The"Crap, it didn't happen..but it was awesome to think of" thread

[rabbitproof]

Think about it. When you join a company, do you concern yourself with how much other people are getting paid (assuming you are going to draw a fat check yourself)? As long as you like the people you're playing with, get paid yourself and have a decent shot at success, if the company's bottom line suffers some due to your coworkers' inflated salaries, you are probably okay with that.

Professional athletes probably take that to the utmost extreme since their pay window is so short and open to ending at any moment.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by mavs777

You mean the scrub who only shoots a lot and does nothing else well? Amazing they were able to keep him while taking on the worst contract in the NBA, what a coup for Atlanta.

I don't mean shit, I'm just relaying what Bhaywood said Holmes.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Fisher used to post here on this board...but, he was run off.

I'm guessing my ass is next.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Think about it. When you join a company, do you concern yourself with how much other people are getting paid (assuming you are going to draw a fat check yourself)? As long as you like the people you're playing with, get paid yourself and have a decent shot at success, if the company's bottom line suffers some due to your coworkers' inflated salaries, you are probably okay with that.

Professional athletes probably take that to the utmost extreme since their pay window is so short and open to ending at any moment.

Does the company you work for operate under a salary cap?

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Think about it. When you join a company, do you concern yourself with how much other people are getting paid (assuming you are going to draw a fat check yourself)? As long as you like the people you're playing with, get paid yourself and have a decent shot at success, if the company's bottom line suffers some due to your coworkers' inflated salaries, you are probably okay with that.

Professional athletes probably take that to the utmost extreme since their pay window is so short and open to ending at any moment.

Agree generally, but if it wasn't a factor, D-Will probably would have already finished deciding. I think it's pretty clear at this point--from the reports that he's been waffling back and forth on his decision--that he genuinely does want to win and has been at least somewhat moved by the Mavs' position that it could be very difficult to compete for titles in Brooklyn due to their cap usage.

How much it's moved him...that remains to be seen.

[alby]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Think about it. When you join a company, do you concern yourself with how much other people are getting paid (assuming you are going to draw a fat check yourself)? As long as you like the people you're playing with, get paid yourself and have a decent shot at success, if the company's bottom line suffers some due to your coworkers' inflated salaries, you are probably okay with that.

Professional athletes probably take that to the utmost extreme since their pay window is so short and open to ending at any moment.

I don't disagree with you but the Nets are operating under the rules of the NBA Salary Cap. Also, they are bound by the $74 million hard cap.

Since the Nets are using the non-taxpayer mid-level, their payroll cannot exceed $74M under new rules.

[purplefrog]

Looking at all the Nets' recent moves, I see four possibilities:

Either DWill makes a sound basketball decision and signs with the Dallas Mavericks;

OR

DWill makes a decision that is based on what his family may want and chooses the Nets;

OR

DWill is only interested in money and chooses the Nets;

OR

DWill is not very good at making career decisions and chooses the Nets.

The Nets' management is literally throwing wet spaghetti against a wall and hoping enough of it sticks. They have no plan, just lots of activity that they hope can be misconstrued as strategy. Its smoke, mirrors, and a ton of cash. Period. However, there are three paths that lead DWill to the Nets and it might just be the odds are 3:1 in favor of Brooklyn.

[rabbitproof]

Well, the cap is essentially an imaginary profitability line for real world companies.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Think about it. When you join a company, do you concern yourself with how much other people are getting paid (assuming you are going to draw a fat check yourself)? As long as you like the people you're playing with, get paid yourself and have a decent shot at success, if the company's bottom line suffers some due to your coworkers' inflated salaries, you are probably okay with that.

Professional athletes probably take that to the utmost extreme since their pay window is so short and open to ending at any moment.

I get what you are saying...but Not quite the same, Eventually it will greatly effect the talent that is surrounding you. Most work places don't rely on teamwork near as much as pro basketball.

[alby]

Here's to hoping the Nets get stuck with Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, and Teletovic for the next 3+ years.

[LonghornDub]

This is purely speculative, but I like the Mavs' chances more the longer Deron takes to decide.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Well, the cap is essentially an imaginary profitability line for real world companies.

Not really... In the real world, the more you make, the more you can pay out... More like the MLB than the NBA.

[roadrunner]

Originally Posted by alby

Here's to hoping the Nets get stuck with Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, and Teletovic for the next 3+ years.

I second that motion.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

This is purely speculative, but I like the Mavs' chances more the longer Deron takes to decide.

Me too - seems like he's waiting to see who can put the best team together... Which means we already have a head start, seeing as how Dirk is the best player between Deron's two options.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Not really... In the real world, the more you make, the more you can pay out... More like the MLB than the NBA.

I don't think it's a perfect analogy but the similarities are there enough that the Nets' 2015 cap space isn't on page one of Deron's list of things to consider.

[roadrunner]

Where are all the tweets that says Deron endorses the Teletubby...er Teletovi...whatever signing?

[rabbitproof]

Teletovic, who stands 6 feet 9 and 242 pounds, played for Caja Laboral in Spain, averaging 22 points and 6 rebounds in Euroleague play. A skilled shooter, he converted 43.8 percent of his 3-point attempts.

The Nets used the midlevel exception to sign Teletovic, which — under the N.B.A.’s new labor deal — means they cannot exceed $74 million in payroll next season.

They also may have taken themselves out of the running for Jason Kidd or any other significant free agent. It is unclear what Kidd might command in a starting salary, but he will probably seek at least $3 million. The most the Nets can offer any free agent now (other than their own) is the biannual exception, which is worth $1.96 million.

From NYT times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/04/sp...with-nets.html

[rabbitproof]

Euro Ryan Anderson?

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I'm guessing my ass is next.

Who would do that to you? You're a good guy that everyone likes. Bob Sturm used to post a bit as well... And then we had the BBC guy that came over and did a story on Mavs fans.. One of the DMN writers used to post here as well. But he mostly came on to defend when someone was trashing an article of his.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Who would do that to you? You're a good guy that everyone likes. Bob Sturm used to post a bit as well... And then we had the BBC guy that came over and did a story on Mavs fans..

Thanks.
I must have missed that BBC guy. Any idea on where his article would be?

[iella]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I'm guessing my ass is next.

Stop fishing for compliments, BG.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

I don't think it's a perfect analogy but the similarities are there enough that the Nets' 2015 cap space isn't on page one of Deron's list of things to consider.

It should be if he's concerned with winning - do you think Dirk took less money just so Mark Cuban could have a little more in his piggy bank? Putting together a winning team is ALL about cap space under the new CBA.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Thanks.
I must have missed that BBC guy. Any idea on where his article would be?

It was TV... no article. It was long before your time.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by iella

Stop fishing for compliments, BG.

I only fish for the ladies and come up empty.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Underdog

It should be if he's concerned with winning - do you think Dirk took less money just so Mark Cuban could have a little more in his piggy bank? Putting together a winning team is ALL about cap space under the new CBA.

You're such a communist.

If he was ALL about winning, Deron could sign for less than maximum himself, you know.

[BGMaverick9]

The lockout really served its purpose...
In the end, it was just about the BRI and then they said you could have your game back.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

You're such a communist.

If he was ALL about winning, Deron could sign for less than minimum himself, you know.

Actually, that's my point - the way the NBA is structured is 100% communist... Whereas the MLB operates as more of a free market.

And nobody ever said it was ALL about winning, but Deron did make it clear that winning is his #1 priority...

[alby]

The all about winning breed (Dirk) is a dying one.

[DirkFTW]

Board got really slow all of a sudden... who signed what?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

Board got really slow all of a sudden... who signed what?

I was just wondering the same thing, but now it's working again... And nobody has signed anything.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Actually, that's my point - the way the NBA is structured is 100% communist... Whereas the MLB operates as more of a free market.

And nobody ever said it was ALL about winning, but Deron did make that clear that it's his #1 priority...

I'd say the NFL is communist. NBA is hybrid - the Nets only have a hard cap because they used the MLE under the cap. Agree MLB is free market.

[LonghornDub]

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Centers gonna center.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Centers gonna center.

Saw that coming from a million-billion-zillion miles away...

[rabbitproof]

Get over your Shaq trip, Dwight.

Learn from the Selfish One and assume the throne of the Evil Empire in 2 years.

[alby]

Deron to Dallas
Dwight to LA

Let's all get back to work.

[rabbitproof]

Need a break to do work. Hopefully this ends today.

[EricaLubarsky]

Dwight 19.26m
Johnson 19.75m
Deron 17.77m
Wallace 9m
Teletovic 5m
7 minimum salary position holds @ 396k each 2.8m
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73.52

hardcap at 72

hmmmmm

[jthig32]

Hard cap is 74

[MavsFTR]

Please Dwight, go to LA if it means we get Deron...

[iella]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Need a break to do work. Hopefully this ends today.

This. At about 20% productivity right now, if that.