05-26-2004, 10:19 PM
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Orlando trade
I could not find the thread that discussed the Magic trade for the #1 pick....but since they got it officially tonight I would bring it back up......
It would likely be #1 & Grant Hill
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Antoine Walker and whatever filler they need & probably future pick(s)
Personally I am all for it because I like Okafor more than all of the FA big men that are available....yes he lacks ideal size at 6'10 but he is a smart, strong defensive player who has decent low-post moves that can get much better.........
best of all Nellie would HAVE to play him because the whole Maverick Nation would rise up if the big was sitting on the bench......
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05-26-2004, 10:24 PM
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RE: Orlando trade
Let me think, if I was in charge in Orlando, who would I rather have...Okafor or Walker? Okafor or Walker?
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05-27-2004, 02:20 AM
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RE:Orlando trade
If they really want to get rid of Grant Hill, then Walker doesn't sound all too bad. I don't know what teams would be willing to take on Hill and trade away an all-star for a draft pick, even if it is the #1. Walker could be a stud paired with TMac and TMac has stated he wants veteran help. Anything could happen.
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05-27-2004, 11:31 AM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Let me think, if I was in charge in Orlando, who would I rather have...Okafor or Walker? Okafor or Walker?
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This is easy. Walker all the way. Walker is a proven talent in the NBA and former allstar. Okafor hasn't done anything. (joke)
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05-27-2004, 12:28 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
Orlando wants to up their talent level immediately while also creating as much room for improvement as possible. By trading Grant Hill and the number one pick for Walker (a huge expiring contract) this opens them up for some major cap room in the near future, while also giving them the option to trade Walker closer to February where his stock will increase dramatically(thus landing them immediate veteran help) It's not a matter of whether the Magic would want Walker over Okafor...you have to look deeper my friends. This trade gives the Magic hope to make a significant change either this season, or next offseason...as opposed to waiting 4 more years for Hill's contract to be up.
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05-27-2004, 12:38 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Let me think, if I was in charge in Orlando, who would I rather have...Okafor or Walker? Okafor or Walker?
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Pepsi....or Coke? Pepsi...or Coke? [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]
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05-27-2004, 12:40 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Let me think, if I was in charge in Orlando, who would I rather have...Okafor or Walker? Okafor or Walker?
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This is easy. Walker all the way. Walker is a proven talent in the NBA and former allstar. Okafor hasn't done anything. (joke)
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*that's* a joke?? How so?
Okafur HASN'T Done anything yet!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]
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05-27-2004, 12:42 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: Dirkenstien
Orlando wants to up their talent level immediately while also creating as much room for improvement as possible. By trading Grant Hill and the number one pick for Walker (a huge expiring contract) this opens them up for some major cap room in the near future, while also giving them the option to trade Walker closer to February where his stock will increase dramatically(thus landing them immediate veteran help) It's not a matter of whether the Magic would want Walker over Okafor...you have to look deeper my friends. This trade gives the Magic hope to make a significant change either this season, or next offseason...as opposed to waiting 4 more years for Hill's contract to be up.
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So Walker is not considered a "veteran" after 8 seasons?? *raises eyebrow*
If they trade Walker for "veteran help", the Talent they get in return will not be equal to Walker's(not to mention the AGE DIFFERENCE; Walk is 27, I think)....All they would be doing is trading a very talented 3-time allstar for roleplayers and in case everyone forget, that Orlando team has one superstar and a bunch of Roleplayers. Why add ANOTHER when you could add the perfect #2 man(or imperfect as the case may be) for McGrady?? I think Walk can do for T-Mac what he helped do for Pierce.
That said, I think the Magic would rather let Walk play out the last season of his contract and then determine whether he's worth re-signing(to a lower deal of course) or not.
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05-27-2004, 12:48 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: MightyToine
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Originally posted by: Dirkenstien
Orlando wants to up their talent level immediately while also creating as much room for improvement as possible. By trading Grant Hill and the number one pick for Walker (a huge expiring contract) this opens them up for some major cap room in the near future, while also giving them the option to trade Walker closer to February where his stock will increase dramatically(thus landing them immediate veteran help) It's not a matter of whether the Magic would want Walker over Okafor...you have to look deeper my friends. This trade gives the Magic hope to make a significant change either this season, or next offseason...as opposed to waiting 4 more years for Hill's contract to be up.
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So Walker is not considered a "veteran" after 8 seasons?? *raises eyebrow*
I think the Magic would rather let Walk play out the last season of his contract and then determine whether he's worth re-signing(to a lower deal of course) or not.
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Therein lies the options I'm speaking of MT. I'm not necessarily claiming that the Magic "would" trade Walker, rather im implying that if things were not exactly going well with Walker on the team they could either trade him for some other players that they may be interested in at the trade deadline(when his trade value should be at its highest), or simply allow the season to play out and let Walker walk...giving them huge amounts of cap flexibility to lure a top FA into town in the next offseason.
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05-27-2004, 12:52 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
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Originally posted by: Dirkenstien
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Originally posted by: MightyToine
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Originally posted by: Dirkenstien
Orlando wants to up their talent level immediately while also creating as much room for improvement as possible. By trading Grant Hill and the number one pick for Walker (a huge expiring contract) this opens them up for some major cap room in the near future, while also giving them the option to trade Walker closer to February where his stock will increase dramatically(thus landing them immediate veteran help) It's not a matter of whether the Magic would want Walker over Okafor...you have to look deeper my friends. This trade gives the Magic hope to make a significant change either this season, or next offseason...as opposed to waiting 4 more years for Hill's contract to be up.
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So Walker is not considered a "veteran" after 8 seasons?? *raises eyebrow*
I think the Magic would rather let Walk play out the last season of his contract and then determine whether he's worth re-signing(to a lower deal of course) or not.
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Therein lies the options I'm speaking of MT. I'm not necessarily claiming that the Magic "would" trade Walker, rather im implying that if things were not exactly going well with Walker on the team they could either trade him for some other players that they may be interested in at the trade deadline(when his trade value should be at its highest), or simply allow the season to play out and let Walker walk...giving them huge amounts of cap flexibility to lure a top FA into town in the next offseason.
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True. But do you agree with my other statement which you left out?
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05-27-2004, 01:26 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
But what if the Magic decide they want to take Dwight Howard (he's probably a better scorer than Okafur on the NBA level)???
T-Mac and Howard would be tough to beat in the East. He would guard JOs and K-Mart and be athletic enough to run the fast break. It would be scary if the magic were thinking this!!!!
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05-27-2004, 05:28 PM
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RE:Orlando trade
There is no way Howard comes in as a rookie and plays at a high level........we will see how much power McGrady has in Orlando, because if he does than they will trade the pick for a good vet...because that is what he wants.....if the Orlando people are truly in power then they take Okafor or Howard........
I think the Mavs should call the Magic EVERY DAY up until the draft or they make the deal to get Okafor........I would love to have Okafor on this team, he provides much needed athleticism to our frontcourt and a legitimate post player that Nellie would HAVE to play....
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