06-30-2019, 08:35 PM
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As I said after missing out on everyone, if we end up getting Dragic and making Luka Happy this year and possibly having him help us make the playoffs that would be a great get. We lose nothing IMO since this is the last year of his contract.
Actually depending on how this goes I could see a way to giver Whiteside a one year try as well.
Would we be able to send THJ and Lee for Dragic and Whiteside ? We get all the cap space back next year and a decent shot at making playoffs.
Dragic
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Luka
KP
Whiteside
could get us into the playoffs and if it doesn’t work out we have no long term commitment to anyone.
I know Whiteside is not popular around here and I get it. But I would consider.
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06-30-2019, 08:35 PM
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I'm still stunned that Tobias Harris got 5/180. WTH? At these prices, I'm not too sad on the Mavs missing out. I think if I was going to step up and overpay, I'd have gone after Vuc at 4/100. D. Rose would'be been a nice veteran pg pickup at 2/15, and go after Green.
I think the Mavs are going to look for more improvement from their younger guys, and I don't mind that so much. Still, I'd like to at least have a big body in the middle. Maybe Salah will get increased minutes this year <?>. What an unpredictable offseason.
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06-30-2019, 08:35 PM
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#2283
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A rumor out there now has Dragic coming the Mavs as part of a different trade...
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Terrance Atrum
@VH3Yuh
Hearing a 3 team trade between the Wizards, Mavericks and Heat.
Heat would acquire: Bradley Beal
Wizards: Tim Hardaway and Justice Winslow
Mavericks: Goran Dragic and Miami 2nd round pick
Hearing from very credible sources.
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Quote:
Terrance Atrum
@VH3Yuh
Wizards will also be receiving a future Mavericks first round pick
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06-30-2019, 08:35 PM
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I'm still stunned that Tobias Harris got 5/180. WTH? At these prices, I'm not too sad on the Mavs missing out. I think if I was going to step up and overpay, I'd have gone after Vuc at 4/100. D. Rose would'be been a nice veteran pg pickup at 2/15, and go after Green.
I think the Mavs are going to look for more improvement from their younger guys, and I don't mind that so much. Still, I'd like to at least have a big body in the middle. Maybe Salah will get increased minutes this year <?>. What an unpredictable offseason.
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06-30-2019, 08:35 PM
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Are the Mavs even able to give a future 1st right now?
I really hope the trade I shared above doesn't happen.
Last edited by Robillion; 06-30-2019 at 08:39 PM.
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06-30-2019, 08:36 PM
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#2286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED
If we can get Dragic and appease Luka and their agent and also dump some salary somewhere....one year of Dragic is good.
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You are stepping in a dangerous territory signing guys simply to appease guys on your team. There has to be younger guys out there that will appease Luka.
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06-30-2019, 08:36 PM
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Trade makes no sense and I’m hearing it nowhere
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06-30-2019, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robillion
A rumor out there now has Dragic coming the Mavs as part of a different trade...
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SMH....we should be trying to get Bradley Beal....Dragic? Lord have mercy..........
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06-30-2019, 08:37 PM
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Now officially reported on ESPn
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06-30-2019, 08:38 PM
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Still nothing on why.
Do we get picks? Just feel like pairing Luka with a friend?
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06-30-2019, 08:38 PM
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Still nothing on why.
Do we get picks? Just feel like pairing Luka with a friend?
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06-30-2019, 08:39 PM
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Strictly a THJ contract dump in exchange for 1 year dragic rental from the sound of it.
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06-30-2019, 08:39 PM
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Goran for THJ and a second rounder?
Seems reputable. Unclear if we’re sending the pick or receiving it
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06-30-2019, 08:40 PM
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Brad Townsend
Confirming that Dragic will be a Maverick, but what Mavs giving up is unclear.
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06-30-2019, 08:41 PM
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If it’s THJ for Goran, we wouldn’t be losing cap and still could be active
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06-30-2019, 08:41 PM
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Terrance Atrum
Wizards will also be receiving a future Mavericks first round pick
Can the Mavs give up a 1st again. Since we finally paid this years
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06-30-2019, 08:41 PM
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If it’s THJ for Goran, we wouldn’t be losing cap and still could be active
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06-30-2019, 08:42 PM
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If they can shed THJ, that’s fantastic.
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06-30-2019, 08:42 PM
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If they can shed THJ, that’s fantastic.
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06-30-2019, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Trade makes no sense and I’m hearing it nowhere
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@tim_cato: The Mavericks have traded for Miami's Goran Dragic, multiple sources confirm. Dragic is the only other Slovenian in the league, and was roommates with Luka Doncic during Slovenia's 2017 EuroBasket run.
@townbrad: Confirming that Dragic will be a Maverick, but what Mavs giving up is unclear.
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06-30-2019, 08:42 PM
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already posted by Underdog
Last edited by MFFL; 06-30-2019 at 08:43 PM.
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06-30-2019, 08:43 PM
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Ok people I'm confused....can someone provide a link?
Are we trading with Wizards or Heat or what?
This is confusing.
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06-30-2019, 08:44 PM
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Last edited by rimrocker; 06-30-2019 at 08:45 PM.
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06-30-2019, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFFL
Terrance Atrum
Wizards will also be receiving a future Mavericks first round pick
Can the Mavs give up a 1st again. Since we finally paid this years
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Can be 2025 or can be a “swap” in 2020 or 2022
Just can’t completely trade away consecutive years.
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06-30-2019, 08:45 PM
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If we shed THJ, then I might jump to the moon.
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06-30-2019, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rimrocker
Ok people I'm confused....can someone provide a link?
Are we trading with Wizards or Heat or what?
This is confusing.
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Info literally coming out now
Maybe even details being finalized
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06-30-2019, 08:46 PM
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#2307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turin
I'm still stunned that Tobias Harris got 5/180. WTH? At these prices, I'm not too sad on the Mavs missing out. I think if I was going to step up and overpay, I'd have gone after Vuc at 4/100. D. Rose would'be been a nice veteran pg pickup at 2/15, and go after Green.
I think the Mavs are going to look for more improvement from their younger guys, and I don't mind that so much. Still, I'd like to at least have a big body in the middle. Maybe Salah will get increased minutes this year <?>. What an unpredictable offseason.
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This is the going rate for players. Mavs can't be shocked at this point. If you want to play the free agency game you have to overpay. Its just what it is.
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06-30-2019, 08:47 PM
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Now ay the Mavs can give up another 1st rounder....no way. Don't they still owe first rounders for Nerlens Noel, Rajon Rondo and KP?
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06-30-2019, 08:49 PM
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I hope the Mavs tried to do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING in their power to get Bradley Beal because that's who we should be going for.
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06-30-2019, 08:50 PM
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That Beal trade seems fake, for what it’s worth
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06-30-2019, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Now ay the Mavs can give up another 1st rounder....no way. Don't they still owe first rounders for Nerlens Noel, Rajon Rondo and KP?
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The next first round pick we can completely trade away is 2025. 2021 and 2023 are on the way to the Knicks for KP. All other picks are resolved or second rounders.
We can, however, do a "pick swap" where the other team gets the higher of our two picks since we technically retain the pick (example: we pick 10. Wizards draft 20. We'd get the 20 and they'd get the 10.)
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06-30-2019, 08:51 PM
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0% chance Wizards traded Beal for 1 pick and THJ and Winslow. Literally 0% chance.
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06-30-2019, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
0% chance Wizards traded Beal for 1 pick and THJ and Winslow. Literally 0% chance.
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Wizards aren't Phoenix Suns dumb.
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06-30-2019, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED
That Beal trade seems fake, for what it’s worth
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I couldn't believe it. No return at all for a really good player
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06-30-2019, 08:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59E9d0T4azI
I mean, that was fun to watch.
Luka and Goran have really good chemistry together on court. I could see it being even more fun with KP.
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06-30-2019, 08:55 PM
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Doesn't the MAVS have a trade Exception from the BARNES Trade?
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06-30-2019, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitanObvious
Doesn't the MAVS have a trade Exception from the BARNES Trade?
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We either get 28mill in cap or we get a 17mill trade exception. Not both.
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06-30-2019, 08:58 PM
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Oh, Goran makes a big difference on offense, no question. Defense and health are the concerns. But I do think Luka needs someone to help shoulder the offense.
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06-30-2019, 09:01 PM
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< anxiously awaiting the details of the Dragic trade.
With that Wizards trade looking to be fake, it seems we are just taking Dragic into cap space using the Trade Exception and not offloading THJ.
Which would mean no P.Bev, no Green, etc. Unless they accept $9mil over 4 years or something.... Maybe overpay to bring back Seth?
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06-30-2019, 09:01 PM
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double post.. which seems to be keep happening
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