Why Republicans are crazy literally.

[#1MavsFan]

1.) Continue to think the "war" in Iraq has a meaning to it even though no WMD's were found. It isn't about Iraqi freedom, especially since they DON'T want the U.S. there so us being there takes away from their freedom in a way. And the only ones that somewhat want us there are the Sunni Muslims who make up about 3% of Iraq if that, and they only want us there since they hope the Bush regime will leave one of their leaders in charge.

2.) Continue to think the Iraqi election will be a real election even though a "war" is going on in the streets. People there don't even know about the election, and Americans know much more about it. The election is just a mere delusion by Bush in hope than it somehow goes successfully and he can pull out while the American people will somewhat think the war was ok. It's about as idiotic as it gets.

3.) Continue to believe word after word Bush say's even though he's proven he's a liar. "There's WMD's there", "We'll be out of Iraq by summer", etc.

4.) Continue to think there’s hope for the economy while such dumbfounded decisions are made. In Bush's term, the stock market has become very unstable, millions have lost jobs, dolor continues losing value, and inflation continues to occur. What has Bush done to help any of this? Lets see. He continues to help Americans lose jobs by not amending out the law that allows U.S. companies to send all there jobs over sea's without the employee having to pay any taxes which only helps the Big Business’s and screw's out the common person once again.

5.) Continue to believe Bush is telling the truth when he say's we'll be out of debt soon. Lets see, he turns a surplus that was suppose to last for the next 10 years into a huge deficit that many mathematicians say will take us 50 years to pay off if Bush continues to spend at this rate. He's spending about 1.87 billion a day since September 2004, and the war isn't even 10% of that. How exactly is he going to get us out of this "50 year+ debt" in his term? Another lie.

6.) Continue to believe Bush's plan for Social Security makes sense. So Bush watches the stock market is going down during his term, so what does he decide to do? Risk the future of citizens by wanting to put social security money into it. What a idiot.

7.) Continue to believe gay marriage’s effect them. How do you plan on figuring out whether or not someone is married? yea.

8.) Continue to believe Bush cares about education. After he wastes trillions he can't even properly fund the No child left behind plan which would actually HELP man students. And why should he care about education especially since he barely passed through college only because of his fathers donations to the university. Its quite pathetic.

9.) Continue to believe in the fear from the Bush regime. This regime has enlisted fear in people over nothing and people actually voted for the first time over fear instead of hope and dreams for the future. Quite pathetic once again.

That’s it for now, but there’s many more examples.

[reeds]

great list..im sure dude is trying to think of some "comeback" right now...but it will take time to deny such obvious points...but he will find a way to SPIN it..as usual...

[capitalcity]

#1MavsFan[/i]

9.) Continue to believe in the fear from the Bush regime. This regime has enlisted fear in people over nothing and people actually voted for the first time over fear instead of hope and dreams for the future. Quite pathetic once again.

The election was not one of HOPE vs. FEAR - you give Rove and Cheney too much credit.

[MavKikiNYC]

Did someone just fart in here? Nine times?

[#1MavsFan]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC
Did someone just fart in here? Nine times?

Is that the best spin you can come up with?
heres some more...

10.) Continue to watch and believe what Fox News says. Fox News is far from a real news channel and its mostly just a campaign channel for the Republican party, and after all it is owned by the former campaign manager of the republican party. Some quotes from fox news. "what deficit", "although the casualty toll has reached 1,000 the war is going very well and is a success", "the new proposed social security plan is absolutely genius", etc. Fair and balenced, right.

11.) Continue to believe the rest of the world is wrong and they're right. Lets see the rest of the world criticizes Bush and the war for having no purpose, whats the response? "The UN is corrupt". The rest of the world believes Bush is a killer and the response is "Iraqi Freedom!". Iraqi's say "get out of Iraq". hmm..... seems like the war's more about receiving credit for something thats not happening rather than admiting your wrong and moving on.

[MavKikiNYC]

Is that the best spin you can come up with?

Really doesn't take any more than that to refute your demi-literate drivel.

Kind of comical to watch you and Reeds jacking each other off though.

[Usually Lurkin]

. . .Turnout was brisk in Shiite Muslim and mixed Shiite-Sunni neighborhoods. Even in the small town of Askan in the so-called "triangle of death" south of Baghdad, 20 people waited in line at each of several polling centers. More walked toward the polls.
"This is democracy," said Karfia Abbasi, holding up a thumb stained with purple ink to prove she had voted.
Rumors of impending violence were rife. When an unexplained boom sounded near one Baghdad voting station, some women put their hands to their mouths and whispered prayers. Others continued walking calmly to the voting stations. Several shouted in unison: "We have no fear."
"Am I scared? Of course I'm not scared. This is my country," said 50-year-old Fathiya Mohammed, wearing a head-to-toe abaya.
At one polling place in Baghdad, soldiers and voters joined hands in a dance, and in Baqouba, voters jumped and clapped to celebrate the historic day. At another, an Iraqi policeman in a black ski mask tucked his assault rifle under one arm and took the hand of an elderly blind woman, guiding her to the polls.

This is meaningless?

I don't know why you loons don't want to help these people in their transition from death and oppression to freedom and self-determination. You're ready to cry tyranny over Bush and Cheney because you don't feel your voice is being heard - do Arabs just not deserve the same? Is it racisism? Is it religious? Are you just that selfish?

[mercury_rev]

[quote]
And the only ones that somewhat want us there are the Sunni Muslims who make up about 3% of Iraq if that, and they only want us there since they hope the Bush regime will leave one of their leaders in charge.[quote]


If you're going to start an anti-Bush rant, at least get close to factual accuracy with your first talking point. Sunnis comprise roughly 20% of the Iraqi population, and overall they are the MOST anti-coalition segment thanks to the "glory" days under Saddam.

[dude1394]

Originally posted by: reeds
great list..im sure dude is trying to think of some "comeback" right now...but it will take time to deny such obvious points...but he will find a way to SPIN it..as usual...

Here it is, i've been working on it for a year now...

[dude1394]

And another "spin" from powerline

Reader Haider Ajina has spoken with his family in Iraq and writes us from his home in California:

I just finished my phone call to my Father in Baghdad, Iraq. He voted, my 84-year-old Grandmother voted, my uncles and aunties voted, my cousins voted. They were elated, happy, energized, empowered and grateful.

To all the men and women who have served and serving in Iraq, to all the families of those who have paid the ultimate price to all those who have suffered during their service in Iraq, my family’s and my deepest thanks, gratitude and pride both from the U.S. and Iraq for all the sacrifices, endurance and service for our great country and Iraq and the Iraqis. God bless all of you and keep you safe.

God bless this great country of ours, and God bless our leadership who have the courage to free oppressed people in our times.

[mavsman55]

It isn't about Iraqi freedom, especially since they DON'T want the U.S. there so us being there takes away from their freedom in a way.

With the exception of insurgents, you're wrong. I am close friends with 3 people who are serving in Iraq right now, 2 from the marines, one in the army, and 90% of citizens welcome them warmly, thank them continuously and give them gifts of food and drink for helping free them and restore their humane lifestyles.

"Spin" that all you want #1mavsfan.

[reeds]

"With the exception of insurgents, you're wrong. I am close friends with 3 people who are serving in Iraq right now, 2 from the marines, one in the army, and 90% of citizens welcome them warmly, thank them continuously and give them gifts of food and drink for helping free them and restore their humane lifestyles.

"Spin" that all you want #1mavsfan."

A WHOLE " 3"????? WOW- that makes your comments totally credible!! Dont have to spin some comment that dumb.

[Ninkobei]

OK. would you rather us NOT be over there Reeds? The more time they remain cut off from the world by their dictators the more terrorists there become. You're a typical democrat - bashing on the credibility of our soldiers. Please do the world a favor and go report on Iraq yourself, that way there will be one less idiot to try to convince.

[mavsman55]

Originally posted by: reeds
"With the exception of insurgents, you're wrong. I am close friends with 3 people who are serving in Iraq right now, 2 from the marines, one in the army, and 90% of citizens welcome them warmly, thank them continuously and give them gifts of food and drink for helping free them and restore their humane lifestyles.

"Spin" that all you want #1mavsfan."

A WHOLE " 3"????? WOW- that makes your comments totally credible!! Dont have to spin some comment that dumb.

What do you suggest reeds? Is the media more credible than people who are actually over there fighting? It doesn't matter if it's 1 person or 1000 people... the liberal sources from which you get your information are obviuosly not telling the same story as the soldiers are.

Who would you believe? A reporter or a soldier?

Just comes to show how ignorant you are.

[#1MavsFan]

Originally posted by: mavsman55

With the exception of insurgents, you're wrong. I am close friends with 3 people who are serving in Iraq right now, 2 from the marines, one in the army, and 90% of citizens welcome them warmly, thank them continuously and give them gifts of food and drink for helping free them and restore their humane lifestyles.

"Spin" that all you want #1mavsfan.

Most ill advised thing I've seen all day and I've watched fox today. Even Fox's own poll showed 77% of Iraqi's wanted the U.S. out, 3% unsure, 20% wanted the U.S. there. An anti american goverment will come to power if the election was done fairly, since the people there truly hate us. Kerry said it best today, we've turned a non terrorist country into a terrorist country. Iraq is now filled with terrorist's as you can see on the news with soldiers dying daily and 100's more civilans, the U.S. invasion has killed just as much if not more civilians than the Sadam regime did.

The main purpose behind this war is us establishing protection for Israel and theres no other way around it. Iraq wasn't a threat to us everyone knew that, they didn't have wmd's , the Iraq's don't want us there so it's not about the new excuse "iraqi freedom". It's all to protect Israel since the other middle east countries are a threat to them because of the Palestine situation. The right thing to do would have been to settle that situation as Clinton tried but Bush is a complete moron and decided to create a blood shed for basicly nothing. Spin it however you want but it's the truth.

And for the 3% Sunni Muslims that was a exageration I thought which was quite apparent by reading it, and I was going more for the Sunni's who the Bush regime want in power since the majority of them even want Bush out.

Now go ahead and spin with your ill advised knowlege of whats going on.

Can't wait to see how Bush will spin the Iraqis forming a anti american goverment eventually.

[capitalcity]

Originally posted by: #1MavsFan
Most ill advised thing I've seen all day and I've watched fox today. Even Fox's own poll showed 77% of Iraqi's wanted the U.S. out, 3% unsure, 20% wanted the U.S. there. An anti american goverment will come to power if the election was done fairly, since the people there truly hate us. Kerry said it best today, we've turned a non terrorist country into a terrorist country. Iraq is now filled with terrorist's as you can see on the news with soldiers dying daily and 100's more civilans, the U.S. invasion has killed just as much if not more civilians than the Sadam regime did.

The main purpose behind this war is us establishing protection for Israel and theres no other way around it. Iraq wasn't a threat to us everyone knew that, they didn't have wmd's , the Iraq's don't want us there so it's not about the new excuse "iraqi freedom". It's all to protect Israel since the other middle east countries are a threat to them because of the Palestine situation. The right thing to do would have been to settle that situation as Clinton tried but Bush is a complete moron and decided to create a blood shed for basicly nothing. Spin it however you want but it's the truth.

"Iraq is now a country of terrorists."
"US invasion killed more civilians than Saddam ever did."
"Main purpose of OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM was to establish protection for Israel."

Each of these statements give new meaning to the phrase "ill advised knowledge."

Hate us? Hardly. Of course the Iraqis don't relish occupation - they are a proud peoples whose civilization spans millenia. They are smart enough to comprehend the actions of an army of liberation and why a peacekeeping force is necessary now. Today marks the first event in the eventual withdrawl of forces. Yet the brave men and women who just today took steps to establish a new Iraq are labeled terrorists. Terrorists? Zarqawi's group numbers 12-20000 out of a country of 26 MILLION.

Kurds and Shiites have waited for this day since 1991. The same year that we abandoned them to face the most brutal mass murderer since Pol Pot. Saddam Hussein has killed hundreds of thousands - with weapons of mass destruction - and would have continued to kill had he not been deposed. His justice will come - here, or in the afterlife.

Israel? Bush bashing is par for the course - but concocting Zionist conspiracy theories is manipulation of truth beyond the pale. I don't know what the hell you think you know about arab-israeli relations but check this out. The palesinians have just held open elections. Abbas is set to meet with Sharon - who just advocated pulling out of west bank settlements. They are CLOSER than they ever were during the Clinton/Arafat/Rabin photo ops to a lasting peace.

#1MavsFan - Your bombast moore-onic drivel is unworthy of debate.