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Old 02-06-2011, 03:59 PM   #1
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Often you will draft the best player available especially if he is really high on your board and there isn't anyone available that is close to him.

That being said the Mavs are most likely going to look at the 3 front court positions in the draft here are some players to keep an eye and there scouting reports (im using NBADraft.net) if anyone has an opinion on a specific player or anything just go ahead, maybe there is a steal available.

Kenneth Faried6-8, 225
PF

NBA Comparison: Louis Amundson

Strengths: High energy post player who excels at doing the dirty work, in particular rebounding, defending and banging in the post ... Plays with exuberance and aggressiveness ... An above average, fluid athlete who is willing to sacrifice his body ... Huge hands help him to secure rebounds. Athletic body ... An excellent run/jump athlete with explosive leaping ability ... His long arms and explosiveness help to compensate for his lack of ideal size ... One of the most dominant interior forces on the college level, leads the nation in rebounds at 13.3 rpg ... A good shot blocker with timing and instincts ... Also extremely active defensively - leading the OVC in steals at 2.3 per game, very impressive for a bigman ... Offensive game has shown solid improvement ... His lack of versatility and offense actually makes him a stronger role player as he focuses most of his time and energy on improving his rebounding, defense and post play ... Has a great feel for positioning and using his length and quickness to gather rebounds ... An excellent out of area rebounder ... Competes hard, seems to have tireless energy ... Has a developing jump hook shot that he has added to his repertoire ...

Weaknesses: Undersized both in height (6'8) and weight (225 lbs) to play the 4 position at the NBA level ... Has to overcome the disadvantages of playing at Morehead, Kentucky in a smaller (Ohio Valley) Conference ... Scouts are less likely to give credence to standout stats against lesser opponents ... Needs to further develop his post skills. His moves are too predictable even against lesser competition ... Lacks any real face the basket skills. Touch and consistency are not great. Scores mostly on put backs and buckets where he gains deep position in the paint, or is able to outclass opponents with his athleticism ... A poor free throw shooter at below 60% throughout his college career. Doesn't have terrible form, but needs to focus and improve his routine some ... Passing and vision are limited. Needs to decrease turnovers. Gets far too many giveaways for someone that doesn't really use the bounce to set up baskets nor look to create offense for others ... Average at finishing non-dunks around the basket ...

Notes: Declared early but withdrew from the 2010 NBA draft ... Considered a possible late first round pick by scouts for the 2011 NBA draft ... The recent success of undersized power forwards (Millsap, Blair, Maxiell, etc) helps his cause ... Has drawn comparisons to Dennis Rodman and had a chance to speak with his idol who advised him to approach every rebound as if it were his ...


Lucas Nogueira
7-0, 200
Center
NBA Comparison: Tyson Chandler

Strengths: Brazil's next big basketball hope after Nene and Leandro Barbosa ... One of the most promising International players of the next generation ... At just 18 years of age, shows a great deal of potential ... An athletic specimen ... Shows tremendous length and great balance ... Runs the floor like a deer, makes quick moves. Can change directions quickly. Very springy ... A big time shot blocker using his length and leaping ability to be an eraser around the basket ... Excellent on the break where he uses his tremendous fluidity and speed to convert dunks ... Shows some offensive ability with a solid shooting touch and ability to knock down free throws ... Tremendous rebounder. Shows good hands.

Weaknesses: The big knock against Lucas "Bebe" is that he is lazy ... Sources around the team claim that he is a little bit difficult to deal with and already has a star's attitude ... Nothing can derail a promising career faster than a kid not willing to put the work in, so for Lucas, keeping his head on straight, continuing to work hard and focusing on his development is crucial if he's going to realize his vast potential ... Must continue to develop his upper body and overall strength ... Still extremely skinny. 200 lbs. Must bulk up, but shows wiry strength and should be able to add weight successfully without diminishing his agility ... Needs to keep developing his offensive game, prove himself against a high level of competition ...

Notes: Nickname is "Bebe" which translates to "baby" ... Also known as Lucas Riva ... Full Name is Lucas Riva Amarante Nogueira... Plays for Estudiantes in Spain. Was 2 blocks away from recording a triple double in his first game in San Antonio playing for Brazil against Puerto Rico (20p/12r/8b) ... Has 3 years left on his deal with Estudiantes


Kris Joseph6-7 217
SF

NBA Comparison: Desmond Mason

Strengths: Kris seems to be a quintessential swingman small forward ... He's a great athlete, with tremendous leaping abilities ... He is always active, always trying to make something happen around the basket whether its getting tips or put backs ... He's an above average rebounder mainly due to his explosiveness, high energy and constant motor- always following shots and trying to make something happen around the basket ... His long wingspan and athleticism give him potential to be good defender ... Offensively he's always looking for the open space ... His short range game is good, not great, although seems to be improving with each game ... Tends to shoot better off one dribble as opposed to catch and shoot ... Has an explosive first step making for one or two strong takes to the rim per game when a lane is available ...
Weaknesses: Kris is very raw, and his offensive game is rather limited ... He lacks any range on his jump shot- his shooting lacks any type of consistency or fluidity ... He has a poor handle of the basketball, and tends to be out of control too frequently ... Low basketball IQ, looks more like a great athlete playing basketball rather than a basketball player who's an athlete... Right now his skill set is too limited to have any impact at the next level, however, with an improved outside game, he could turn into an intriguing prospect
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:51 PM   #2
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Anyone in on inside information on when Calathes will join our rag tag bunch?
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:20 AM   #3
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I don't know if I would even consider Lucas Nogueira. It says that he was two blocks away from recording a triple double in his first game. That really show a total lack of commitment if he couldn't even make it those last two blocks to get to the game. What did he do stop a a strip club?
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:31 AM   #4
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i see lots of Kris Joseph and he reminds me somewhat of Julian Wright. Better form on his jumper so there is potential for him to be a better shooter. SU plays alot of zone but he could be an excellent defender in time. Plays hard but drifts a little on offense at times due to having no go to move. he basically puts it on the floor and goes straight to the rim, puts back offensive rebounds or shoots a 3. Disappeared in the tournament against Butler last year. Almost looked scared to mess up. Wanted no part of the ball.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:08 PM   #5
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i see lots of Kris Joseph and he reminds me somewhat of Julian Wright. Better form on his jumper so there is potential for him to be a better shooter. SU plays alot of zone but he could be an excellent defender in time. Plays hard but drifts a little on offense at times due to having no go to move. he basically puts it on the floor and goes straight to the rim, puts back offensive rebounds or shoots a 3. Disappeared in the tournament against Butler last year. Almost looked scared to mess up. Wanted no part of the ball.
This is how I feel about him too, I watch a lot of college basketball and his game is very raw offensivley for the next level, if he could get a decent jumper over time he has potential to be a valuable rotational player and possibly a guy that can "fill out" a starting lineup with his defense

I also like Markief Morris (but I like Jujuan Johnson more)

Morris plays too fast at times and is inconsistent on the box, but he is a very good rebounder on both ends, has a good looking set shot and can finish near the basket. He has the traditional size of a 4

Johnson has a great mid range game especially for a big, he is a pretty decent rebounder, but he is undersized and needs to put on 20 pounds (of mostly muscle)

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Old 02-09-2011, 02:12 PM   #6
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Seems like determining a "position of need" in the draft is a little difficult this soon before the trade deadline (or even before the season ends) - needs change...
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Maybe but look how many young guards we have right now compared to bigs, at guard we have Dojo, Roddy, and JJB, up front we only have Ian. While I agree that this could change with a trade I honestly don't see us making a move except for the exception, even though I would like us too
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so now that we know...
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in such a late draft position just draft the BPA/best talent available.

Its allready hard to find a good player and not a bust overall....
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Anyone in on inside information on when Calathes will join our rag tag bunch?
Well, his contract with Panathanaikos is good for one more year after this one - so I am hoping, 2012-13. His numbers are up across the board and he is starting for them this year.
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Well, his contract with Panathanaikos is good for one more year after this one - so I am hoping, 2012-13. His numbers are up across the board and he is starting for them this year.
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he is averaging 3.6 PPG I know it is totally different but still ... and in his last 2 games he has only played 8:19 total minutes
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