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Old 09-27-2007, 12:44 AM   #41
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If the Lakers acquire Marion what were you guys see the Lakers finishing obviously Marion is the better player..
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:51 AM   #42
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You got to remember that he still had pretty good point guards before Nash. He had Maubury when he was dishing out 8-9apg, and i believe he had Kidd when he 1st came into the league.
So what? None of those guys made him a better rebounder or defender. Sure those guys got him some easy buckets here and there, but it's not like he suddenly reverts to a 10 ppg guy if he's not around a good point guard. I still don't see any reason why we shouldn't expect Marion to put up similar numbers in Los Angeles.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:36 AM   #44
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Forget how good Marion is without Nash - how good will the Suns be without Marion?
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:47 AM   #45
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Basketball-wise it's a definite step backwards. But their luxury tax situation would improve, and that's their real motivation behind all this.
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On a Suns board they seem to be all for Marion to the Jazz for AK and Brewer... personally I don't think Marion is worth AK who has the potential to be the better overall player and a promising young guy.

Other possibilities that were thrown out: A. Jamison, R. Jefferson, L. Odom, J. Oneal, etc.

Marion would be a much better 3 for the Jazz system imo, and it seems the Suns fans think AK would be great in their system (and acquiring Brewer?)... so let's hope this doesn't happen.
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AK is in, what... his 8th year?
I don't think you can talk about him in terms of "potential" anymore...
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So what? None of those guys made him a better rebounder or defender. Sure those guys got him some easy buckets here and there, but it's not like he suddenly reverts to a 10 ppg guy if he's not around a good point guard. I still don't see any reason why we shouldn't expect Marion to put up similar numbers in Los Angeles.
I'm talking about how point guards effect his offense. Maybe it's just a coincidence he's always had a good pg. Defensively, he's always been fantastic. Rebounding wise, he was always around 9rpg until he officially became a power forward. I think Kobe can create enough for him to average the same amount of ppg. I was just pointing out Marion's connections with good pgs.
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I hope he leaves. Anything that weakens PHX is fine by me.
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I'm talking about how point guards effect his offense. Maybe it's just a coincidence he's always had a good pg. Defensively, he's always been fantastic. Rebounding wise, he was always around 9rpg until he officially became a power forward. I think Kobe can create enough for him to average the same amount of ppg. I was just pointing out Marion's connections with good pgs.
I gotcha. Good points, and I agree.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:31 PM   #51
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AK is in, what... his 8th year?
I don't think you can talk about him in terms of "potential" anymore...
Marion is turning 30 years old and is entering his 9th NBA season next year
AK is turning 27 years old and is entering his 7th NBA season next year

definitely not considered "young", but definitely younger than Marion and has played a lot less minutes as well. (over 10,000 minutes in fact)

13k minutes for AK v. 23k minutes for Marion
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I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
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I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
Odom moves well without the ball but yeah he's unbelievably good with the ball in his hands for the slash or the moving post move. Marion just does so much for them-- hard-nosed defense, shotblocking, rebounding. He does all the dirty work so Nash can play light and airy.
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Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
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Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
Well said 'ape.. But boy o' boy, discension in phoenix land is priceless.
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Note to shawn moron - stop being a p. Thank your lucky stars you got a big contract. Shut your mouth. Play basketball.
This is my favorite post of yours, ever.

I couldn't agree more.
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I sure hope they lose Marion and gain Odom...anyone who needs the ball like Odom makes me happy...because that is less time the ball is in Nash's hands.
Yep, I hope they trade him and that they suffer in the Wins column
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ROFLMAO @ Shawn Marion for Kwame Brown, yeah Suns you should definetely make that move I mean he IS a former #1 draft pick picked by M.J. So that means he has to be at least as good as M.J.
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If the Suns are smart, they will realize that Nash and Amare are never going to reach their true potential until they get out Marion's shadow. Just let the guy go, Suns, so your stars can get even better!
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I agree, and I will forward that same note to AK.
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