09-27-2007, 12:44 AM
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If the Lakers acquire Marion what were you guys see the Lakers finishing obviously Marion is the better player..
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09-27-2007, 01:51 AM
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Why does he want Batman money? He is robin....
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why do you want any money at all? you're a useless tumbleweed.
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09-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nash13
You got to remember that he still had pretty good point guards before Nash. He had Maubury when he was dishing out 8-9apg, and i believe he had Kidd when he 1st came into the league.
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So what? None of those guys made him a better rebounder or defender. Sure those guys got him some easy buckets here and there, but it's not like he suddenly reverts to a 10 ppg guy if he's not around a good point guard. I still don't see any reason why we shouldn't expect Marion to put up similar numbers in Los Angeles.
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09-27-2007, 08:36 AM
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Forget how good Marion is without Nash - how good will the Suns be without Marion?
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09-27-2007, 08:47 AM
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Basketball-wise it's a definite step backwards. But their luxury tax situation would improve, and that's their real motivation behind all this.
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09-27-2007, 11:14 AM
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On a Suns board they seem to be all for Marion to the Jazz for AK and Brewer... personally I don't think Marion is worth AK who has the potential to be the better overall player and a promising young guy.
Other possibilities that were thrown out: A. Jamison, R. Jefferson, L. Odom, J. Oneal, etc.
Marion would be a much better 3 for the Jazz system imo, and it seems the Suns fans think AK would be great in their system (and acquiring Brewer?)... so let's hope this doesn't happen.
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09-27-2007, 11:36 AM
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AK is in, what... his 8th year?
I don't think you can talk about him in terms of "potential" anymore...
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09-27-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DelNegro
So what? None of those guys made him a better rebounder or defender. Sure those guys got him some easy buckets here and there, but it's not like he suddenly reverts to a 10 ppg guy if he's not around a good point guard. I still don't see any reason why we shouldn't expect Marion to put up similar numbers in Los Angeles.
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I'm talking about how point guards effect his offense. Maybe it's just a coincidence he's always had a good pg. Defensively, he's always been fantastic. Rebounding wise, he was always around 9rpg until he officially became a power forward. I think Kobe can create enough for him to average the same amount of ppg. I was just pointing out Marion's connections with good pgs.
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09-27-2007, 01:49 PM
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I hope he leaves. Anything that weakens PHX is fine by me.
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09-27-2007, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash13
I'm talking about how point guards effect his offense. Maybe it's just a coincidence he's always had a good pg. Defensively, he's always been fantastic. Rebounding wise, he was always around 9rpg until he officially became a power forward. I think Kobe can create enough for him to average the same amount of ppg. I was just pointing out Marion's connections with good pgs.
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I gotcha. Good points, and I agree.
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09-27-2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsluggo
AK is in, what... his 8th year?
I don't think you can talk about him in terms of "potential" anymore...
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Marion is turning 30 years old and is entering his 9th NBA season next year
AK is turning 27 years old and is entering his 7th NBA season next year
definitely not considered "young", but definitely younger than Marion and has played a lot less minutes as well. (over 10,000 minutes in fact)
13k minutes for AK v. 23k minutes for Marion
Last edited by alby; 09-27-2007 at 07:33 PM.
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09-27-2007, 07:49 PM
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AK wants to go back to the mother country.
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09-27-2007, 07:54 PM
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go to LA..play with kobe..they will contend if he does..and if bynum grows up
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09-27-2007, 09:22 PM
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If and when Bynum grows up is still a mystery...
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09-27-2007, 09:41 PM
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bynum is never growing up
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09-27-2007, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alby
bynum is never growing up
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So the rest of the lakers are like the 'Lost Boys' or.....?
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09-28-2007, 09:20 AM
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I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
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09-28-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
So the rest of the lakers are like the 'Lost Boys' or.....?
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Toys R Us kids? =)
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09-28-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
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Odom moves well without the ball but yeah he's unbelievably good with the ball in his hands for the slash or the moving post move. Marion just does so much for them-- hard-nosed defense, shotblocking, rebounding. He does all the dirty work so Nash can play light and airy.
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09-28-2007, 12:54 PM
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Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
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09-28-2007, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Ape
Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
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Well said 'ape.. But boy o' boy, discension in phoenix land is priceless.
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09-28-2007, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Ape
Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
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This is my favorite post of yours, ever.
I couldn't agree more.
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09-29-2007, 11:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
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Yep, I hope they trade him and that they suffer in the Wins column
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09-30-2007, 08:52 AM
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Shawn Marion is only going to land with the Lakers if new Suns GM Steve Kerr is willing to take back Kwame Brown and Vlade Radmanovic. That's not happening, and the Suns aren't getting Lamar Odom for Marion, either. New York Daily News
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ROFLMAO @ Shawn Marion for Kwame Brown, yeah Suns you should definetely make that move I mean he IS a former #1 draft pick picked by M.J. So that means he has to be at least as good as M.J.
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09-30-2007, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chumdawg
If the Suns are smart, they will realize that Nash and Amare are never going to reach their true potential until they get out Marion's shadow. Just let the guy go, Suns, so your stars can get even better!
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There is no way you believe what you just wrote?
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09-30-2007, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Ape
Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
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I agree, and I will forward that same note to AK.
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