-20-2004, 09:22 PM
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RE: Nellie with Norm
Bradley is right where he deserves to be. The only time he played hard for more than two straight quarters was when he was in a contract year. He doesn't care if he plays or not, he just wants to collect his paycheck. If he plays a few minutes in one out of three games we should feel lucky, because that's all he has made out if his career.
Don't get me wrong, I think he is a good person, just a bad basketball player.
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10-20-2004, 09:44 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Bradley is right where he deserves to be. The only time he played hard for more than two straight quarters was when he was in a contract year. He doesn't care if he plays or not, he just wants to collect his paycheck. If he plays a few minutes in one out of three games we should feel lucky, because that's all he has made out if his career.
Don't get me wrong, I think he is a good person, just a bad basketball player.
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Wow, what a well thought out argument.
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10-20-2004, 09:59 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
bradley's trash. useless. it never ceases to amaze me that people here still back him, and thinks he should get decent time. hopefully he falls off the end of the bench and we give his spot to derek hood.
people just think hes much more capable than he actually is. but the sad truth is, that he isnt. nellie doesnt make him look goofy out there, he does that all by himself. i have a good presence to believe half of what people thought about the mavs was based on bradley being here as a player. being soft and all that business.
not hes lost in the shuffle and good riddens.
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10-20-2004, 10:53 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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Bradley has a bad reputation?
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If you consider "bad" as soft, unintimidating, and poster-seeking... then yes.
I believe Shawn Bradley, when given consistent minutes will help any team out defensively. But Shawn Bradley has a way of bringing out the best in people too. Just ask Shaq. Many people view him as weak and will contest him, shove him around, and dunk on him repeatedly. That is the view of most players have on him. And most coaches see him as limited in the grand scheme of things.
(But I guarantee you that there are mmany takers in this league.)
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poster seeking..wtf does that mean? that tells me he tried to block a shot..which is more than a lot of centers do in this league
bradley averages two blocks per 20 mins? or something like that and he couldn't get off the bench last year for a team that claimed they didn't have a center..give me a break
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10-20-2004, 11:24 PM
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Other players look for him. He is one of several big guys who are sought out by their opponents to get posterized. Not that it's their fought. But most players realize that Shawn Bradley is not going to "knock them on their @ss" so they go for the spectacular. And the worst that will happen is it will get blocked.
That is the difference between a guy like Shaq, and a guy like Shawn. Shawn is clearly the better defensive player. But Shaq is clearly the more intimidating and feared.
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10-21-2004, 01:06 AM
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Dogpile the bug clumsy guy, huh? Bullies!
In honor of Big Shawn, the best 4th string center in the NBA, I will recount his greatest NBA moment.
In our first playoff series in many years, against the Jazz, we were in the middle of turning the series moment in our favor and pulling off the upset. The Jazz could feel their hold slipping and were getting desperate. The Jazz got out on the break and Donyell Marshall ended up with the ball as he streaked to the basket. He got up high or a one handed jam only to be met by Big Shawn at the top of his flight. Block number one. The Mavs took the ball the other way... the next Jazz posession is another break with Marshall running the wing. Pass to Marshall, Donyell rises to dunk, and again he's met in the air by the Storm'n Mormon. Shawn caps Donyell 2 times in 15 seconds as a part of the Mavs stealing the momentum and stealing the series. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
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10-21-2004, 01:14 PM
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RE:Nellie with Norm
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10-21-2004, 01:19 PM
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monkey......genius....wrong, but genius.
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