12-18-2014, 07:33 PM
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How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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12-18-2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi
How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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true but carisle's system isn't like that, he rotates the guards from pg to sg depending the circumstances of the game, there's gonna be times when rajon gets the ball and times when monta gets it, monta is our best player so nobody's gonna deny him the ball
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12-18-2014, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi
How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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I agree. Monta is great, but he needs the ball in his hands to be the scorer/playmaker he is. Notice earlier this season, Monta's number were down because the ball was in Nelson's hands WAYY too much.
I don't know how this gets resolved. But I trust Rick.
Last edited by Jproxursoxoff; 12-18-2014 at 07:50 PM.
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12-18-2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi
How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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Ellis has the better jump shot, so with Rondo on the floor, I'd bet on Rondo handling the ball more often than not. But if in an alternate reality, RC can go the way of Coach Kidd and use a 2 PG look, where you can disguise sets by interchangeably using Monta/Rondo. If Rondo has the weaker defender, than you use Rondo as the primary, if Ellis has the weaker defender, than Ellis becomes the primary. It takes a little of the pressure off both players being the focal point. So when opponents try to break down game film and try to look for consistencies, RC can give multiple options using either Rondo and Ellis as the primary. It just adds to the offensive options, while improving the defense at the point of initiation. Now another option, do you put Ellis on the defensive point, and allow Rondo to roam as a free safety? Or do you suffocate their point with Rondo.
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12-18-2014, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
Ellis has the better jump shot, so with Rondo on the floor, I'd bet on Rondo handling the ball more often than not. But if in an alternate reality, RC can go the way of Coach Kidd and use a 2 PG look, where you can disguise sets by interchangeably using Monta/Rondo. If Rondo has the weaker defender, than you use Rondo as the primary, if Ellis has the weaker defender, than Ellis becomes the primary. It takes a little of the pressure off both players being the focal point. So when opponents try to break down game film and try to look for consistencies, RC can give multiple options using either Rondo and Ellis as the primary. It just adds to the offensive options, while improving the defense at the point of initiation. Now another option, do you put Ellis on the defensive point, and allow Rondo to roam as a free safety? Or do you suffocate their point with Rondo.
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That is interesting about suffocating their point. I guess they can just put rondo on the more dangerous player.
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12-18-2014, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi
How does he fit offensively next to Ellis?
If Ellis continues to be the primary ball-handler and playmaker for us, then Rondo is a major offensive liability and we are playing 4 on 5. If Rondo takes those primary ball-handling duties, as a traditional point guard would, then you’re really taking away the playmaking that Monta has given us these last 2 years.
With Monta, the point guard in this offense is really more of a spot-up shooter.
Not sure how Carlisle handles this.
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Rondo is a pass first PG. I've kept up with him since he was a rookie. When the guy has options, he thinks to pass first than chucking it up like Jameer did. Rondo and Monta have the possibility to compliment each others game tremendously.
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