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oden is one of if not the biggest busts in nba history. i would rather have ian mahinmi or alexis ajinca as a starting center. hell, i would rather have cuban bring back ericka than bring in oden. oden should pay portland fans reparations.
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11-18-2010, 12:31 PM
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Poor Oden. All he's going to be known for is having penis exposed for all to see, being drafted before Durant, and looking really old.
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Even in his Ohio State times he seemed lethargic. But his forehead wrinkles have made me dislike him more than I probably should. no one knows what kind of a player he could have developed into. let's not let his lack of athleticism cloud our perspective. Duncan could never jump as high and as quickly as Tyson Chandler, yet he became arguably the best power forward ever. now that Oden is no longer with us it's easy to dismiss him as a guy who was overrated from the start, and maybe he was, when compared to Durant. But he never blamed anyone but himself and god for his shortcommings. quality guy and his stint in the nba and on earth was much too short.
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The guy was a stud at OSU and was going to be the next great big man behind Howard. Injuries has derailed that. I mean he played a full season at OSU, there were some red flags around draft time. But for one man, this soon, it's a tremondous shame and loss to the game.
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injuries has derailed indeed
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11-18-2010, 02:15 PM
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You can only do so much when you have knees made of glass.
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Wasn't it just 2-3 years ago, that Portland was going to be legit contender for many years, now the obvious onus on Oden, but Roy's knee is having problems. This was one of his red flags on draft day also. Team isn't all that bad, Batum, Aldridge, Camby, Miller, Rudy, but toss in Roy and Oden.....what could have been, oh well.
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11-18-2010, 02:53 PM
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Oden is a bust but no where near the worst of all time, Kwame Brown Darko Milicic anyone?
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Injuries or not, the Blazers were always stupid for drafting him over KD.
But then again, what do the Blazers really know about draft evaluations.
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is oden currently a millionaire? how does everyone feel about that?
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Kwame Brown - 57 games/season in 9 years. Darko Milicic - 54 games/season in 7 years. Greg Oden - 27 games/season in 3 years. Kinda hard to choose the biggest bust when none of them can stay on the court long enough to evaluate - I'd say they're all equally useless.
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I would trade Dirk for any of those guys. They wouldn't have turned the ball over last night trying a fancy behind the back highlight move.
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82 games played in 4 years...
 At OSU he made Mike Conley who he is...without Oden, Conley probably wouldn't have even made it to the NBA....now Conley has developed into a nice point guard Is that karma?
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Playing 20.5 games/season over 4 years for a #1 draft pick probably qualifies as the biggest bust in NBA history.
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yes sir...he is the biggest bust.....ever! No one was predicting that Darko would be that great...Kwame ok maybe great....but Greg Oden was crowned a hall of famer before putting on a Ohio State uni....its taken him 4 years to complete one NBA season
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This thread needs a Billy Madison quote for summation:
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. |
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oden was never going to be what people expected. He was born much too late for that. Unless you are a freak of nature like Howard the days of the dominant big man is over. The rule changes ended that. Oden was too slow to excel in the NBA. He could in college because he could over power the competition but the players he faces in the NBA are just as big and as strong. Now you need size and quickness. They allow zones and doubles now which they didn't in the days when the centers were dominant. That is the difference.
Let me add that Oden would not even have been that good had he played twenty years ago. Arvidas Sabinis played his entire NBA carreer with bad knees. He was an excellent center who even with bad knees gave Shaq his best competition. At best Oden could have been a good defensive center thats all. His knee injuries just provided an out and excuse for his being overrated. Another thing that I just remembered about Oden. I thought that Dampier was darn near use less. Well he generally was but he always seem to either negate or out play Oden. I guess that was the worst thing I could say about Oden. Other than if Dampier is called Erica than Oden deserves to called Freya even more. Last edited by wilmtalk; 11-19-2010 at 01:05 AM. |
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Its not like Oden was ever a horrible player, he just had too many injuries. When he actually played he was a difference maker on both ends of the floor. Hes not a bust like for instance one Darko Milicic because Oden can actually play if his knees werent made of tissue paper, where as Darko just sucks as a basketball player. |
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Darko will always be the biggest bust because of the players drafted behind him: Carmelo, Bosh, and Wade.
Kwame beat Chandler and Pau and there was no current franchise player in that draft I can think of.
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i would rather have darko. at least darko can actually play and get 6 points and 5 rebounds, unlike oden who can't play at all. darko also has as many rings as lebron melo wade and bosh combined.
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Darko might be somewhat debatable because he came from one the strongest drafts in NBA history and was picked ahead of guys like Melo, Wade, and Bosh, but he's just one of MANY European big men who were touted as the "next Dirk" and were drafted way higher than they should've been. He's certainly the most famous (or infamous) example, but I really wouldn't consider him to be any more of a bust than Tskitishvili. Neither Kwame nor Darko had anywhere NEAR as high expectations as Oden. Oden was the most hyped up big man to come out of the draft since Duncan. Almost everyone was touting this guy as a guaranteed can't-miss Hall of Fame player. Hell, just read through this very thread. A few people said that about Darko, but not nearly as many as Oden. And NOBODY (except maybe Michael Jordan) said that about Kwame. Last edited by Thespiralgoeson; 11-20-2010 at 06:55 AM. |
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