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Jack.Kerr · 07-30-2019, 05:03 PM

Knicks' 'shot doctor' trying to save Dennis Smith Jr.

Jack.Kerr · 10-03-2019, 06:51 AM

NYKnicks Put Dennis Smith On a Diet As Ntilikina Dominates FIBA: Fizdale (paraphrased) 'Last season's offense was way dumbed down because Smith was fat and out-of-shape, and couldn't run more complex sets'.

EricaLubarsky · 10-04-2019, 01:56 PM

Luka official measurement" 6'7.5"
Zion official measurement 6'6"

Jack.Kerr · 10-05-2019, 10:56 PM

Far more interesting questions are:

1) when the Mavericks got rid of Luka;

2) when they acquired Zion;
3) when they traded Zion

NeedlesKane · 10-05-2019, 11:26 PM

Not even the least bit funny Jack.Kerr.

Jack.Kerr · 10-24-2019, 10:24 AM

With Sarah Palin as Speechwriter

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Dennis Smith Jr. was the first off the bench but struggled. The 21-year-old, who represents the biggest piece acquired in the trade for Kristaps Porzingis (and therefore very significant to the front office), shot just 1-of-4 in 10 minutes before Fizdale called it quits. When Payton succumbed to foul trouble in the third quarter, Fizdale went to Ntilikina instead. Ntilikina also underwhelmed in his three-minute cameo while committing two turnovers.

Smith hasn’t looked well since injuring his back before the first preseason game and said he can’t worry about not starting.

“With situations like that, my faith is in me. My faith is in the work that I put in. And everything that I do. And I know that everything will work out for me. So I’ve just got to stay dedicated to what I do and keep my vision clear. I’ve got a vision for myself and I can’t let anything get in the way of that, or anybody,” Smith said. “Like I said, it’s a job, you feel me? And you’ve got to play your position. I’ve got a vision for myself and I’ve got my faith in me. My faith isn’t in anybody else, it’s in me. So I believe if I keep that up, I’ll be where I want to be at.”

Jack.Kerr · 10-26-2019, 06:42 PM

Ouch. Smith booed in pre-game intros at MSG.

Even worse, Ntilikina got a massive cheer.

Feel the burn, Bullet, feel the burn.

Update: After Bullet bricks a 3-point attempt in last seconds of Q3, MSG crowd chants "WE WANT FRANK!"

Line through 3 quarters: 11 minutes, 0 points on 0-3 FG, 1 rebound, 1 steal, 1 assist, 2 TO, -15.

His shot has more hitches now than a U-haul parking lot.

He leaves the court to boos.

I'm almost starting to feel bad for him. Almost.

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Dennis Smith Jr. seems to have the yips
Stefan Bondy
By STEFAN BONDY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
OCT 26, 2019 | 10:12 PM

Something is wrong with Dennis Smith Jr.

It was fairly evident in the first two games of the season, and then painfully obvious in Saturday night’s 118-95 loss to the Celtics. The point guard and former ninth overall pick has the symptoms of the dreaded yips.

Boston recognized the issue and left Smith Jr. wide open Saturday. He either passed up the shot or missed, going 0-for-3 on without coming close. His night ended on the end of the bench, a towel draped over his shoulder and a somber look on his face.

Smith Jr. only logged 11 minutes Saturday, but his final 3 1/2 minutes between the third and fourth quarters were pivotal to the end result. The Knicks were up 4 when Smith Jr. was subbed in. They trailed by 8 when he left and never recovered.

Toward the end of Smith Jr.’s time on the floor, a frustrated crowd booed his misses and chanted for Frank Ntilikina, the other point guard who is buried at the end of the rotation. On the season, Smith Jr. is 1-for-11 with three points in three games. His jumper was never a strong point, and he spent the summer working on a new form with assistant coach Keith Smart. Now Smith Jr. can’t come close.

Loud "We want Frank" chants at MSG as DSJ struggles
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1188267968989409280

David Fizdale said he’ll allow Smith Jr. play out of the funk. To a point.

“That’s the battle. That’s the battle. You’re trying to stay competitive in the game and at the same time you’re trying to give him enough time to fight his way into rhythm,” the coach said. “But you know, ultimately I always pick trying to win over that right now. He’ll get there.”

The loss, by far their worst of the season, dropped the Knicks to 0-3. Kemba Walker, the Bronx native, dropped 32 points on his hometown team on 11-of-17 shooting. The Knicks were a disaster with 25 turnovers and just 15 assists, so it’s wholly unfair to pin this all on Smith Jr.

But as the biggest remaining piece in the Kristaps Porzingis trade, the Knicks have a lot invested in the 21-year-old. The only bright spot was RJ Barrett’s first half. The rookie finished with 26 points on 9-of-20 shooting.

“He’s really talented,” Celtics coach Brad Stevens said of Barrett. “I thought he was really good in the draft, I thought he was really good at Duke. He’s had that reputation before he got there. His ability to shoot the ball early on has been impressive. He’s always been able to get downhill and finish. Big strong guard. The way the league is going, he can play 2-through-4. And he finished the game (against Brooklyn on Friday night) at the point. So quite an impressive young guy.”

David Fizdale went with the same starting lineup as the night prior in Brooklyn — with Elfrid Payton at point guard and Mitchell Robinson at center — and it was a smashing success. After an elaborate introduction of the roster for the home opener, the Knicks jumped out to a 16-4 advantage.

But that lead only held up for about seven minutes. The Celtics immediately responded with a 16-4 run of their own, and the first half turned into a back-and-forth with lead changes and alternating bursts of good basketball.

The game turned for the Celtics for good when Smith Jr. came back in.

turin · 10-27-2019, 11:04 AM

I'm beyond elated that Smith is gone.

j0Shi · 10-27-2019, 01:27 PM

If this continues, much more respect for what the Mavs were able to get out of Smith. Imho this is mainly a confidence thing, but still. Not sure DSJ ever got the feeling that NY the city or the Knicks the franchise ever really wanted him. It's especially weird since they are bad, like really bad. They could give the young guys 30 mins / game, who cares. But they somehow seem to believe that they can actually win games and rather play shitty veterans.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-27-2019, 02:38 PM

The biggest losers in all of this are Knicks fans. They get mad that the Knicks drafted Frank over DSJ and now are mad Dennis plays over Frank? What a joke. Karma is a bitch.

Dolan is the new Sterling...maybe worse.

sefant77 · 10-27-2019, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

The biggest losers in all of this are Knicks fans. They get mad that the Knicks drafted Frank over DSJ and now are mad Dennis plays over Frank? What a joke. Karma is a bitch.

Dolan is the new Sterling...maybe worse.

Knicks fans and Dolan just deserve each other

Jack.Kerr · 12-01-2019, 02:32 PM

Harrison Barnes with 30 pts (6 in OT) to lead SAC to a come-from-behind OT win v DEN.

Did DAL really trade Barnes for JJAX and 'cap space'? Really?

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-01-2019, 04:49 PM

Barnes is great at carrying the load on a bad team, but he didn't fit with Luka at all otherwise they would have kept him.

And it's not Jackson's fault he can't get minutes. He averages 14 ppg in games where he gets 20 minutes or more this season. His shooting for the season is 49% FG and 45% from three.

EricaLubarsky · 12-01-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Harrison Barnes with 30 pts (6 in OT) to lead SAC to a come-from-behind OT win v DEN.

Did DAL really trade Barnes for JJAX and 'cap space'? Really?

Jax plays off-ball. He's a perfect fit here.

Barnes is a ball-dominant forward. Great guy, but bad fit next to Doncic.

Jack.Kerr · 12-01-2019, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Jax plays off-ball. He's a perfect fit here.

Barnes is a ball-dominant forward. Great guy, but bad fit next to Doncic.

Is that the story now? Last I heard, people (perhaps you) were saying that he was a skilled player (and a great guy), but a poor value with his contract.

Ball-dominant? I remember that he focused on scoring when he was the only threat they had, but I would not call him 'ball-dominant'.

Bad fit next to Luka? What kind of player is the right fit next to Luka? One who can hit the 3? Barnes does that. One who can score in the low post? Barnes does that. One who can get to the free-throw line? Barnes does that.

So what're the Mavs looking to upgrade this year? They're looking for a reliable second scorer, and they appear to need someone who could get baskets and/or FTs from easy shots inside. Unlikely that a Hardaway hot streak is going to carry them into the playoffs.

I don't think the Mavs ever intended to use that cap space; it was all about keeping payroll low to manageable.

In the end, it amounted to a Jackson-Barnes trade. Bad deal for the Mavericks.

FreshJive · 10-27-2019, 02:51 PM

No wonder he only got 5 minutes. His confidence must be completely shot to do something this dumb. It’s like he’s too nervous to think.

https://twitter.com/MatthewNGeist/st...83902494490624

mac222b · 12-02-2019, 01:02 PM

No it wasn’t exactly Barnes for Jackson/Wright. Delon was plan C or D. If Horford didn’t leave Boston unexpectedly then maybe Kemba with the extra caproom was part of the equation, with Powell, Kleber and KP re-signing afterward.

Jack.Kerr · 12-02-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

No it wasn’t exactly Barnes for Jackson/Wright. Delon was plan C or D. If Horford didn’t leave Boston unexpectedly then maybe Kemba with the extra caproom was part of the equation, with Powell, Kleber and KP re-signing afterward.

Walker was never coming to Dallas. I'm coming to believe they didn't even expect him to.

Otherwise, I agree; max KP, re-sign Powell, Kleber; then Curry, Wright, Boban. Tread water while KP rehabs.

Thespiralgoeson · 12-02-2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

No it wasn’t exactly Barnes for Jackson/Wright. Delon was plan C or D. If Horford didn’t leave Boston unexpectedly then maybe Kemba with the extra caproom was part of the equation, with Powell, Kleber and KP re-signing afterward.

I don't know that Delon was even plan F, but that wasn't my point. My point wasn't what the Mavs plan was, it's what the final result was. The final result was that this year's roster has Jackson and Delon instead of Barnes. I'm perfectly fine with this.

Now, would I give my left nut to have Kemba on this team? Hell yes. I think we'd be title contenders right now if we did. But as Jack already said, it was never gonna happen. I'm more disappointed that we couldn't land Malcolm Brogdon, but I don't think the Mavs were in a position to outbid the Pacers.

EricaLubarsky · 12-02-2019, 01:42 PM

We are the 4th seed and 7 games over .500 and playing the regrets game?

Jack.Kerr · 12-02-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We are the 4th seed and 7 games over .500 and playing the regrets game?

Good enough is the enemy of great, and a schedule skewed toward sub-.500 teams should be taken with a grain of salt.

EricaLubarsky · 12-02-2019, 04:42 PM

per 36 stats this year

Harrison Barnes
17pts
5reb
1 steal
1.4 turnovers
50% FG
39% from three
80% from FT

Jackson
18points
7rebounds
1 steal
0.6 turnovers
50% FG
47% from three
82% from FT

I mean Jackson is criminally underplayed, but he seems to be at least on par even if we just traded Jackson for Barnes. Jackson is a better three point shooter, better rebounder, turns it over less, and shoots freethrows better.

Add Wright who we got via the $$ we saved, and I'd say we won that Barnes trade personally.

Thespiralgoeson · 12-02-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

per 36 stats this year

Harrison Barnes
17pts
5reb
1 steal
1.4 turnovers
50% FG
39% from three
80% from FT

Jackson
18points
7rebounds
1 steal
0.6 turnovers
50% FG
47% from three
82% from FT

I mean Jackson is criminally underplayed, but he seems to be at least on par even if we just traded Jackson for Barnes. Jackson is a better three point shooter, better rebounder, turns it over less, and shoots freethrows better.

Add Wright who we got via the $$ we saved, and I'd say we won that Barnes trade personally.

This.

Jack.Kerr · 12-03-2019, 09:38 AM

Why is it people always resort to "per 36" fantasy stats to bolster an argument for a player who can't get actual playing time? Why don't people just make a realistic assessment of what's keeping a player off the floor? I still remeber the abusrdity from several years ago of people projecting Raef LaFrentz's numbers greatness on a Per 48 basis; problem was, of course, that he was fouling at a rate that would limit him to maybe 31-32 minutes.

Doing a quick eyeball of Jackson's numbers over the last 3 years, shows that when he gets ~30mpg, he averages ~10ppg. Only when you look at his absolute best scoring games does he manage to average 15-ish; can't necessarily tell to what extent these were garbage numbers in blowouts. He's got a very nice (if somewhat old-mannish) 3-pt shot, and a variety of soft-touch shots. The 3-pointer looks a little low and a little slow, and remains to be seen if he can get it off consistently against tight defense.

So what keeps him out of the starting lineup, and off the floor? Defensive inattention? Lethargy on the defensive end of the floor? Slow-footedness? Physical weakness? Take your pick.

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

per 36 stats this year

Harrison Barnes
17pts
5reb
1 steal
1.4 turnovers
50% FG
39% from three
80% from FT

Jackson
18points
7rebounds
1 steal
0.6 turnovers
50% FG
47% from three
82% from FT

I mean Jackson is criminally underplayed, but he seems to be at least on par even if we just traded Jackson for Barnes. Jackson is a better three point shooter, better rebounder, turns it over less, and shoots freethrows better.

Add Wright who we got via the $$ we saved, and I'd say we won that Barnes trade personally.

EricaLubarsky · 12-03-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Doing a quick eyeball of Jackson's numbers over the last 3 years, shows that when he gets ~30mpg, he averages ~10ppg.

I mean if you are going to make up/cherrypick stats and not post them, I might as well answer with real stats. Two years ago he was a rookie. Surely we don't want to judge him on those. Last year he spent most of the season with another team and then only got a few games with the new team.

When Jackson plays 20+ minutes this season (the only full season with the Mavs)
14.3pts, 4.0reb, 0.7ast
57% from the field. 53% from three
73.5% TS%

Source:
https://www.basketball-reference.com...01/splits/2020

Jack.Kerr · 12-03-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When Jackson plays 20+ minutes this season (the only full season with the Mavs)
14.3pts, 4.0reb, 0.7ast
57% from the field. 53% from three
73.5% TS%

You mean all three (3) of those games? The blowout wins against GSW (+48), MEM (+16) and CLE (+42)? The games where his scoring out put was 7, 17, and 19? Those three (3) games?

If you're making an ironic observation about 'cherry-picked' stats, ....well done!

And if not, .....well done! /s

EricaLubarsky · 12-03-2019, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

You mean all three (3) of those games? The blowout wins against GSW (+48), MEM (+16) and CLE (+42)? The games where his scoring out put was 7, 17, and 19? Those three (3) games?

If you're making an ironic observation about 'cherry-picked' stats, ....well done!

And if not, .....well done! /s

I'm sure your stats from his rookie year in Sacramento are much more telling /s

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-02-2019, 05:08 PM

Yeah, I mean, if Jackson got 35 minutes like Barnes, then he would almost certainly average 15-17 ppg.

But there is still only one thing that mattered most. Barnes and Luka were a bad fit. /discussion

EricaLubarsky · 12-02-2019, 10:55 PM

Almost feel sorry for DSJ

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-02-2019, 11:10 PM

I know it's fun for people to kick DSJ while he is down, but he was still decent his rookie year. He is in the worst situation in perhaps basketball history. I mean, my god, their prized rookie Barrett was 0-9. How that sorry excuse for a coach still has a job is pretty amazing. Dolan is the new Sterling. Yikes.

sefant77 · 12-03-2019, 03:28 AM

Still dont care much about DSJ after his bullshit with staying Home healthy.

turin · 12-03-2019, 06:41 PM

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Still dont care much about DSJ after his bullshit with staying Home healthy.

Agree. He made his bed, so now he has to lay in it. Thankfully, he's somebody else's spoiled child.

EricaLubarsky · 12-03-2019, 12:43 PM

Also FWIW, Jackson has a better individual defensive rating (106.8 vs. 107) and individual offensive rating (116.0 vs. 106.0) than Barnes.

Scoobay · 12-03-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Also FWIW, Jackson has a better individual defensive rating (106.8 vs. 107) and individual offensive rating (116.0 vs. 106.0) than Barnes.

Erica - you're awesome at getting stats!

eyeball test tells me Barnes is better equipped physically to matchup with powerful wings. haven't watched enough to comment on whether or not Jackson has drawn any such assignments when he's played.

offensively, it's hard to know whether it's just a matter of Jackson earning more trust because as you say (and show) he's producing when given the chance. In that sense, Jack's question is valid too - maybe there's a reason why he's playing limited minutes. Maybe Rick is just that good at only playing him in favorable matchups where he can be successful and he's not good enough/doesn't contribute enough to play through times when his shot isn't falling, etc.

turin · 12-03-2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobay

Erica - you're awesome at getting stats!

eyeball test tells me Barnes is better equipped physically to matchup with powerful wings. haven't watched enough to comment on whether or not Jackson has drawn any such assignments when he's played.

offensively, it's hard to know whether it's just a matter of Jackson earning more trust because as you say (and show) he's producing when given the chance. In that sense, Jack's question is valid too - maybe there's a reason why he's playing limited minutes. Maybe Rick is just that good at only playing him in favorable matchups where he can be successful and he's not good enough/doesn't contribute enough to play through times when his shot isn't falling, etc.

I think Barnes is more talented, but that was offset by the offensive black hole that he became. Would that have changed? One could only pray so if we still had him and that contract. Personally, I'm happy he moved on. Additionally, I didn't care for his play in crunch time. He really hurt the warriors at times, and I think his play was a major factor in the Warriors losing one finals series. Still, great guy, consummate professional, and I wish him the best with ANOTHER team.

Jack.Kerr · 12-04-2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Also FWIW, Jackson has a better individual defensive rating (106.8 vs. 107) and individual offensive rating (116.0 vs. 106.0) than Barnes.

Are you comparing Jackson-on-Mavs to Barnes-on-Kings?

That's a very big FWIW.

Underdog · 12-03-2019, 08:49 PM

OMG this team would be unwatchable on nights where THJ and Barnes turned into brick-chucking blackholes... You can only have one of those types on the floor at any given time -- two in the starting lineup is a lotto team.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-03-2019, 11:07 PM

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OMG this team would be unwatchable on nights where THJ and Barnes turned into brick-chucking blackholes... You can only have one of those types on the floor at any given time -- two in the starting lineup is a lotto team.

Yep. Matthews and Barnes was the prime example of that.

fluid.forty.one · 12-04-2019, 03:29 PM

I can't imagine a scenario where someone would unironically miss Barnes. Let's get Parsons back while we're at it.

Thespiralgoeson · 12-06-2019, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I can't imagine a scenario where someone would unironically miss Barnes. Let's get Parsons back while we're at it.

Must spread rep.