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Old 05-27-2007, 03:15 PM   #1
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If anyone did not already know the Lakers franchise is in a corrupt situation. Kobe might demand a trade out if the Lakers do not make big changes.

now the only thing that would make me feel good about this is bringing Kobe to pair him up with Dirk.

what package can we put together? i'm sure Devin Harris or Josh will be part of the package but i think it's worth it. i don't want Kobe to be a Laker anymore.
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Maybe they'd take Dampier and the 34th pick.
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harris, howard, future 1st, diop.. and make the money work.

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I'd trade anyone but Dirk.

Well actually, I'd probably be willing to part with Dirk if a third team was involved and we became a better overall team because of the trade.. but you KNOW that the Lakers wouldn't trade for Dirk, because he isn't a marquee name that would increase profits..
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Josh, Harris, pick and a filler will be just fine. I'm just wondering how the Mav fans will treat him though.
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Josh, Harris, pick and a filler will be just fine. I'm just wondering how the Mav fans will treat him though.
Winning shuts everyone up. If we win with him, great. If we fall apart, it will all be blamed on him, and rightfully so. Do we know how Dirk will react to being second fiddle again? It would definitely be an interesting combo.
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and btw, if the deal is JHo, Harris, filler then you'd have to do it.
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If this happened, it'd be over. Even if our starting lineup looked like:

Avery
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MMMMMbenga!

Over. Just over. Surrender, NBA.
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when i first opened thread i laughed. now i want it.
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You usually trade anything on your team to get the best player in the world.
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I would not root for Dallas if this happened. And as far as I know Kobe hasnt proven anything yet. He is in the same catagory as T Mac and Pierce and those others if you take away years with Shaq.
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Hearing word that Kobe is asking the Logo to come back to LA..
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It's true rabbitproof. hes asked the Lakers to get West in here or to get traded.
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George, Buckner, Ager, Terry, Dampier, for their Kobe and Byumn.
Must keep Dirk and JHo!!!!!!!
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Best player in the world or not I'm not willing to give away Howard/Harris/Nowitzki, business or not I have too much respect and hope on these guys. And to trade with LA... NO!
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Pffft... LA wouldn't trade Shaq to us. If Kobe gets traded, he's going East.
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I'd trade anyone but Dirk, even though I hate Kobe you have to do this deal if it presents itself. That being said, there is no way this happens.
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Oh dear Lord if this is possible....well....Kobe is REALLY REALLY good. If we could give up all but Dirk and put Dirk beside Kobe, well, I honestly don't think this team could be stopped. With Jet running the point, Kobe at the 2, MLE/Stack at the 3, Dirk at the 4, and Damp/Diop at the 5... Well... We will need to clear some space for the banners around here, thats all I have to say!
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Just say no to KOBE

Not that he isn't great, and all that. I just enjoy rooting against him, and I couldn't if he was a Mav.
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Gotta say it dalm... That is a pretty stupid reason to prevent the banner parade from coming to town!
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I have yet to hear a rational explanation for why LA would trade Kobe to Dallas.
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Well of course KG... It will NOT happen, (to Dallas anyway).
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The only way I´d like to see Kobe in big D is when he faces the Mavs in a playoff series, because we will advance over him every given day ...
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Well of course KG... It will NOT happen, (to Dallas anyway).
It will not happen, period. I don't see any way they trade Kobe and get better.
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It is sad that some of you with hatred for this man prevents you from wanting to win championships. Sure, if we were the Spurs and had proven that with this nucleus you COULD win it all, (not get there - win it all), then sure, avoid a team blowup. But for THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA you have to make the move if it means keeping Dirk knowing that you have never won it all the other way. You simply have to.
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It is sad that some of you with hatred for this man prevents you from wanting to win championships. Sure, if we were the Spurs and had proven that with this nucleus you COULD win it all, (not get there - win it all), then sure, avoid a team blowup. But for THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA you have to make the move if it means keeping Dirk knowing that you have never won it all the other way. You simply have to.
If Kobe were available and the Lakers didn't require Dirk in return, then it would be insane not to do the deal.
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It will not happen, period. I don't see any way they trade Kobe and get better.
If he demands a trade they'd probably trade him for the best package. Devin+Josh+Diop+picks might get it done.
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Absolutely KG... Absolutely. No GM ever - EVER - under ANY circumstances - EVER - would stop that trade from passing if it meant keeping Dirk but losing your 2nd and 4th/5th best players plus a pick and maybe filler. You keep Fing Terry in the scenario above and still some pass? Geez...

I would trade Terry, Harris, Howard, and a couple of 1st round picks for Kobe. He is just that damn good. MLE PG/Draft, Kobe/Buck, Stack/LLE, Dirk/Cro, Damp/Diop... That team is leaps and bounds better than our team last year because we have TWO SUPERSTARS with several years left. Your defense improves, your offense improves... You are a better team. Sure, you lose some depth, but so the hell what. As long as an injury is avoided by the big 2, you are set. Now, if Terry stays and you can use the MLE on a SF instead - WOW!
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Again, all of this is shit but imagine this lineup:

Terry
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Damp/Diop

Defense EVERYWHERE, (Kobe, Mason, and Damp/Diop all very good/great defenders).
Offense EVERYWHERE, (4 of those 5 could put up 20 very regularly with some of them able to score 50-80 on their best nights).
Athleticism EVERYWHERE, (Kobe and Mason are crazy in the athleticism dept.).

You still have Stack, Cro, Diop, Buck, LLE, draft, etc... on bench.

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I actually think LA gets better too... It is better to have several very good players than one superstar surrounded by mediocre players.

Bynum
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Howard
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Harris

A lot of guys taking it to the hoop. Odom, Howard, and Harris would all be driving as much as possible. I don't know how this triangle offense would work though without a great SG. If Terry was part of the deal, the Dallas Lakers would look pretty good:

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Exactly, well said Dan. With Dirk and Kobe we'd have two superstars. If you have a chance to pair the BEST player in the game with the 4th best player in the game, while keeping a sharpshooter like Terry there is no way you turn it down, and no way you don't win a championship within a couple years.
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Couple my ass... Couple of championships plus 1 or 2, but not a couple of years BEFORE they won.
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By the way... I know you aren't a homer enough to suggest Dirk is the best player in the game, so who do you have as #2 and #3 ahead of Dirk?
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I guess it comes down to this. Kobe Bryant might just end up retiring the greatest NBA player in the history of the game - if his personal transgressions don't stand in the common fans way of looking at his abilities and accomplishments on the court. With as much talent as we have in todays game, to go completely off and to be as clutch as he is while also being very very good defensively, (the handful of you that always want to chant that he is overrated defensively are complete morons), well, only Michael is standing in his way now.

This man is GREAT. If I had to vote right now on who the 2nd greatest NBA player of all time was it would be Kobe Bryant. I don't like Kobe the person. I think he is a terrible human being. But he is a TREMENDOUS talent. He can shoot the 3 so well, (quickly, someone get stats proving otherwise - remember, he always seems to make the ones he needs to). He is great at the line. He is great on the drive. He is unstoppable barring triple teams, (which we had to deploy to slow him in our wins this year - who could do that to us with Dirk by the way). He is a very very good defender when he truly puts his mind to it.

Put him with Dirk and I swear on Sike's Alien Lord that Dallas would win a championship EVERY SINGLE YEAR until they were split or until Dirk took a serious nose dive barring injury.
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I equate cheering for kobe to worshiping satan!!! That being said if he were traded to the mavericks sign me up for the dark side
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Hahaha... Yeah, I know what you mean wes... Seriously!

Some of you have accused me of having serious man love for this man but I truly don't like the person at all. I am just not a homer that can't recognize true talent. He is gifted almost beyond comparison - again, IMHO only Jordan stands in his way as being the best player of all time.
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Howard and Harris would be appealing to the Lakers... wouldn't it? Throw anything else but Dirk in there to get it done. He is the best player in the league, it's worth taking a 'chance' on although I think Dirk + Kobe would instantly give you a 60 win team and regular elite playoff contender.

If theres any shot in hell get it done... but really, Howard and Harris to join Bynum and Odom would give the Lakers a nice young core. Who else would be able to offer a good package for Kobe?
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Several teams could.... one in particular that I'm thinking of is Minnesota. But I highly doubt the Lakers will trade him... if they did I even more highly doubt it would be to an existing elite team (ie... the Mavericks) without it including the one guy we all don't want to let go of.
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Not that the lakers are ever going to trade Kobe, but if they were, it would take Dirk to get him. If Kobe's on the market the lakers would certainly be offered packages that would get them a better player than Josh Howard.
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