06-26-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Eric Gordon, Capella and two 1st rounders I'd imagine.
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Nice, for a player you were going to lose for nothing any ways. Capela next to Embiid? Gordon would help Simmons a ton, creating lots of run way for him to navigate. But those 2 firsts would be nice.
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06-25-2019, 10:37 PM
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Houston's priority for free agency, league sources tell ESPN: Pursue a sign-and-trade for Sixers All-Star Jimmy Butler.
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Yeah and this is not happening if Butler dont wanna end up in Houston. I dont think he wants if he could go to any LA team
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06-26-2019, 05:25 AM
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Houston's priority for free agency, league sources tell ESPN: Pursue a sign-and-trade for Sixers All-Star Jimmy Butler.
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The Rockets trying to add Jimmy Butler to a locker room with CP3 and James Harden
what a huge stinkpot this would be...
Can you imagine Butler getting on Harden about his defense - let the chaos ensue.
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06-26-2019, 06:46 AM
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Clearly the motivation behind getting Butler is having someone who actually plays better in clutch moments as opposed to you know... Harden. That is if Harden lets someone else have the ball.
But yeah this sure sounds like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
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06-26-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber
The Rockets trying to add Jimmy Butler to a locker room with CP3 and James Harden
what a huge stinkpot this would be...
Can you imagine Butler getting on Harden about his defense - let the chaos ensue.
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https://twitter.com/DanielOyefusi/st...45097495597056
One of the better tweets I've seen in a while lol and perfectly summarizes your post/thought.
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06-25-2019, 10:45 PM
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Meanwhile, the Magic have no idea when Markelle Fultz will play...
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06-26-2019, 12:15 AM
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Meanwhile, the Magic have no idea when Markelle Fultz will play...
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Who?
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06-26-2019, 10:47 AM
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@wojespn: Golden State Warriors star Kevin Durant has declined his $31.5M player option and will become an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell ESPN. Durant and his business manager Rich Kleiman are in New York, evaluating free agency options. So far, process has stayed private.
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06-26-2019, 02:35 PM
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@wojespn: Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houston’s offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.
@espn_macmahon: Houston player to me recently: “I hope they don’t panic. I hope they don’t make drastic moves. We are right there. We’ve just got to figure out some things, fine tune some things, but we are right there. We don’t need to change much. It’s not the time to f---ing panic.”
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06-26-2019, 03:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@wojespn: Reporting w/ @ZachLowe: Houston’s offering Clint Capela, Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker individually to teams w/ space to absorb salary. Rockets trying for best available first-rounder for any of those three, hoping to redirect pick to Philly in pursuit of Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade.
@espn_macmahon: Houston player to me recently: “I hope they don’t panic. I hope they don’t make drastic moves. We are right there. We’ve just got to figure out some things, fine tune some things, but we are right there. We don’t need to change much. It’s not the time to f---ing panic.”
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So, let's see starting five of Brunson, Doncic, Tucker, Capela, and KP with Gordon and Powell coming off the bench.... + joy of watching the Rockets implode. Might be worth it?
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06-26-2019, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
So, let's see starting five of Brunson, Doncic, Tucker, Capela, and KP with Gordon and Powell coming off the bench....+ joy of watching the Rockets implode. Might be worth it?
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I'd love to go after Capela, but we don't have any draft picks to offer -- our 2020 pick is off limits because we already traded 2021 and you cannot trade consecutive picks... So we're pretty much out on this deal.
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06-26-2019, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
I'd love to go after Capela, but we don't have any draft picks to offer -- our 2020 pick is off limits because we already traded 2021 and you cannot trade consecutive picks... So we're pretty much out on this deal.
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3 Team trade with Powell and Brunson+ going to the team giving the Rockets a 1st round pick with us getting just Capela? We have our center for almost the same cost as the players we send out and then have all of our space to get a Walker/Brogdon. Let's dream big boys:
C - Capela
PF - Porzingis
SF - Doncic
SG - THJ
PG - Walker
Who says no? Team sending the 1st round pick gets 2 really good players for a very low cost given Brunson's rookie wage. Rockets chip away at the need to get their 3rd huge star in Butler and get a 1st rounder to sweeten the package to Philly. Dallas clearly swaps Brunson/Powell for Walker/Capela. Come on, make it happen...
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06-26-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Male30Dan
3 Team trade with Powell and Brunson+ going to the team giving the Rockets a 1st round pick with us getting just Capela? We have our center for almost the same cost as the players we send out and then have all of our space to get a Walker/Brogdon. Let's dream big boys:
C - Capela
PF - Porzingis
SF - Doncic
SG - THJ
PG - Walker
Who says no? Team sending the 1st round pick gets 2 really good players for a very low cost given Brunson's rookie wage. Rockets chip away at the need to get their 3rd huge star in Butler and get a 1st rounder to sweeten the package to Philly. Dallas clearly swaps Brunson/Powell for Walker/Capela. Come on, make it happen...
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I say no. Why give up Brunson and Powell for Capela (and help the Rockets) when you can sign Dewayne Dedmon outright. Dedmon can actually stay on the floor in the clutch and provide space on offense.
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06-26-2019, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I say no. Why give up Brunson and Powell for Capela (and help the Rockets) when you can sign Dewayne Dedmon outright. Dedmon can actually stay on the floor in the clutch and provide space on offense.
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I mean, hopefully we wouldn’t have to offer that much, but it’s not just Capela - it’s the flexibility to have a very good C PLUS be able to replace Brunson mightily. You’re not getting Dedmon AND Walker with cap space, but you could get a superior Capela (despite him not being able to hit a 3) AND Walker in such a scenario. And I’m not sure it helps Houston at all. Butler can be a head case. They’d never trade with us anyway so it’s a moot point.
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06-26-2019, 04:03 PM
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@wojespn: Toronto Raptors center Marc Gasol is exercising his $25.6M player option for next season, returning to the defending NBA champions, league sources tell ESPN. Gasol could’ve entered free agency.
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06-26-2019, 09:43 PM
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The stars are aligning for this to be a perfect offseason...
@TheSteinLine: The Knicks are weighing the prospect of extending a considerable one-year offer to Warriors free-agent big man DeMarcus Cousins if they miss out on top target Kevin Durant, league sources say
@TheSteinLine: The Knicks have long been planning to pursue the likes of Durant, Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard in free agency but are widely expected to turn to short-term offers if they miss out on their primary targets
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06-26-2019, 11:09 PM
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@ChrisBHaynes: New York Knicks will not extend a qualifying offer to Emmanuel Mudiay, making him an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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06-26-2019, 11:19 PM
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@ChrisBHaynes: New York Knicks will not extend a qualifying offer to Emmanuel Mudiay, making him an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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I’d take Mudiay over Frank in a second for min
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06-27-2019, 12:32 AM
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I’d take Mudiay over Frank in a second for min
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Same... Kinda surprised they’re giving up on him, dude seemed to be a find.
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06-27-2019, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I’d take Mudiay over Frank in a second for min
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Same... Kinda surprised they’re giving up on him, dude seemed to be a find.
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I hear Dolan's putting out feelers for a new GM.
You should both apply.
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06-27-2019, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I’d take Mudiay over Frank in a second for min
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I still take the 6-6 20y old for the potential.
With Luka and Brunson you can gamble a little bit at this position
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06-27-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
I still take the 6-6 20y old for the potential.
With Luka and Brunson you can gamble a little bit at this position
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I don’t know much about Mudiay, but he’s 6’5” and only 23.
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06-27-2019, 01:12 PM
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I don’t know much about Mudiay, but he’s 6’5” and only 23.
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Frank also has a bigger wingspan (7"), so he can easily switch and defend also SF...
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06-27-2019, 12:53 AM
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Knicks: were dumping our franchise player, but we get cap space for Kylie and Durant!
Also Knicks: you think Boogie Cousins would come for 25-30 mill?
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06-27-2019, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Knicks: were dumping our franchise player, but we get cap space for Kylie and Durant!
Also Knicks: you think Boogie Cousins would come for 25-30 mill?
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As weird as it sounds. Under these circumstances Boogie might make sense. Knicks have to spend money on someone and won't commit long-term money. They can easily pay Cousins 30M and see what he brings as long as it's only a one-year deal.
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06-27-2019, 12:36 PM
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Mudiay is interesting, but unnecessary if we end up landing someone like Beverly.
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06-28-2019, 07:07 PM
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From the Athletic today
"The Knicks are about to Knicks this entire offseason"
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06-28-2019, 12:20 PM
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Barnes looking at 4/90
Whoa
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06-28-2019, 01:58 PM
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Barnes looking at 4/90
Whoa
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@BR_NBA: Kings intend to sign Harrison Barnes to 4-year, $90M extension at the start of free agency, per @CarmichaelDave
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06-28-2019, 12:40 PM
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Not surprising. A sobering foreshadow of the spending to come...
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06-28-2019, 01:44 PM
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The Impending Durant-Warriors Lawsuit That No One Is Talking About
https://sportslawinsider.com/the-imp...talking-about/
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06-28-2019, 02:07 PM
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@wojespn: Sources: Golden State is planning to offer All-Star Klay Thompson a 5-year, $190M maximum contract when free agency opens Sunday at 6 PM ET --- which is expected to accelerate process of GM Bob Myers and Thompson’s agent, Greg Lawrence, quickly reaching formal agreement.
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06-28-2019, 03:07 PM
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@ShamsCharania: Milwaukee guard George Hill will be waived and become a free agent, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Hill had a terrific finish to the season and will be a sought-after combo guard on the market. Bucks are working to find space to re-sign Hill, too.
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06-28-2019, 03:33 PM
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Stein: Magic and Vuc intend to agree upon a 4 year contract in excess of 90 million at the start of free agency.
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06-28-2019, 03:56 PM
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Stein: Magic and Vuc intend to agree upon a 4 year contract in excess of 90 million at the start of free agency.
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I see no indication that Vuc is going to accept the deal, only that Orlando is offering that amount.
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06-28-2019, 06:03 PM
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Ramona Shelburne: Magic Johnson says he will help the Los Angeles Lakers in free agency in any way he can, but he is not permitted by NBA rules to be part of official team meetings with prospective free agents. Johnson said he has not been asked by the Lakers or owner Jeanie Buss to participate.
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According to my guy @stephenasmith ... Kawhi made a personal request to the Lakers that their free-agent meeting include only owner Jeanie Buss and their former team president Magic Johnson
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With the Lakers now expected to land a Kawhi Leonard meeting, a source tells @TheAthletic that LeBron James AND Anthony Davis are planning on being part of the formal pitch.
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06-28-2019, 11:06 PM
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Darren Collison retires.
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06-29-2019, 03:03 AM
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Lol so latest is now that LA has decent chances landing Kawhi. If that happens the league can't be taken serious any longer.
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06-29-2019, 08:31 AM
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I don't know why Kawhi would do that. He has to feel pretty damn good about being one of, if not the best, players in this league. He seems to be very cautious and thoughtful, when most see it as reclusive, which he can definitely be compared to those more comfortable with the spotlight. I think he understands how hard it would be to do it again in Toronto, unless he's absolutely sold on Siakam or the Raptors show him a path to adding another star or more firepower. And about the spotlight, would be no brighter than in L.A.
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06-29-2019, 08:39 AM
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If 3 of the top 5 players in the league end up on the Lakers, then I wish Luka a great career, but I’m out... It was bad enough to watch Durant pile onto one of the most dominant teams ever, but Kawhi to the Lakers would absolutely kill my interest in the NBA.
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