02-04-2011, 11:08 PM
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Postgame Thread - Mavs beat the Celts in a nailbiter
This win deserved a better thread...
- Dirk with 29 points on 9-14 shooting (1-1 from the arc, 10-10 from the stripe).
- Chandler got another double-double with 14 points and 15 rebounds (4 offensive).
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02-04-2011, 11:09 PM
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That pic is still epic...
btw: HELLUVA WIN!
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02-04-2011, 11:11 PM
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Mavs are shooting 43.8 % from 3 in there last 3 games (over 40% in each)
During the 7 game win streak Mavs are shooting 85 % from the line, only game under 80% Atlanta game, over 90% 3 times
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02-04-2011, 11:12 PM
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No JKidd squirrelnuts picture for the superclutch game-winning 3?
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02-04-2011, 11:13 PM
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No JKidd squirrelnuts picture for the superclutch game-winning 3?
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Kidd is too cool for school.
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02-04-2011, 11:13 PM
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Epic. This win makes up for the murder of my iPod today.
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02-04-2011, 11:13 PM
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Maybe the best win of the season. You just don't walk into Boston and leave victorious. Intensely hard-fought game from start to finish, with the good guys coming out on top. Greatness!
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02-04-2011, 11:13 PM
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02-04-2011, 11:14 PM
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Great win!! So many times they couldve folded: back to back airballs by Jet and DeShawn, KG holding Dirk for the steal and no call. Gutsy win...
This team needs another veteran scorer to replace Caron in the worst way. The Defense was pretty nice once again in the 4th. Mahinmi gave them some nice minutes. Barea passing better as of late.
Jet had some nice drives, not just settling for the jumper and that was huge. Dirk was Dirk. Get the Man some help!!!!
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02-04-2011, 11:15 PM
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Great game ....our defense was just a lil better than their defense in the last quarter
Defense wins championships
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02-04-2011, 11:17 PM
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Mavs had 6 different players score double digit points tonight.
Tyson with his 8th-straight double digit scoring game and his 4th double-double during that stretch.
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02-04-2011, 11:17 PM
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oh and btw KG is a wannabe fake ass thug punk bitch.
we'll see if he gets a suspension for pushing off the ref. probably not though considering hitting a guy in the nuts and twice undercutting him trying to cause injury apparently wasn't enough.
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02-04-2011, 11:17 PM
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The Dallas Mavericks needed a 7-0 run to secure a victory over the Boston Celtics in early November. On Friday Night, the Mavs finished the game on an 10-0 run to secure a 101-97 victory in Boston over the Celtics. Dallas held Boston scoreless for the last 2:42 of the game. Jason Kidd hit a go-ahead three-point basket with two seconds left in the game to give the Mavericks the lead at 99-97. The win gave the Mavericks their seventh straight win, the longest active winning streak in the NBA. The Boston Celtics make up a chunk of the Eastern Conference All-Star team as Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Rajon Rondo made the team and they will be coached by Doc Rivers.
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http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2011/2/...celtics-101-97
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02-04-2011, 11:27 PM
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Maybe the best win of the season. You just don't walk into Boston and leave victorious. Intensely hard-fought game from start to finish, with the good guys coming out on top. Greatness!
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You do if you're the Mavs, apparently. Two years in a row.
Great, great win. I do hope this doesn't discourage the FO from continuing to pursue reasonable trade options, though.
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02-04-2011, 11:30 PM
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You do if you're the Mavs, apparently. Two years in a row.
Great, great win. I do hope this doesn't discourage the FO from continuing to pursue reasonable trade options, though.
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It definitely takes the urgency out of the equation. If Peja can produce some kind of scoring impact, and Roddy can bring something...the team gets even more dangerous.
The word opportunistic fits rather nicely based on the situation with trades now.
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02-04-2011, 11:42 PM
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Mavs also now have sole possession of second place in the West. They have a half-game lead on the Lakers. Hard to imagine that would be the case when they were in 5th place around 2 weeks ago.
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02-04-2011, 11:53 PM
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If Peja can produce some kind of scoring impact, and Roddy can bring something...the team gets even more dangerous.
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The Mavs have scored 100+ points in the last 6 games.
Our offense really seems to be clicking right now and the eventual additions of Peja and Roddy are only going to improve that.
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02-04-2011, 11:53 PM
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Jon barry said that Kidd definitely traveled on that last play... what do you guys think? Was the win legitimate?
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02-04-2011, 11:54 PM
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Jon Barry is a bitter punk. What does the Mavs losing in the first round 3 of the past 4 years have to do with this year? A noticeably different team.
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02-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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Jon Barry can go kicks rocks....he is a Mav hater
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02-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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Kidd is too cool for school.
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I will use Porschla then when Kidd deserves extra-rep
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02-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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Jon barry said that Kidd definitely traveled on that last play... what do you guys think? Was the win legitimate?
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And KG fouled Dirk. Also, Pierce was sliding on both if his charges. JB just hates the Mavs.
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02-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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Jon barry said that Kidd definitely traveled on that last play... what do you guys think? Was the win legitimate?
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i think jon barry is mad and butthurt like the entire celtics fanbase is right now
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02-04-2011, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
It definitely takes the urgency out of the equation. If Peja can produce some kind of scoring impact, and Roddy can bring something...the team gets even more dangerous.
The word opportunistic fits rather nicely based on the situation with trades now.
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I think it takes any sense of desperation away, but there's still a sense of urgency simply because there's an artificial time deadline on when they can make a move.
Of course, that's only if the FO agrees with me that we still need one more guy, besides Peja and Roddy, to have a significant chance of running a LA/SA/Boston or Miami playoff gauntlet. But maybe they don't.
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02-04-2011, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
It definitely takes the urgency out of the equation. If Peja can produce some kind of scoring impact, and Roddy can bring something...the team gets even more dangerous.
The word opportunistic fits rather nicely based on the situation with trades now.
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...IF Peja and Roddy can bring something meaningful to the table. Unfortunately, we won't get an idea on their offensive and overall impact until after the trade deadline has passed. It's possible that Peja's rapid decline could continue and keep him from being a factor. Roddy's been out for six months now and it's impossible to say what kind of a role he can play.
That's why I'm on board with LDub to not get into too much of a "We love our boys in blue" mode, although I agree with your assessment on what being opportunistic means at this point. We're certainly far from desperate to make a move, even though I'm not sold on our team's chances to win it all either.
Other than that, this was easily one of the best wins of the season. Chandler continues to impress big time and is THE major reason why we're still competitive even without Caron. Dirk's back to being the Uberman and keeps shooting at a ridiculous rate. Something I like right now as well is having Mahinmi as an insurance policy for Haywood.
Now let's make Charlotte our bitch tomorrow and end this road trip 3-0.
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02-04-2011, 11:59 PM
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And KG fouled Dirk. Also, Pierce was sliding on both if his charges. JB just hates the Mavs.
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This.
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02-05-2011, 12:01 AM
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Jon Barry is a bitter punk. What does the Mavs losing in the first round 3 of the past 4 years have to do with this year? A noticeably different team.
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Ugh! So tired of hearing this....even on the NBA 2k11 Kellogg and Harlan mentions this every single game! .... Give me a break
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02-05-2011, 12:03 AM
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Mavs also now have sole possession of second place in the West. They have a half-game lead on the Lakers. Hard to imagine that would be the case when they were in 5th place around 2 weeks ago.
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It's pretty amazing how the Mavs turned things around, and they didn't really need to add anyone to do it. Turns out we just needed Dirk and Tyson to get a little healthier.
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02-05-2011, 12:03 AM
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Ugh! So tired of hearing this....even on the NBA 2k11 Kellogg and Harlan mentions this every single game! .... Give me a break
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so.... window closing, or window closed?
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02-05-2011, 12:04 AM
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My buddy and I were talking about a couple other Mavs-related announcer grievances we have:
"Dirk's playing more in the post this year." -- said every year since 2005-2006.
"Marion/Kidd/other older player 'turning back the clock' on that play." -- said every game. Why can't those guys just be good players at their current ages?
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02-05-2011, 12:05 AM
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I"m not sure I've ever seen such blatant fouling that was let go by garnet. Those holds were right in front of refs as well.
Also Ray Allen fouled the crap out of tyson on that block, grabbing his left shoulder and turning him around.
And Garnett is about as unclutch as you can get.
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02-05-2011, 12:05 AM
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I think it takes any sense of desperation away, but there's still a sense of urgency simply because there's an artificial time deadline on when they can make a move.
Of course, that's only if the FO agrees with me that we still need one more guy, besides Peja and Roddy, to have a significant chance of running a LA/SA/Boston or Miami playoff gauntlet. But maybe they don't.
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I can still see them doing a deal...a blockbuster is pretty much off of the table now unless Denver puts Melo on a silver platter. I can see a minor move like a Landry-type player for an exception.
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...IF Peja and Roddy can bring something meaningful to the table. Unfortunately, we won't get an idea on their offensive and overall impact until after the trade deadline has passed. It's possible that Peja's rapid decline could continue and keep him from being a factor. Roddy's been out for six months now and it's impossible to say what kind of a role he can play.
That's why I'm on board with LDub to not get into too much of a "We love our boys in blue" mode, although I agree with your assessment on what being opportunistic means at this point. We're certainly far from desperate to make a move, even though I'm not sold on our team's chances to win it all either.
Other than that, this was easily one of the best wins of the season. Chandler continues to impress big time and is THE major reason why we're still competitive even without Caron. Dirk's back to being the Uberman and keeps shooting at a ridiculous rate. Something I like right now as well is having Mahinmi as an insurance policy for Haywood.
Now let's make Charlotte our bitch tomorrow and end this road trip 3-0.
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Chandler was a major factor, especially in the first half of the game. The refs were letting both teams play and Chandler was a beast in the middle. Games like that have never been pretty for Dallas over the years, they usually get ugly and in a quick fashion. He set the tone with his no-BS stance with KG.
Again, I just don't see a "major" deal happening. It could have major implications but a lot of people (dumb people) will say, that is what you did???
Peja's rapid decline is due to a knee injury, the guy can still shoot the lights out. He's moved around fairly well and the knee hasn't had any major flare ups. It's just a matter of getting the conditioning right.
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02-05-2011, 12:06 AM
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I dont care if Kidd travelled, Boston came away with so many. Garnett shouldnt be on the court anymore after tossing the ref, they stole a Barea an And1 when they gave PP the charge. KG holding Dirk on that crucial possession.
It was really a great win. There were plenty of situations "old" Mavs teams would have just fold and the game is done (the calls, the bricks etc). But they didnt lose it.
Dirk and Chandler obvious great. Kidd did a good job overall and nailed the three.
Barea had a great start and cooled off
Stevenson was meh - he took some shots he shouldnt take and thats something he usual doesnt do.
Marion was more than solid and had some huge baskets late in the game
Terry was....his statline looks again nice but he had some horrible shots/bricks late in the 4th and his pass to Dirk was flat out terrible and almost lost us the game.
Haywood - meeeeh
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02-05-2011, 12:07 AM
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I can still see them doing a deal...a blockbuster is pretty much off of the table now unless Denver puts Melo on a silver platter. I can see a minor move like a Landry-type player for an exception.
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I would consider a Landry-type player much more than a "minor" move myself. Assuming a reasonably productive Peja and a Roddy who produces at even 50% of expectations, adding someone of Landry's caliber would make this team seriously scary, IMO.
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It's pretty amazing how the Mavs turned things around, and they didn't really need to add anyone to do it. Turns out we just needed Dirk and Tyson to get a little healthier.
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The value of Dirk and Tyson is so critical. I find it absurd Dirk has fallen out of the MVP race with some...people need to realize the Mavs went 2-8 without him (I'm including the Grizz game where he got tossed after 10 minutes) and 32-7 with him. Thar's just night and day. Dirk's peripheral stats aren't necessarily MVP caliber, but he leads the NBA in +/-, has the best TS% among the stars (last I checked) and is clearly the most valuable player to his team.
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so.... window closing, or window closed?
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Ugh shoot me why don't
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so.... window closing, or window closed?
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Ugh shoot me why don't
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
My buddy and I were talking about a couple other Mavs-related announcer grievances we have:
"Dirk's playing more in the post this year." -- said every year since 2005-2006.
"Marion/Kidd/other older player 'turning back the clock' on that play." -- said every game. Why can't those guys just be good players at their current ages?
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I feel like every opposing announcer likes to mention that despite Barea being the smallest player on the court, he's carved out an important role for himself as the sparkplug of the Mavericks.
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so.... window closing, or window closed?
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I would consider a Landry-type player much more than a "minor" move myself. Assuming a reasonably productive Peja and a Roddy who produces at even 50% of expectations, adding someone of Landry's caliber would make this team seriously scary, IMO.
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I know you're just using him as an example, but bleh, I really don't like Landry's game. He's an awful rebounder at the 4.
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