09-30-2009, 01:01 PM
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Read that a week ago, good laughs.
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10-05-2009, 12:30 AM
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Artest downplays Cuban's comments
Artest said he was told about Mark Cuban's comments by his "Twitter friends," in which the Dallas Mavericks owner suggested that Artest would upset the Lakers' chemistry.
"I talked to Kobe [Bryant] about it," Artest said. "He said that's what happens when you're a Laker."
In an ESPN radio interview in Dallas, Cuban said: "Could you imagine? Ron Artest has got the ball and Kobe's standing there, 'Throw me the ball.' Thank you, Ron Artest."
Artest viewed Cuban's comments as entertainment.
"As long as you can play basketball, work hard, come to work every day, get your training in, get your extra work in, I think it's important that the fans get entertained," Artest said. "It's important that Mark Cuban says stuff like that. It's great for the fans. It's something to read and it keeps it interesting.
"Nobody is really getting hurt. It's just words. I think the fans like that. That's why I love this game."
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2107463.story
I guess that's a good thing to hear that Artest doesn't hold a grudge against Cuban (if he's not just smart enough to hide his anger). No need for extra-motivation at their "home-opener"(they play the Clippers on Oct.27), and unlike K-Mart we've seen him go into the stands before.
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10-06-2009, 11:35 PM
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Yes i know why i got pretty disappointed during the draft why we didnt buy quick a early 2nd rounder to catch Blair...
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10-07-2009, 09:14 AM
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Yes i know why i got pretty disappointed during the draft why we didnt buy quick a early 2nd rounder to catch Blair...
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agree. his line was impressive (even though...against the Rockets and pre-season)
22min.....6 of 15 from the field.....19 rebounds (8 offensive / 11 def.)....2 assists...1 steal...2 turnovers
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10-07-2009, 12:13 PM
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A lot of GM's are going to be kicking themselves by passing on Blair. He had an impressive SL but we all know the competition is not the same. And while it was only against the Rockets big men (Scola, Hayes, and Landry) in his first preseason game Blair was more than impressive.
The scoring is a surprise but it comes mostly off junk baskets. Nothing wrong with that but I didn't know he had that little mid range jumper in his arsenal. Not consistent enough yet but that will come if he keeps working on it. The guys likes to eat rebounds that's for sure.
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10-07-2009, 11:28 PM
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A lot of GM's are going to be kicking themselves by passing on Blair. He had an impressive SL but we all know the competition is not the same. And while it was only against the Rockets big men (Scola, Hayes, and Landry) in his first preseason game Blair was more than impressive.
The scoring is a surprise but it comes mostly off junk baskets. Nothing wrong with that but I didn't know he had that little mid range jumper in his arsenal. Not consistent enough yet but that will come if he keeps working on it. The guys likes to eat rebounds that's for sure.
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I was going to ask what team this 'Blair' plays for, but if you're talking about it, it could only be that one team in northern mexico that everyone hates.
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10-08-2009, 12:44 AM
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Blair's FG% was utter crap for a guy that is supposed to be low-post. His rebounding was completely skewed because of his many pseudo-rebounds off a single shot, and its not that hard to get rebounds when you are the only rebounder on the floor for any team. We'll see what he can do when he is playing against real competition and with real front-court teammates.
Bonner is sitting in the mid to high post and Mahinmi is a wretched rebounder for his size.
For the Rockets, 6'9" Scola was the biggest guy out there.
Not saying he doesnt have skill, but I highly doubt he will be anywhere near as successful when he has teammates that can rebound and he is actually competing for boards with the opposing team. He has Danny Fortson minus the crazy written all over him
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10-08-2009, 12:57 AM
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Too early to call him Fortson, when he may be Bass or Big Baby.
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10-08-2009, 01:32 AM
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Fortson averaged 8.2, 7.2 on 47% shooting. If your point is that its too early to reduce him to the level of Fortson, I'd say that he'd have to work awfully hard to get to Fortson's level with that 6'6" frame (6'7" in shoes)
Fortson minus Crazy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Glen "whiney wus-bag" Davis
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10-08-2009, 02:30 AM
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I never saw Fortson as crazy. Fat and lazy...yeah, he was that, eventually. For a while he was very serviceable, though.
Blair has a chance to do something, still. And just because he's fat doesn't mean his upside is Fortson. But then again, as you said, maybe that upside wouldn't be all too bad. I'm sure Blair would love to earn what Fortson did over the course of his career.
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10-08-2009, 09:28 AM
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And even if his ceiling is a better Fortson that is less crazy, thats still a steal for a 2nd rounder...
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10-08-2009, 04:06 PM
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wat (aggen)
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10-09-2009, 10:26 AM
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This is the around the nba forum right? The place we talk about teams other than the Mavs since they have their own forum right?
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10-09-2009, 12:22 PM
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10-09-2009, 12:49 PM
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a) Wrong thread...
b) Why would we trade 1/3 of our team during the middle of training camp?
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10-09-2009, 03:40 PM
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Speaking of Fortson, any one else remember the baked potato jokes? Good times.
Here's where it all started. http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showth...n+baked+potato
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10-11-2009, 11:48 PM
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Blair, 28 points on 11-13 shooting (15 points in the last 6 1/2 minutes of the game) to lead the Spurs over the Heat 95-93.
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10-12-2009, 12:04 AM
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I know Pop got on him about the 4 rebounds though. lol
The kids crazy good and he's only 20 years old. I hope his knees hold up because he's fun to watch.
I had no idea about that mid range jumper he's been showing off. His passing skills are better than advertised and he has a knack for drawing fouls. But he's definitely a Spur with those missed ft's.
It'll be interesting to see how progresses and adjusts to the season.
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10-12-2009, 12:58 PM
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Hollins trying to seduce a high profile raptor:
Bosh's arms say no, but his lips say yes
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10-12-2009, 07:58 PM
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Its cold and chilly along that Canada border. I'm glad the two of them got to warm it up.
Anyway, whats up with Anthony Morrow. The guy is absolutely beastly and no one is talking about him. 54%/48%/93% 20pts, 3reb, 2ast so far in preseason (including a 30point game) and put up great percentages last year too.
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10-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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Anyway, whats up with Anthony Morrow. The guy is absolutely beastly and no one is talking about him. 54%/48%/93% 20pts, 3reb, 2ast so far in preseason (including a 30point game) and put up great percentages last year too.
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Because he is playing under Nelson. Nelson can find talent, but many of Nelson's players have a hard time finding the same magic in other systems. Also, under Nellie, a guy who can be on fire one month, pre-all star break, full year... can crash and burn the next when he gets in Nellie's doghouse.
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10-12-2009, 08:25 PM
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Erica, I agree with on Morrow. I know he's not the only undrafted player to make some noise but I think he's a real talent. He plays so hard and wants to get better. He makes shooting look so easy and he's just fun to watch. The defense isn't bad either.
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10-12-2009, 11:18 PM
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watching the clippers v golden state. Bdiddy is back ladies and gentlemen
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10-12-2009, 11:50 PM
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watching the clippers v golden state. Bdiddy is back ladies and gentlemen
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Don't worry. He won't stay long.
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10-13-2009, 12:41 AM
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Don't worry. He won't stay long.
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lol. He's playing that bully-ish point guard he played the year they faced us. He's attacking with his body. Also claims he's slimmed down from 230 lbs last yr to 212. we'll see but terrific second half from him tonight as they erase a 15pt deficit to control the game in the fourth
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10-13-2009, 02:58 AM
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Bdiddy is back ladies and gentlemen
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I don't think any of us missed him.
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10-13-2009, 09:44 AM
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Did you see Morrow's line for the night?
32 pts, 10-16, 6-8, 6-6, 5 rbs, 4 as, 1 to, 4 stls, 2 blks
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10-13-2009, 01:24 PM
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Details of S.Jackson-D.Nelson on-court confrontation
Warriors update: Details of the Stephen Jackson-Don Nelson on-court confrontation
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...confrontation/
* 10:54 p.m. update: Marcus Thompson II talks to Stephen Jackson, who says his outburst happened when he felt the coaching staff didn’t have his back while he was picking up fouls guarding Kobe Bryant. SJax also said he’d report to the team and be a professional, but clearly is still hoping to be traded. Hmm, sounds familiar, but very interesting. Excellent get by MT-2.
* Stephen Jackson, Don Nelson and Larry Riley are supposedly meeting tomorrow, when the Warriors have their first practice at home after a long LA road trip. This will be interesting.
-According to a highly-placed NBA source, Stephen Jackson’s two-game suspension was the result of a multi-stage confrontation with Don Nelson during Friday’s game in Los Angeles.
First, as Jackson was in the process of picking up five fouls in about nine minutes guarding Kobe Bryant–and not getting pulled by Nelson–a seething Jackson screamed that he was sick and tired of receiving no support from the Warriors (or Nelson).
At this point, Jackson was presumably referring to Nelson not standing up for Jackson with the replacement referees, or not taking him out when he was in obvious foul trouble.
The source said that Jackson’s fury was understood to include the bigger picture–that the Warriors weren’t supporting him with promised player additions and maybe that Nelson wasn’t supporting him, generally. (Of course, Jackson has publicly asked to be traded and has yet not been traded.)
That outburst, alone, would not have gotten Jackson suspended.
But, according to the source, the more serious incident occurred moments later, when Nelson was trying to calm Jackson down.
Nelson told Jackson to head back to the locker room, take a shower and cool down.
Nelson apparently also put his hand on Jackson at the same time, to settle the situation (he thought).
Jackson immediately roughly brushed off Nelson’s hand, and, according to the source, told him loudly never to do that again and included many more angry words directed at Nelson.
Jackson went to the locker room and stayed there, apparently without further incident. But Warriors management apparently was concerned enough to keep Jackson away from Nelson for at least a few hours.
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10-13-2009, 08:44 PM
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Did you see Morrow's line for the night?
32 pts, 10-16, 6-8, 6-6, 5 rbs, 4 as, 1 to, 4 stls, 2 blks
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The guy is talented. You can laugh off that its in Nelson's system or that he's on a losing team, but no one shoots 56%/55%/95% on accident. Those are astounding shooting numbers.
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10-13-2009, 05:56 PM
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So much for Jackson maturing and putting his attitude behind him. His contract is not that friendly so throw in the on/off court antics and some teams won't bother taking a chance on him. He's not really helping his cause especially if the Warriors stand firm on getting fair value for him.
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Carlisle knows that attitude first hand.
And for what its worth, Artest may have inhereted all the blame for the famous brawl, but Jackson acted the worst of any player out there. When the fight first started amongst the players he was tearing at his shirt and had to be held back by Carlisle. After hell broke loose, he just ran up into the stands windmilling one fan and slamming another fan's head into the fold-up portion of a seat. After Artest knocked one guy down, Jackson repeatedly punched the fan in the face while he was down and was still punching when staff pulled him away then began kidney punching some other fan as he was pulled toward the tunnel. He didn't even care who he hit. Even after he was escorted off, he pulled off his shirt and was reported to have repeatedly scream that he was going to kill someone. Its one thing to have a quick fuse, its another to be a powder keg ready to go off at any time with no safety and no turn-off nob.
Nelson may have a reputation for angering players with his low-support, sometimes illogical tactics and dont-question-me attitude, but that response from Jackson was ridiculous.
I'm personally glad that we had nothing to do with Jackson and hope we dont change our minds either. Jackson is as angry as Artest is eccentric (insane) and thats not what we need on this team. We already have Howard who can require some kid gloves at times. We dont need to be the 90s Jailblazers to compete in the conference finals.
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10-14-2009, 12:06 PM
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I don't laugh it off. He's put up numbers like these in the regular season so it's not some fluke preseason showcasing.
He became one of my favorite players last season. I like his attitude and he doesn't take any of it for granted.
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10-14-2009, 01:50 PM
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I don't think anybody laughs it off. Nellie found him another one. Just like he found Strickland, Azuibike(sp) and probably a ton of others that I'm forgetting. Even Watson was a pretty good find.
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i laugh
bwahahahhahahahah
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10-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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Jackson also dislikes teammates, refs, Kobe
Things are getting real ugly in GS
Among the gems in this article.....
He called out his teammates
(Bryant) was just playing dirty
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Jackson also dislikes teammates, refs, Kobe
Rusty Simmons, Chronicle Staff Writer
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SP9D1A5N01.DTL
(10-14) 21:49 PDT -- Warriors coach Don Nelson said Wednesday that he wouldn't be offering daily updates on Stephen Jackson's mood, but that didn't stop the disgruntled swingman from spouting off once again.
A day after abandoning his captaincy, speaking of a strained relationship with Nelson and reiterating that he wants out of Golden State, Jackson went a step further. He called out his teammates for the first time this season.
"Nobody reacted but me, so the team didn't have a reaction," Jackson said after practice Wednesday, referring to his emotionally charged matchup with Kobe Bryant on Friday. "It was only me standing up for myself. I don't think anybody else stood up for me.
"But if the shoe were on the other foot, I would have stood up for somebody on my team, and they didn't do the same for me."
Jackson wanted someone - the coaching staff or his teammates - to back him when he and Bryant tussled through the preseason game's opening 10 minutes. Instead, Jackson picked up five personal fouls and a technical, got into a shouting match with Nelson on the sideline, was sent to the locker room and later was suspended for two games.
"To beat a dead horse, (Bryant) was just playing dirty," Jackson said. "He was getting favoritism out there. I'm not saying the refs were cheating. I'm not saying that at all. I think he was getting away with stuff that I couldn't get away with, and I didn't think it was fair.
"So I reacted on it, and if it happens again, I'm going to react the same way."
If that wasn't enough, Jackson set himself up for a potentially precarious rematch with Bryant. The Warriors play the Lakers again Tuesday in Ontario (San Bernardino County).
"I'm not a fan of Kobe. I'm not somebody who looks up to him," Jackson said. "I'm a grown man, so when I go out there and play the game, I play the game. I feel like I'm just as good as him. I might not get the publicity or the notoriety he gets, but I feel like I can play with anybody in the NBA.
"I think everybody should feel like that. Everybody should be a competitor, and I don't back down from anybody. I've never been like that, and I'm not going to start today."
Options exercised: The Warriors made official their decisions to pick up the fourth-year option on Brandan Wright and the third-year option on Anthony Randolph, keeping both players through at least the 2010-11 season.
Under the terms of the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, the first two years of a first-round draft pick's contract are guaranteed, with the team having options for the third and fourth years. Wright will make $3.398 million and Randolph will make $1.966 million in 2010-11.
"They're both intriguing young players," Nelson said. "They still need to develop, and we assume that they're going to do that. We like both of them very much, and we think we have a nice anchor position at (power forward) now."
Injury updates: The Warriors were down to nine players at Wednesday's practice, with seven players sitting out with injuries or illness. ... Randolph missed his second consecutive practice with a bruised lower back but said he expects to play in the Warriors' next preseason game, which is Saturday at Sacramento. ... Ronny Turiaf and Devean George continued to rehab with sore left knees. ... Acie Law sat out with a sprained left ankle. ... Mikki Moore was sick. ... Kelenna Azubuike was not listed on the team's injury report, but he missed practice, presumably with the sprained left ankle that caused him to miss the second preseason game. ... Wright could miss as much as six months after shoulder surgery Friday.
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10-18-2009, 07:22 PM
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Anyone thinking that Larry Riley is a total amateur in over his head and that Donnie is running a madhouse in Oakland?
1) Jackson is going off and Golden State is saying that they want to receive a star in return for him? I mean its one thing to try to up a players worth but another to have ridiculously overhyped value on a player that needs to go ASAP.
2) Ellis is going nuts and wants out too, and has made public announcements that he wont play with the other two-dozen 1/2 tweeners that Nelson has put together.
3) They now have Acie Law penciled in to play SF at 6'3". They throw 6'2" Ellis, 6'5" Morrow and 6'3" Law, with 6'6" Maggette That team isn't small ball. Its midget ball.
4) They are inundated with guards, and refuse to trade any of them. Our buddy Otis makes an offer on the low-end of fair for a guy that won't see much PT, and gets refused so he goes and cries about it to the press that its something personal about him.
In the mean time Ellis 6'3", Curry 6'2", Watson 6'2",Law 6'3", and 5'11" Claxton are all looking for minutes with Morrow 6'5" starting to take off, Azuibuke 6'5" already looking good. All those guys want and demand minutes. Ellis is their star starter. Curry is their first rounder. Watson they re-signed because they said he was developing (and then refused to trade to Orlando). Even if they push Acie Law, Morrow and Azuibuke up to SF, thats still a total logjam of young talent that will fester and become unhappy if not developed. Claxton is the only one who knows he's a reserve. Everyone else feels like they are a starter or at least worthy of 25mpg. What a total mess.
Its like the Warriors heard the phrase "you can never have too many bigmen" and thought it meant 1/2 tweeners with good size for the 1 and below average height for the 2. Nelson has done a nice job putting together a LOT of high potential young guys but they all play the same position since none of them are natural PGs. His veteran core is either staying away or revolting, and his young guys are realizing that the roster is a timebomb.
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3) They now have Acie Law penciled in to play SF at 6'3". They throw 6'2" Ellis, 6'5" Morrow and 6'3" Law, with 6'6" Maggette That team isn't small ball. Its midget ball.
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I propose trading Barea for SJax, straight up. It sounds like he'd fit right in.
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Im pretty sure Donnie loves Barea.
Im little bit scared about Cleveland, i can see them pickung up Jax...
Dont know, i think i still prefer us to get Jax than another contender...
Someone ina another fourm told that the 07 series was the worst thing that could happened to the warriors.
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