2019 Mavs Free Agency - Page 34 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Melonhead · 06-09-2019, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Wow. That's too much too early. I guess anything is possible but I'd be surprised

Then expect his contract to get matched by the Bucks. 4/88 would be minimum in hopes not to get matched. They dont owe Giannis yet so in the short term theyll match almost any number.

tap2390 · 06-10-2019, 10:23 AM

IMO forget chasing Brogdon with the Bucks likely to match. Go after D'angelo and put the Nets in a tough position while they pursue bigger fish. Pair him with Danny Green or another 2 who doesn't need the ball and run out:

DLO
Green
Luka
KP
Salah

with THJ, Brunson, Powell, and Maxi your top four off the bench.

SMC0007 · 06-10-2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

IMO forget chasing Brogdon with the Bucks likely to match. Go after D'angelo and put the Nets in a tough position while they pursue bigger fish. Pair him with Danny Green or another 2 who doesn't need the ball and run out:

DLO
Green
Luka
KP
Salah

with THJ, Brunson, Powell, and Maxi your top four off the bench.

Downside is Salah starting.

mac222b · 06-10-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

IMO forget chasing Brogdon with the Bucks likely to match. Go after D'angelo and put the Nets in a tough position while they pursue bigger fish. Pair him with Danny Green or another 2 who doesn't need the ball and run out:

DLO
Green
Luka
KP
Salah

with THJ, Brunson, Powell, and Maxi your top four off the bench.

Danny Green likely staying put.

saclare · 06-10-2019, 12:58 PM

Yea, Danny Green isn't going anywhere, especially if they close this out. Not sure where Powell went in that scenario either.

SMC0007 · 06-10-2019, 01:21 PM

If Powell gets a nice extension, he will likely have to play himself out of a starting position.

Underdog · 06-10-2019, 06:03 PM

White Mamba thinks Kevin Durant should consider signing with Mavs to play with Luka Doncic, Kristaps Porzingis
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...taps-porzingis

pocman · 06-10-2019, 07:39 PM

As a lot of options appear to be unlikely, what do you guys really think of Randle? He’s young, he’s got this “bruiser” profile that would complement KP... Is he a really hopeless defender?

Underdog · 06-10-2019, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pocman

As a lot of options appear to be unlikely, what do you guys really think of Randle? He’s young, he’s got this “bruiser” profile that would complement KP... Is he a really hopeless defender?

I like him for the right price, but he's nowhere near the top of my list... I wouldn't be mad if we ended up with him though.

endtroducing MASKED · 06-11-2019, 01:03 AM

Market reset of sorts is coming with Durant tearing his Achilles. Probably stay with Golden State?

Underdog · 06-11-2019, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

Market reset of sorts is coming with Durant tearing his Achilles. Probably stay with Golden State?

I dunno, the injury may set him back a bit, but you're paying for 4 years... If one team doesn't max him out, another will.

sefant77 · 06-11-2019, 04:02 AM

He is still getting max offers and is taking one

turin · 06-11-2019, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

He is still getting max offers and is taking one

a 4 year max offer where he is rehabbing first year? Damn, that's expensive. Pass.

sefant77 · 06-11-2019, 09:23 AM

There will be enough desperate teams with cap (hello Knicks)

j0Shi · 06-11-2019, 09:49 AM

I do think it has the potential to change the course of free agency should KD decide to stay with the Warriors to rehab. I personally would agree that some team will throw the max at him regardless, but there's definitely an outside shot that he'll stay now. That means one major FA is off the market, moving everyone else up a spot.

SMC0007 · 06-11-2019, 11:18 AM

I wouldn't re-sign him if I were Warriors GM unless it's a no brainer discount. They are in win now mode and he isn't likely going to help them win next year. I'm sure they can do better than settling with an injured KD who at age 30 isn't old, but he is at the later part of his peak and probably won't return to what he was.

KP gets max coming off injury because he is 7 years younger than KD so that is understandable.

Melonhead · 06-11-2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I wouldn't re-sign him if I were Warriors GM unless it's a no brainer discount. They are in win now mode and he isn't likely going to help them win next year. I'm sure they can do better than settling with an injured KD who at age 30 isn't old, but he is at the later part of his peak and probably won't return to what he was.

KP gets max coming off injury because he is 7 years younger than KD so that is understandable.

KD has taken nothing but discounts at GS so Livingston and Iggy types can get paid. He will definitely get a max from GS if he opts out. Especially after what transpired last night.

saclare · 06-11-2019, 11:48 AM

KD getting max dollars is the easiest prediction of this FA period.

SMC0007 · 06-11-2019, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

KD has taken nothing but discounts at GS so Livingston and Iggy types can get paid. He will definitely get a max from GS if he opts out. Especially after what transpired last night.

That's their headache, but It's not what I would do.

sefant77 · 06-11-2019, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I wouldn't re-sign him if I were Warriors GM unless it's a no brainer discount. They are in win now mode and he isn't likely going to help them win next year. I'm sure they can do better than settling with an injured KD who at age 30 isn't old, but he is at the later part of his peak and probably won't return to what he was.

It really doesnt matter because even without KDs salary and declining Livingstons TO, they land around 115m.

So letting Durant go wont help them, specially if they plan to re-sign Draymond next year too.

Not sure if Durant was definately leaving, but i think if the Warriors have the chance to sign Durant to a 4y max deal after he declined his options, they are doing it. And then they are running back the Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond core until everyone is 33-35y old...

Like i said, Durant wont help next season, but they couldnt replace him anyway if they let him walk...

endtroducing MASKED · 06-11-2019, 02:18 PM

The Warriors will do everything possible to keep Durant now. Only way I think he leaves is if he just truly doesn’t want to be there.

SMC0007 · 06-11-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

It really doesnt matter because even without KDs salary and declining Livingstons TO, they land around 115m.

So letting Durant go wont help them, specially if they plan to re-sign Draymond next year too.

Not sure if Durant was definately leaving, but i think if the Warriors have the chance to sign Durant to a 4y max deal after he declined his options, they are doing it. And then they are running back the Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond core until everyone is 33-35y old...

Like i said, Durant wont help next season, but they couldnt replace him anyway if they let him walk...

They could theoretically trade him.

Dtownsfinest · 06-11-2019, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP

Damn man. You're tough.

Steph Curry and Klay Thompson started their careers winning 23 games during their first season together. They had to put pieces next to them. It took 4 more years.

The best Mavs players haven't played together yet. These guys have to gel. It's unrealistic to expect a championship before these players have even played a game.

While true.....the bar should still be to get a championship. They shouldn't go into the season hoping for a 8th seed.

Dtownsfinest · 06-11-2019, 08:53 PM

Did the Warriors have Durant go out there last night just so he can come back and sign with them?

Underdog · 06-12-2019, 01:28 PM

Like a long lost love, it’s time for the Mavericks to reconnect with Al-Farouq Aminu
https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2019/6...-trail-blazers

sefant77 · 06-12-2019, 02:59 PM

Mavsmoneyball just going through every possible FA, huh...

DavidDaMonkey · 06-12-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Mavsmoneyball just going through every possible FA, huh...

Yep. At the beginning of the offseason they made a post saying that was their plan.

If you're curious:

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2019/5...-2019-coverage

tap2390 · 06-12-2019, 03:35 PM

I know I've taken every stance on this but honestly an offseason signing 2-3 mid tier free agents wouldn't be the worst thing. Infuse Beverly, Aminu, Dedmon, and #37 into Luka, KP, Powell, Brunson, and THJ and you have a balanced and deep roster.

hayth.james.g · 06-12-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I know I've taken every stance on this but honestly an offseason signing 2-3 mid tier free agents wouldn't be the worst thing. Infuse Beverly, Aminu, Dedmon, and #37 into Luka, KP, Powell, Brunson, and THJ and you have a balanced and deep roster.

These adds would be a huge win IMO. Maintain long term flexibility, develop our core, and compete immediately. If you do this, why not go Brogdon instead of Beverley though?

endtroducing MASKED · 06-12-2019, 11:01 PM

Because Brogdon is going to get a max contract

pocman · 06-13-2019, 12:55 AM

Guys what do you think about d’Angelo Russel (following rumors or Kyrie to Nets)? The age / overall talent would be awesome but the fit is questionable (ball dominant, not a catch and shooter, 3p% ok but not great)... However he did perform in BK with other ball dominant guards (LaVert and Dinwiddie).

j0Shi · 06-13-2019, 01:05 AM

Two solid starters are still my preferred outcome, especially now with the KD situation. I'd definitely go for Kemba then D-Lo.

JJP · 06-13-2019, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pocman

Guys what do you think about d’Angelo Russel (following rumors or Kyrie to Nets)? The age / overall talent would be awesome but the fit is questionable (ball dominant, not a catch and shooter, 3p% ok but not great)... However he did perform in BK with other ball dominant guards (LaVert and Dinwiddie).

He was practically thrown out of LA for some pretty immature locker room behavior, then busted for pot this season. H's exactly the kind of guy you don't need in the Mavs locker room... and I think Carlisle wants no part of that.

I think several people close to the organization have said Carlisle is looking for a veteran presence. That doesn't necessarily mean old, but it does mean that veteran leadership will be important for at least one of the players they get.

As much as I love Brogdon, I'm not sure the Mavs will pay a long-term contract for someone who hasn't been in the NBA that long. That said, the competition for him might be steep. If the mavs were lucky enough to get him, I'd be thrilled... but I think the Mavs might be looking elsewhere. By the way, I don't think he gets a max contract this free agency unless someone dramatically overpays. He's not a superstar. He was a second-round draft pick who has played three years in the NBA. I don't think he has the track record to suddenly become the face of an organization and build a team around him. Only 32 players in the NBA have max contracts, and everybody on this board has heard their names before. There are fans who don't even know who Brogdon is at present. That said, there are organizations dying to throw money at players in order to become relevant, so you never know. I mean we gave Harrison Barnes a max contract.....

Dtownsfinest · 06-13-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

Two solid starters are still my preferred outcome, especially now with the KD situation. I'd definitely go for Kemba then D-Lo.

I think we underrate the overpricing I’d free agents. Seems like guys get overpaid who aren’t stars and stars get market value.

JJP · 06-13-2019, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

While true.....the bar should still be to get a championship. They shouldn't go into the season hoping for a 8th seed.

I don't think this is about "hoping" for anything. It's just about realistic expectations, and the distribution of cap money over time.

I don't think the front office wants to spend all it's money on hired guns for short contracts. They want to "build" a championship that can contend for several years. You'd rather be Golden State than Oklahoma City, and there's a method to that.

EricaLubarsky · 06-13-2019, 01:53 PM

Good center next to KP?

My name is Jonas

endtroducing MASKED · 06-13-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP

He was practically thrown out of LA for some pretty immature locker room behavior, then busted for pot this season. H's exactly the kind of guy you don't need in the Mavs locker room... and I think Carlisle wants no part of that.

My god. Busted for pot. What a character flaw