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SMC0007 · 06-27-2013, 10:08 AM

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The point is that he wants to be a featured player on offense, or at least wants to play in a system that's conducive to his style of play. I think the pairing with Nowitzki is only natural.

The times the Lakers went Gasol/Howard high-low last year, they were extremely effective. They really suffered in the pick and roll game (which makes it curious as to why Howard wants to play with Paul so badly) and the Kobe-isolation game. The Harden isolation and the Lin/Harden pick and roll game are staples of the Rockets game, while the Mavericks have had a lot of success working inside out and moving the ball around the perimeter (a la the Spurs this year).

Semi fast break a trailing Dirk pulls up at the 3 and the PF has to close out, Howard has 1on1 in the paint. Dirk dumps it down to him...Dunk. Repeat.

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 10:19 AM

We've already seen how Dirk and a legit big work together. Miami saw all they wanted to see as well.

LonghornDub · 06-27-2013, 10:20 AM

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Seriously has to be one of the worst articles by CB. So he wants to leave LA for the same situation in Dallas?

Bit confused here. It's the "worst" because...you think the factual premise can't possibly be true?

I'm no Chris Broussard fan, but that's sure a strange reason to criticize a journalist.

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 10:20 AM

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Bit confused here. It's the "worst" because...you think the factual premise can't possibly be true?

I'm no Chris Broussard fan, but that's sure a strange reason to criticize a journalist.

Closet Lakers fan IMO.

nowhereman · 06-27-2013, 10:43 AM

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Semi fast break a trailing Dirk pulls up at the 3 and the PF has to close out, Howard has 1on1 in the paint. Dirk dumps it down to him...Dunk. Repeat.

yessir

yahyes · 06-27-2013, 11:06 AM

Lets give it a shot for Dwight to play with Dirk!

rabbitproof · 06-27-2013, 11:32 AM

I BELIEVEEEEEEEEEEEE..

tsar · 06-27-2013, 11:37 AM

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Lets give it a shot for Dwight to play with Dirk!

If Dwight saw this comment his ego centrism will immediately eliminate the Mavs from signing him.

It should read like this:

"Let's give it a shot for Dirk to play with the spectacular, best player ever, center piece of every team, Dwight "Superman" Howard!"

Stroke that ego Cubes... and whatever else you might have to.

j0Shi · 06-27-2013, 01:52 PM

http://www.lakersnation.com/terrifie...re/2013/06/27/

lulz

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 02:03 PM

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http://www.lakersnation.com/terrifie...re/2013/06/27/

lulz

Surely we can't lose Dwight to the armpit of Texas that is Houston?

j0Shi · 06-27-2013, 02:11 PM

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Surely we can't lose Dwight to the armpit of Texas that is Houston?

That would be embarrassing.

DTownKidd · 06-27-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Bit confused here. It's the "worst" because...you think the factual premise can't possibly be true?

I'm no Chris Broussard fan, but that's sure a strange reason to criticize a journalist.

It is just such a reach. I know all of the free agency speculation is pretty much a guessing game, but this article is nothing but BS. Dwight could dominate in a role like Amare which D'Antoni made happen.

I think that he will leave LA. The problem with signing here is that he seemingly has to sacrifice a season for the CHANCE at acquiring another star in 2014. Sure, Dirk, D12, and another star is a championship caliber team...in 2015, but a team of Dirk, Dwight, VC, Mayo doesn't really exceed what he has currently in LA.

All he is doing is throwing Dallas into the article to hit the SEOs and get more clicks in multiple markets.

DTownKidd · 06-27-2013, 08:05 PM

On top of that to say that Houston's offense doesn't fit D12 is stupid. Why would they not have more post play for D12 rather than Asik? McHale was a great post player and should be able to incorporate some post play for a player that has some skill as compared to almost 0.

OneLove22 · 06-27-2013, 09:19 PM

What would Houston have to shed to get D12? Plus, they have $51 mil committed next season. Add D12 to that and you have no room to improve. Does D12 want that Houston squad? Asik at $15 mil?

If he moves to Dallas then he has a clean slate to grow with.

Underdog · 06-27-2013, 09:27 PM

@BallinWithBryan: Mavs needed to trim $3.83m to be in position to sign Howard to a max contract with a first-year salary of $20.51 million. $2,737,280 short.

chumdawg · 06-27-2013, 10:48 PM

UD, you seriously need to learn some decorum when it comes to posting other people's work wholesale.

Underdog · 06-27-2013, 10:52 PM

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UD, you seriously need to learn some decorum when it comes to posting other people's work wholesale.

WTF is your problem now? You seem more interested in talking about how I post than anything actually having to do with basketball.

saclare · 06-28-2013, 09:42 AM

I don't think there's a problem with how he posted Bryan's tweet...there's no incentive to how many visits a persons twitter page gets. And if they like that tweet, there's his handle to go and follow.

DTownKidd · 06-28-2013, 10:51 AM

Friend in real estate down in Houston says Dwight has a meeting at one of his houses today. Take it fwiw

Underdog · 06-28-2013, 10:59 AM

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Friend in real estate down in Houston says Dwight has a meeting at one of his houses today. Take it fwiw

Seems like he'd want to sign a contract before signing a mortgage, since all sorts of crazy things can happen in this league... But that would be the sensible thing to do, and Dwight isn't exactly known for his sensibility.

Of course, putting stock into rumors generated by "my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" isn't very sensible either, so I'm sure you can understand when I say that I'm going to take this rumor with a massive grain of salt.

ribosoma · 06-28-2013, 11:03 AM

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Friend in real estate down in Houston says Dwight has a meeting at one of his houses today. Take it fwiw

Will George Seifert be with him?

spreedom · 06-28-2013, 11:28 AM

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Seems like he'd want to sign a contract before signing a mortgage, since all sorts of crazy things can happen in this league... But that would be the sensible thing to do, and Dwight isn't exactly known for his sensibility.

Of course, putting stock into rumors generated by "my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" isn't very sensible either, so I'm sure you can understand when I say that I'm going to take this rumor with a massive grain of salt.

I approve of phrases like this.

SMC0007 · 06-28-2013, 11:30 AM

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Seems like he'd want to sign a contract before signing a mortgage, since all sorts of crazy things can happen in this league... But that would be the sensible thing to do, and Dwight isn't exactly known for his sensibility.

Of course, putting stock into rumors generated by "my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" isn't very sensible either, so I'm sure you can understand when I say that I'm going to take this rumor with a massive grain of salt.

I'm almost offended by your lack of fall for this shit-tedness.

mavs777 · 06-28-2013, 11:41 AM

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Friend in real estate down in Houston says Dwight has a meeting at one of his houses today. Take it fwiw

He's waiting till 10th to make his decision so I don't see this as anything other than getting a head start just in case he chooses Houston. If he already had a decision made he would announce on the first.

DTownKidd · 06-28-2013, 11:52 AM

Again...rumor! It was luck that it is a friends real estate company he is looking through. He could very well be coming to Dallas right after or may even have been here already.

OneLove22 · 06-28-2013, 11:59 AM

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Friend in real estate down in Houston says Dwight has a meeting at one of his houses today. Take it fwiw

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=240374

sefant77 · 06-28-2013, 12:03 PM

Guess everyone is friend with that dude that knows the dude that shows the house...blablabla

BGMaverick9 · 06-28-2013, 12:04 PM

All I can say is that they're going to be very creative with their pitch to Dwight.

OneLove22 · 06-28-2013, 12:06 PM

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All I can say is that they're going to be very creative with their pitch to Dwight.

Cuban slippin bills under the table? Maybe a Maybach?

ribosoma · 06-28-2013, 12:21 PM

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All I can say is that they're going to be very creative with their pitch to Dwight.

Sky-diving strippers?

Underdog · 06-28-2013, 12:23 PM

Looks like Howard has already scheduled The Decision 2.0...

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Dwight Howard To Reveal His Choice July 10

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HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – At least we have a date now.

July 10, nine days after the NBA’s free agency free-for-all begins and the day the league’s moratorium on players signing new contracts is lifted, we should know exactly where Dwight Howard is headed.

The Los Angeles Lakers’ All-Star center, the top free agent target of the summer, will have his process wrapped up and a decision made between suitors that include the Lakers, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, Atlanta Hawks and others, per Dave McMenamin of ESPNLosAngeles.com:

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A source close to the All-Star center told ESPNLosAngeles.com that Howard expects to be ready to choose his team as soon as the NBA’s moratorium on new business is lifted July 10.

That information jibed with [Lakers GM Mitch] Kupchak‘s thinking. That information jibed with [Lakers GM Mitch] Kupchak‘s thinking.

“It’s in everybody’s best interest, I think, to proceed in a timely fashion,” he said. “I don’t think it’s Dwight’s goal to drag it out. Whether he’s with us or with another team, everybody this time of year has business to take care of. If he’s here, he wants us to know that so we can build around him in this period of free agency, when it moves very quickly, and if he’s with somebody else, that team is going to want the same thing. “It’s in everybody’s best interest, I think, to proceed in a timely fashion,” he said. “I don’t think it’s Dwight’s goal to drag it out. Whether he’s with us or with another team, everybody this time of year has business to take care of. If he’s here, he wants us to know that so we can build around him in this period of free agency, when it moves very quickly, and if he’s with somebody else, that team is going to want the same thing.

“If you’re Dwight, you would want the same thing as well. You would want to give your team notice as quick as possible so they can make the changes that they need to make to make your team more effective. So I think it’s in everybody’s best interest to move as quick as possible.”

Rumblings that Howard is not likely to return to the Lakers will no doubt intensify as he entertains his other suitors, but Kupchak does not sound like a man who is ready to surrender.

In fact, he’s seems far more confident than you’d expect, given the trail of crumbs that suggest Howard isn’t particularly fond of Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni and the way he was used in conjunction with Lakers’ stars Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash and Pau Gasol during the team’s tumultuous 2012-13 season.

But you’d be confident, too, with a $30 million card in your hand that no one else could play. He told ESPNLosAngeles.com that the team will continue their measured pursuit, which includes strategically placed billboards around the city encouraging Howard to stick around, in the days and hours leading up to the July 1 open of free agency:

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“I don’t think anything dramatic is going to take place on June 30 at 9:01 [p.m. PT] regarding Dwight,” Kupchak said. “My understanding is there are several other teams that have great interest and he’s going to have a process that I understand to be pretty deliberate that he’s going to go through, and we’ll be involved in that process and we’ll see how it plays out.”

Howard has already received some backlash from Lakers fans who have taken a good-riddance attitude, but Kupchak said he believes that will change. Howard has already received some backlash from Lakers fans who have taken a good-riddance attitude, but Kupchak said he believes that will change.

“I’m not worried about that,” he said. “Kobe’s been back for seven or eight years now. What did people think about him? There was a period where Kobe was earning his stripes in Los Angeles. I think when he came back, he had to continue. Here it is, seven, eight or nine years later, and I think that’s what would happen with Dwight once he puts his roots down and says, ‘This is the place I want to be.’ “I’m not worried about that,” he said. “Kobe’s been back for seven or eight years now. What did people think about him? There was a period where Kobe was earning his stripes in Los Angeles. I think when he came back, he had to continue. Here it is, seven, eight or nine years later, and I think that’s what would happen with Dwight once he puts his roots down and says, ‘This is the place I want to be.’

“I think that’s part of the problem. I think the city feels they were renting him for a year. But the reality is he couldn’t sign an extension. Financially, the rules provide that he wait until July 1 to get the best deal he could possibly get. It was one of those situations where please tell us you want to be here and please show us you want to be here. But he can’t do it until July 1. I think that’s part of it. Of course the way the season went didn’t help things either.”

With the clock formally ticking for Howard’s services, you can bet the teams interested in moving him out of California will do what they can to sway him. This is already true for the Mavericks, whose superstar, Dirk Nowitzki, has talked with Howard on his own volition to gauge Howard’s interest, writes Dwain Price of the Star-Telegram:

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On Monday, Howard will become one of the most coveted unrestricted free agents in NBA history. And the Mavs want to make him their new franchise player and turn their current franchise player, Nowitzki, into their No. 2 option.

It’s a philosophy Nowitzki, who turned 35 last week, has easily bought into. That’s why he’s already had a conversation with Howard about a union in Dallas.

“I reached out to him and told him we’d love to have him,” Nowitzki said. “It’s not like we call each other every day.

“I didn’t write him a letter. We just had a little phone contact. That’s about it.”

With Howard patrolling the middle for the Mavs, Nowitzki knows he would have an excellent shot at winning another NBA championship before he retires.

“To me, when he’s healthy he’s the most dominant big man in the league,” Nowitzki said of Howard. “He’s shown that at the end of the season when he was right what he can still do.

“He can dominate on both ends of the floor if he feels healthy, he can still use his athleticism. He’s a beast on both ends of the floor.”

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“He’s the kind of guy you can just get the ball to in the post, and I’ll just spread the floor,” Nowitzki said. “On the defensive end, he’s a guy that can protect the rim and a guy that’s obviously a luxury.

“We’d love to have him, but so would all of the other teams with cap room. I’ll just wait and see what happens.”

The next 12 days should be an interesting ride for all involved, especially for the Lakers and their fans!

LonghornDub · 06-28-2013, 12:40 PM

Dwight spotted house-hunting in Houston today. I suspect that Houston is ahead presently, but I absolutely think Cuban and friends have a real shot to change Howard's mind with a properly calculated sales pitch.

BGMaverick9 · 06-28-2013, 12:58 PM

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Sky-diving strippers?

No, but they're ready.

Underdog · 06-28-2013, 01:02 PM

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Dwight spotted house-hunting in Houston today.

Interesting rumor, but Jarrod Rudolph implied that he was hanging out with Dwight Howard at UCLA campus today...

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tim moorehead ‏@megastahr: @JRudolphSports hey any chance the rumors of howard is house shopping in houston are true?

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports: UCLA is NOT in Houston. At least it wasn't this morning.

sefant77 · 06-28-2013, 01:09 PM

july 10? is he stupid? why wasting so much time of the fa period. Time his team will need to get other trades/player...

mavs777 · 06-28-2013, 01:09 PM

RT @AlexKennedyNBA: Contrary to reports, Dwight Howard isn't in Houston looking at houses. He's in LA, working out at UCLA. Not sure how that rumor started.

LonghornDub · 06-28-2013, 01:10 PM

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Interesting rumor, but Jarrod Rudolph implied that he was hanging out with Dwight Howard at UCLA campus today...

I'm sure that's right. Some idiot Houston realtor just thought he'd make some nonsense up.

Underdog · 06-28-2013, 01:12 PM

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I'm sure that's right. Some idiot Houston realtor just thought he'd make some nonsense up.

Twitter makes it easy to make stuff up and spread it like wildfire.

rabbitproof · 06-28-2013, 01:15 PM

Still need to clear up 3M.. could Howard agree and then we act or would we make moves first?

Marion's ETO is due today.

ribosoma · 06-28-2013, 01:16 PM

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I'm sure that's right. Some idiot Houston realtor just thought he'd make some nonsense up.

Or the nightclub owner where he supposedly reserved a table. Ah, the double-edged sword of social media; unfiltered useful info, and unfiltered fairytales started by a dude wearing his mom's nightgown, living in her basement.