2014 Offseason Thread - Page 57 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

jay3189 · 07-14-2014, 04:07 PM

Reports that the Mavericks will do a sign and trade with Dejuan Blair to the Wizards

spreedom · 07-14-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jay3189

Reports that the Mavericks will do a sign and trade with Dejuan Blair to the Wizards

I like it... probably getting only a trade exception in return, but that could be helpful in roster-building after Dirk is signed or during the season. Get those assets!

BGMaverick9 · 07-14-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I like it... probably getting only a trade exception in return, but that could be helpful in roster-building after Dirk is signed or during the season. Get those assets!

Like I said earlier, it's not expected that a TPE is coming because they're under the cap and that would just eat into their space.

They'll look for cash, a pick or rights to a player.

Melonhead · 07-14-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jay3189

I think this possibly will be the Mavericks 2014-2015 15 man team roster
STARTERS
PG- Devin Harris
SG- Monta Ellis
SF- Chandler Parsons
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
C- Tyson Chandler
BENCH
PG- Raymond Felton
SG- Ricky Ledo
SF- Jae Crowder
SF-Richard Jefferson
PF- Brandan Wright
PF- Greg Smith
C- Bernard James
PG- Gal Mekel
SG- CJ Fair
PF- Ivan Johnson

If youve been watching summer league, Ledo and Fair are not NBA ready. Ivan Johnson hasnt shown much at all either. There will be at least one more NBA guy at 2.7 exception.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 07-14-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

If youve been watching summer league, Ledo and Fair are not NBA ready. Ivan Johnson hasnt shown much at all either. There will be at least one more NBA guy at 2.7 exception.

eric griffin for a 10 day contract atleast and if he can prove himself maybe a min. contract

BGMaverick9 · 07-14-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jamaljasonandjimmy

eric griffin for a 10 day contract atleast and if he can prove himself maybe a min. contract

You can't sign those until later in the season.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 07-14-2014, 04:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoavGv43x_s

jamaljasonandjimmy · 07-14-2014, 04:36 PM

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You can't sign those until later in the season.

sign him to a minimum if he can keep doing what he is doing and thanks for imparting your basketball wisdom to little me.

Underdog · 07-14-2014, 05:04 PM

@BallinWithBryan: Asked @mcuban if it would be possible to reduce the money on Dirk and Devin to free more room. Said he wouldn't do that to those guys.

This was a rumor started by Fish, glad to see some clarification.

Underdog · 07-14-2014, 05:05 PM

@BallinWithBryan: Cuban said that Mavs have been trying to get Smith for two years. Plan is to play Brandan Wright more at the 4.

Felton/Devin
Ellis/Crowder
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Wright
Tyson/Smith

SMC0007 · 07-14-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

If youve been watching summer league, Ledo and Fair are not NBA ready. Ivan Johnson hasnt shown much at all either. There will be at least one more NBA guy at 2.7 exception.

This is not accurate imo, Ledo is NBA ready. To what level? Let's find out.

Kante · 07-14-2014, 06:28 PM

BG: The trade between Dallas and Chicago is official. The Bulls have traded Greg Smith to Dallas in exchange for the rights to Tadija Dragicevic.

Melonhead · 07-14-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@BallinWithBryan: Asked @mcuban if it would be possible to reduce the money on Dirk and Devin to free more room. Said he wouldn't do that to those guys.

This was a rumor started by Fish, glad to see some clarification.

Glad to hear cuban say that

jay3189 · 07-14-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

If youve been watching summer league, Ledo and Fair are not NBA ready. Ivan Johnson hasnt shown much at all either. There will be at least one more NBA guy at 2.7 exception.

Ricky Ledo has showed he has good ball handling skills, Dallas don't have a legit backup shooting guard for Monta Ellis, so I won't be surprised if Ricky Ledo gets that backup shooting guard spot as long as he develop his jump shot. I was just throwing out Cj Fair's name as a possibility to crack the 15 man roster, but the way Eric Griffin has been playing, he probably have a better chance than CJ Fair, and Ivan Johnson will bring that nasty style to the Mavericks team, he boxes out and plays really physical, thats exactly what the Mavericks need

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-14-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

This is not accurate imo, Ledo is NBA ready. To what level? Let's find out.

Mavs could use sg depth and he is just that. A third stringer he can be.

SMC0007 · 07-14-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jay3189

Ricky Ledo has showed he has good ball handling skills, Dallas don't have a legit backup shooting guard for Monta Ellis, so I won't be surprised if Ricky Ledo gets that backup shooting guard spot as long as he develop his jump shot. I was just throwing out Cj Fair's name as a possibility to crack the 15 man roster, but the way Eric Griffin has been playing, he probably have a better chance than CJ Fair, and Ivan Johnson will bring that nasty style to the Mavericks team, he boxes out and plays really physical, thats exactly what the Mavericks need

Ivan Johnson has basically played himself back out of the NBA as far as he has this summer league is concerned. He looks worse than I have ever seen him and as bad as anything I have ever seen in SL play.

yahyes · 07-14-2014, 07:20 PM

Mavs talking to Mike Miller huh. I'll call him Mikey if he signs here.

Kante · 07-14-2014, 07:33 PM

No way he comes here. He goes to Cleveland i assume.

Mav Addict · 07-14-2014, 07:36 PM

Sefko said zero chance of Mike Miller.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-14-2014, 07:39 PM

Yeah, Miller makes no sense at his asking price and where he'd get minutes.

sefant77 · 07-14-2014, 07:46 PM

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Bulls To Trade Anthony Randolph, Two 2nd Rounders To Magic To Clear Cap Space

Magic are waiving him. So much talent....i think i would grab him for the minimum. If someone can potentially rescue his career, its Rick...

BGMaverick9 · 07-14-2014, 08:08 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...reements-stand

This is the rest that didn't make the newser notebook on Parsons.

More to come with comments from Donnie and Rick tomorrow.

FINtastic · 07-14-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@BallinWithBryan: Cuban said that Mavs have been trying to get Smith for two years. Plan is to play Brandan Wright more at the 4.

Felton/Devin
Ellis/Crowder
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Wright
Tyson/Smith

I do like the Smith move - seems like a nice get, especially at that price. Roster is shaping up pretty nicely right now. Hope that line about Wright comes to fruition - I've always seen him more as a 4 that can play 5 in certain spots/mismatches, than the way he's been used (which is the other way around).

fluid.forty.one · 07-14-2014, 09:56 PM

I'm surprised that Monta shot 54% on corner 3s last year.

spreedom · 07-14-2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Like I said earlier, it's not expected that a TPE is coming because they're under the cap and that would just eat into their space.

They'll look for cash, a pick or rights to a player.

Thanks for clarifying. In that case, even if it's a future conditional 2nd rounder or some Euro that likely won't ever come over... I'm glad the front office is still consciously in asset-gathering mode. Everything helps.

DGM · 07-14-2014, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@BallinWithBryan: Cuban said that Mavs have been trying to get Smith for two years. Plan is to play Brandan Wright more at the 4.

Felton/Devin
Ellis/Crowder
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/Wright
Tyson/Smith

That's the right way to use Wright. He does not rebound well enough to play center.

ffballer · 07-14-2014, 10:01 PM

it would be really stupid not signing eric griffin dude is unpolished talent and ricky ledo has shown some really big development hope he can showcase what hes got

Vinsanity · 07-14-2014, 10:17 PM

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it would be really stupid not signing eric griffin dude is unpolished talent and ricky ledo has shown some really big development hope he can showcase what hes got

Agreed.

our 15 man roster should be...

1. Dirk
2. Ellis
3. Parsons
4. Tyson
5. Harris
6. Felton
7. Wright
8. Mo Williams
9. Jefferson
10. Ledo
11. Crowder
12. Smith
13. Griffin
14. B James
15. CJ Fair

yahyes · 07-14-2014, 10:33 PM

What's going on with Jameer Nelson by the way? Last I heard Orlando released him. If Felton gets dealt there's always Jameer.

rabbitproof · 07-14-2014, 11:28 PM

Oh it would be so sweet to get Mike Miller.

He would step into Vince's role nicely.

We do need another wing defender more than we need him but from an asset perspective, unbeatable.

yahyes · 07-15-2014, 01:09 AM

That's where I would like Marion to look over starting. He could be a good situational player for Dallas. TEAM UP!

Kante · 07-15-2014, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinsanity

Agreed.

our 15 man roster should be...

1. Dirk
2. Ellis
3. Parsons
4. Tyson
5. Harris
6. Felton
7. Wright
8. Mo Williams
9. Jefferson
10. Ledo
11. Crowder
12. Smith
13. Griffin
14. B James
15. CJ Fair

So, Mekel is just gone?

Twenty4sevenn · 07-15-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Magic are waiving him. So much talent....i think i would grab him for the minimum. If someone can potentially rescue his career, its Rick...

I would take Anthony Randolph for the minimum in a heartbeat.

jasonic · 07-15-2014, 08:50 AM

So right now we have 13 spots, which means we have 2 spots available.

Harris, Felton, Mekel
Ellis, Ledo
Parsons, Jefferson, Crowder
Dirk, Wright
Chandler, Smith, James

I would like one more wing who can defend and hit the 3 point shot. Wes Johnson showed improvement with his 3 point shot, but i don't know if he will came here for the min. Garcia, Rush, Hamilton, James Anderson would be also good additions too especially if Rush played in the same level just before his injury.
For the last spot i would like to take a prospect type of guy, and in our summer league team the only guy that i would give a contract is Griffin, but i would like our FO to look for better prospects (for instance McAdoo got undrafted in this year's draft).

Melonhead · 07-15-2014, 10:11 AM

Garcia would be a good 3&d at the minimum.

I wonder who we bring in if Mo Williams turns us down

Wang Zhi Zhi · 07-15-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonic

So right now we have 13 spots, which means we have 2 spots available.

Harris, Felton, Mekel
Ellis, Ledo
Parsons, Jefferson, Crowder
Dirk, Wright
Chandler, Smith, James

I would like one more wing who can defend and hit the 3 point shot. Wes Johnson showed improvement with his 3 point shot, but i don't know if he will came here for the min. Garcia, Rush, Hamilton, James Anderson would be also good additions too especially if Rush played in the same level just before his injury.
For the last spot i would like to take a prospect type of guy, and in our summer league team the only guy that i would give a contract is Griffin, but i would like our FO to look for better prospects (for instance McAdoo got undrafted in this year's draft).

Agreed. Our defense on the perimeter and wing is pretty weak right now--actually very weak at the 2/3

j0Shi · 07-15-2014, 10:20 AM

via @bbstats

j0Shi · 07-15-2014, 10:20 AM

via @bbstats

Can't find the metric he used, but he's a +/- guy. Says we have a pretty balanced roster right now in terms of positional minutes. Minor holes at the wing and C, think we can agree on that.
So another big + 2/3 at the minimum and we're set.

It seems it also evaluates roster strength to a certain degree, bc good players play more minutes in his metric. He also rated the Mavs roster pretty high prior to the Parsons acquisition. Primarily because Dirk and Tyson are +/- darlings.

grndmstr_c · 07-15-2014, 10:36 AM

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via @bbstats

Can't find the metric he used, but he's a +/- guy. Says we have a pretty balanced roster right now in terms of positional minutes. Minor holes at the wing and C, think we can agree on that.
So another big + 2/3 at the minimum and we're set.

It seems it also evaluates roster strength to a certain degree, bc good players play more minutes in his metric. He also rated the Mavs roster pretty high prior to the Parsons acquisition. Primarily because Dirk and Tyson are +/- darlings.

So higher is better, right? I wonder if the center numbers include Smith, and if so, would the PF/C rating look different if his 2012/2013 stats were used? (I'm also assuming here that last year figures most strongly in the calculus.)

j0Shi · 07-15-2014, 11:03 AM

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So higher is better, right? I wonder if the center numbers include Smith, and if so, would the PF/C rating look different if his 2012/2013 stats were used? (I'm also assuming here that last year figures most strongly in the calculus.)

Yes, higher = better. This is more roster balance than strength though.

I have lost track of most stats-related stuff over time, but I recall RPM having great explanatory power because it's essentially a multi-year metric. So Smith's numbers are based on all of his three seasons.

Dude is up-to-date, most likely Smith is included. I think he uses a variance of RAPM: http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/xRAPM.html