2021-2022 Preseason and camp thread - Page 67 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

I tend to believe that report about Derozan and the Knicks. They'll sell him on being king of New York (well, king of Madison Square Garden anyway) and they were a playoff team with good players. They have the cap space. I'm sure the Heat are his #1 choice but only by a sign and trade where he can get close to the same amount, but then the Heat will have to lose some good players and maybe they value those players more than Derozan. I don't know we'll see, but I sure haven't heard any rumor like Dallas and Derozan have mutual interest like the one with the Knicks.

I just hope they have a solid plan. Picking up Willie to me has to signal some kind of plan. He's the definition of a JAG center to me. Picking up his option I hope means they have an idea of how they will use his salary in a trade or they had an idea that Powell was going to be dealt. I really don't want to punt FA with an Oubre signing. I would love Derozan, I would love to trade THJ and Powell for Hield and Bagley somehow, I'd love to trade for Rozier... I mean there are a lot of options that don't make this a failure but damn... I've been conditioned to believe this is where my misery starts.

G-Man · 08-02-2021, 03:53 PM

Come on, Nico!

saclare · 08-02-2021, 04:05 PM

Sheeeeeesh a lot of forgone conclusions and debbie downers up in here, and FA hasn't even started. We've got tabloid links swaying opinion and creating chaos lol I'll check back after something actually happens...

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 04:06 PM

Windhorst says Bulls interested in Derozan via SnT with Lauri and others.

I could see Bulls going for him. Lavine Derozan Vuc is not bad.

SMC0007 · 08-02-2021, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saclare

Sheeeeeesh a lot of forgone conclusions and debbie downers up in here, and FA hasn't even started. We've got tabloid links swaying opinion and creating chaos lol I'll check back after something actually happens...

Very much this. Fellow posters, rinse yourselves off before coming back in here from twitter lol.

JustJay · 08-02-2021, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Windhorst says Bulls interested in Derozan via SnT with Lauri and others.

I could see Bulls going for him. Lavine Derozan Vuc is not bad.

Yeah I'm not sure what bonified contender he can go to if not the Heat, or the Lakers if he wants the MLE. He will have to settle for a playoff team like Chicago, New York...or Dallas? I think we're better than either of Chicago or New York personally but Dallas is not Chicago or New York.

JustJay · 08-02-2021, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saclare

Sheeeeeesh a lot of forgone conclusions and debbie downers up in here, and FA hasn't even started. We've got tabloid links swaying opinion and creating chaos lol I'll check back after something actually happens...

Do you guys need optimism to make you feel better about yourself? What difference does it make if some of us don't believe we're going to do well in free agency or not. If we do well, you can rub it in our faces. But who cares either way. Pretty sure it's not true that just because everyone believes in the tooth fairy, it becomes real.

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 04:21 PM

Bey not extended.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 04:23 PM

No after the last 2 Off seasons and having ppl blow smoke up my ass and try to pass off piles of crap as premium soil with Delon Wright and holding powder for Giannis over Bogdan I'm gonna be pessimistic if I want to be this time.

I'll keep it in check until things are official though.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-02-2021, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Bey not extended.

Just about to post this. Curry trade now officially an epic fail. Really can't believe they extend to Hinton but not Bey.

purplefrog · 08-02-2021, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

Do you guys need optimism to make you feel better about yourself? What difference does it make if some of us don't believe we're going to do well in free agency or not. If we do well, you can rub it in our faces. But who cares either way. Pretty sure it's not true that just because everyone believes in the tooth fairy, it becomes real.

Can you really argue with Willie?

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 04:30 PM

THJ and Boban re-signing

purplefrog · 08-02-2021, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Maybe Mavs facilitate S&T between Heat and Raptors with end result being Lowry to Heat, Dragic to Mavs, and D.Powell + Burke + M.Brown (can he be traded with other players?) or T.Terry to Raptors. Precious also ends up in Toronto. Raptors desperately need some help at the 5, so maybe Powell (the Canadian) would be attractive.

31 seconds ago – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype
Some around the league believe the Dallas Mavericks will consider trading for Goran Dragic should he end up going to Toronto in the Kyle Lowry sign-and-trade deal with Miami, as ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski mentioned. Dallas can be added as a third team in the Lowry sign-and-trade deal where they get Dragic. The Mavericks can also trade for Dragic separately with Toronto. Both avenues can happen using Dallas’ cap space.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

THJ and Boban re-signing

Well I guess we just hope we spend the rest of the money wisely and make some trades using the contracts we have.

I'm depressed as of this moment though.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-02-2021, 04:37 PM

We love our boys in blue!

Amarelooms · 08-02-2021, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Well I guess we just hope we spend the rest of the money wisely and make some trades using the contracts we have.

I'm depressed as of this moment though.

Cuban you dummy. Better not pay thj more than 15-16 a year. Too streaky a player. Not that good.

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 04:43 PM

Brunson guaranteed. We have a year to extend or he becomes a UFA (albeit one with full bird rights) next season

purplefrog · 08-02-2021, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

THJ and Boban re-signing

So, let's say they sign THJ ($20M) + Boban ($4M)to $24M. Does that mean they only have about $9M left to spend on other FAs? Can they wait on these signings, sign one or two others, and then go over the cap when they sign their own FAs?

JustJay · 08-02-2021, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

We love our boys in blue!

You're being a pessimist, you're supposed to hate our boys in blue.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 04:47 PM

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...10886245535751

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-02-2021, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...10886245535751

Mavs should be all over that.

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 04:51 PM

I'd be happy with keeping THJ and adding Collins.

Amarelooms · 08-02-2021, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs should be all over that.

Absolutely not. Nothing for restricted players.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs should be all over that.

Another Wesley Matthews + Deandre Jordan Deal? Hey Tim... if Collins comes take a starting salary of 14m if he doesn't come though we will give you <insert fort knox here>!!

inb4meltdown.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-02-2021, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Absolutely not. Nothing for restricted players.

It would be for a S&T. Don't think the Mavs could do it with keeping THJ.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 05:03 PM

THJ 4yr 72m

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-02-2021, 05:03 PM

That's not terrible, but I'm still meh til we get Luka some actual help.

JustJay · 08-02-2021, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

THJ 4yr 72m

No more cap space?

Still confused about that.

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 05:05 PM

18 isn't bad honestly.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 05:06 PM

With having his rights we can backload the contract more than others I believe? We can maybe start him at 14.5 or so?

tap2390 · 08-02-2021, 05:06 PM

THJ is back for 4/$72.

I don’t hate it. He’s movable at $18 per.

Melonhead · 08-02-2021, 05:06 PM

Hardaway getting 18m per year btw

saclare · 08-02-2021, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

Do you guys need optimism to make you feel better about yourself? What difference does it make if some of us don't believe we're going to do well in free agency or not. If we do well, you can rub it in our faces. But who cares either way. Pretty sure it's not true that just because everyone believes in the tooth fairy, it becomes real.

No, but you all are exhausting.

G-Man · 08-02-2021, 05:07 PM

THJ. At least we didn't overpay.

SMC0007 · 08-02-2021, 05:13 PM

If you needed proof that we Love our boys in blue.

Bryan_Wilson · 08-02-2021, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

No more cap space?

Still confused about that.

Operating over the cap I imagine. So I can only see MLE being left. Only other additions I think will be trades.

SMC0007 · 08-02-2021, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

Do you guys need optimism to make you feel better about yourself? What difference does it make if some of us don't believe we're going to do well in free agency or not. If we do well, you can rub it in our faces. But who cares either way. Pretty sure it's not true that just because everyone believes in the tooth fairy, it becomes real.

It's the over reaction after every rumor by any random guy reported on Twitter. I totally get the frustration of Mav free agency and am not afraid to pile on here and there.

SMC0007 · 08-02-2021, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Operating over the cap I imagine. So I can only see MLE being left. Only other additions I think will be trades.

Yea. While THJ is meh, at least it looks like we're spending...?

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 05:17 PM

Probably got a discount at 18, but who knows.

I'll be a little overwhelmed if we don't get at least one more starter

EricaLubarsky · 08-02-2021, 05:17 PM

Probably got a discount at 18, but who knows.

I'll be a little overwhelmed if we don't get at least one more starter