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EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2023, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Linked to being in the trade or to getting Martin Jr?

Recent reports are he?s on the move

Lots of rumors (but not this year) that we?d had interest.

Kind of a 1+1=2 but no rumor we?re interested this year

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2023, 02:22 PM

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Not happening but I'd send them Hardy, Bullock, THJ and 2027 1st if they want it to land Siakam

That would cost you Green as well.

And they'd still say no.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2023, 02:31 PM

Oh and so much for that Kyrie is sure to stay report...

https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1674137842635755530

I trust Woj and Stein more, obviously, but we all know how our free agencies go.

sig · 06-28-2023, 02:39 PM

Pels looking for a mobile center and have Valencuinus on the block. Trade them Wood or preferrably the Bullock/McGee combo for 1 year of Valencinus and his 15 mil deal. I like the idea of Mavs trending toward playing faster though but Valenciunus is a good center and rebounds and is respectable from 3. Just big and slow.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2023, 02:41 PM

3/60 Vuc back to Chicago. Kinda a bargain in today's CBA.

Melonhead · 06-28-2023, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Oh and so much for that Kyrie is sure to stay report...

https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1674137842635755530

I trust Woj and Stein more, obviously, but we all know how our free agencies go.

Anyone that doesn?t think he?s looking for max years max money is living in fantasy land. Will he get it is the question.

Of course this will hinder any other FA moves

Amarelooms · 06-28-2023, 04:12 PM

Don?t sign kyrie to max. Rather sign and trade him.

Scoobay · 06-28-2023, 05:02 PM

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Don?t sign kyrie to max. Rather sign and trade him.

Honestly wouldn't be opposed to that - but who could we reasonably trade him for?

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2023, 05:16 PM

Plot twist: Kyrie walks but Hardy is the GOAT next year and makes Lillard look tame. Mavs have room for a max slot.

BPo001 · 06-28-2023, 07:03 PM

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Honestly wouldn't be opposed to that - but who could we reasonably trade him for?

Ayton lol

EricaLubarsky · 06-28-2023, 07:17 PM

Twitter going nuts right now

People think Bullock will be waived
Miles Turner liking Mavs posts about us needing a center
Rumors abound that KAT is coming to DAL or PHX
Kyrie buddy Taurean Prince got waived by Minnie. Now he?s liking all Mavs posts.

Crazy and still 2 days until we can officially talk to outside guys

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2023, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Twitter going nuts right now

People think Bullock will be waived
Miles Turner liking Mavs posts about us needing a center
Rumors abound that KAT is coming to DAL or PHX
Kyrie buddy Taurean Prince got waived by Minnie. Now he?s liking all Mavs posts.

Crazy and still 2 days until we can officially talk to outside guys

I don't get the Prince stuff. Last thing we need is another guy that can't rebound.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-28-2023, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Oh and so much for that Kyrie is sure to stay report...

https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1674137842635755530

I trust Woj and Stein more, obviously, but we all know how our free agencies go.

I don't think anyone should read anything ominous into this. It would be absolutely shocking if Kyrie didn't at least meet with other teams. Him re-singing here is still by far and away the most likely scenario. His value is at an all-time low. I think his probably going to very disappointed by the offers he'll get.

All that being said, we do need to brace ourselves for the possibility he does leave. It will be a major setback in the short run, but turn out might be a blessing in disguise a year or two down the road.

Dallas41 · 06-28-2023, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Don?t sign kyrie to max. Rather sign and trade him.

Sure they could do that

And if they end up missing the playoffs watch Luka walk his ass right out door.

Amarelooms · 06-28-2023, 09:46 PM

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Sure they could do that

And if they end up missing the playoffs watch Luka walk his ass right out door.

Trade for crap load of 1sts and bunch solid players. Ain?t scared that either. Chance rebuild.

MFFL · 06-28-2023, 10:33 PM

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MFFL · 06-28-2023, 10:44 PM

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Reggie Bullock's contract with the Mavericks for next season will be fully guaranteed at midnight at $10.5 million, league sources say.

That figure would have dropped to $5.5 million had Dallas waived Bullock before today's deadline.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-28-2023, 10:53 PM

I mean, it seems like a no-brainer to keep Reggie esp for trade purposes.

SMC0007 · 06-28-2023, 11:12 PM

I hope we stay away from Ayton. Trying to keep him motivated is too much to mess with. Peak performance Ayton would be great, but I'm so tired of not getting enough from big men. It would drive me crazy if he came here and didn't become the absolute best version he could be. I'd rather roll with Holmes and Lively.

SMC0007 · 06-28-2023, 11:15 PM

Reggie has burned me beyond hope. I'm not even wasting any hope that he gets traded which seems like the only logical reason we didn't waive and save. Swell guy and all but when you're a 3&D guy and you don't 3 and don't D...you got jack shit.

Amarelooms · 06-28-2023, 11:25 PM

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Reggie has burned me beyond hope. I'm not even wasting any hope that he gets traded which seems like the only logical reason we didn't waive and save. Swell guy and all but when you're a 3&D guy and you don't 3 and don't D...you got jack shit.

He is hot garbage. Needs be include in any trade

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-29-2023, 08:00 AM

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Reggie has burned me beyond hope. I'm not even wasting any hope that he gets traded which seems like the only logical reason we didn't waive and save. Swell guy and all but when you're a 3&D guy and you don't 3 and don't D...you got jack shit.

I wanna move on from most of the roster, but until we have replacements, welp...

That's why I'm not totally and complete opposed to Ayton. 1. It helps big time with rebounding which still hasn't been addressed. 2. Center, position of need. 3. We get rid of THJ.

Like, would you rather have Ayton or Powell start? Because we all know what's gonna happen if we don't get a starting center...

saclare · 06-29-2023, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Trade for crap load of 1sts and bunch solid players. Ain?t scared that either. Chance rebuild.

Your affinity of jettisoning all-stars and all-time players is second to none here.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-29-2023, 09:26 AM

Looks like Andre Drummond is our stop gap center per Stein.

Mavs really can't close the deal on a legit big man huh?

Melonhead · 06-29-2023, 09:29 AM

Draft night had me thinking optimistic for FA, of course the Mavs would end up with someone like Drummond.

Amarelooms · 06-29-2023, 09:30 AM

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Looks like Andre Drummond is our stop gap center per Stein.

Mavs really can't close the deal on a legit big man huh?

I?ll take him for 4-5 million a year.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-29-2023, 09:46 AM

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Draft night had me thinking optimistic for FA, of course the Mavs would end up with someone like Drummond.

Nope. Draft is our FA.

BPo001 · 06-29-2023, 09:55 AM

Well at least Drummond should fix out rebounding problems. Not sure he does much else though. Stein says McGee is also out of Dallas? plans.

EricaLubarsky · 06-29-2023, 09:55 AM

Sounds like we got Drummond at Min or BAE

Not a bad stop gap as Lively gets experience

EricaLubarsky · 06-29-2023, 09:57 AM

Rumors are we are aggressively trying to dump McGee

Drummond/Lively/Kleber is our center spot? Not a top rotation but okay

Thespiralgoeson · 06-29-2023, 10:01 AM

For anyone complaining about Drummond, the FA market for big men is pretty barren at the moment. You could do a lot worse than Drummond for a cheap stopgap. I'm hoping we can pull off a trade for a significant upgrade, but I'm not holding my breath. Teams aren't just going to give the Mavs a quality center out of kindness. They're almost certainly going to want Hardy or Green and/or FRP. Nobody is chomping at the bit for THJ and filler.

EricaLubarsky · 06-29-2023, 10:04 AM

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For anyone complaining about Drummond, the FA market for big men is pretty barren at the moment. You could do a lot worse than Drummond for a cheap stopgap. I'm hoping we can pull off a trade for a significant upgrade, but I'm not holding my breath. Teams aren't just going to give the Mavs a quality center out of kindness. They're almost certainly going to want THJ or Green and/or FRP. Nobody is chomping at the bit for THJ and filler.

Yeah the FA class like the draft class is BAD

Some decent centers available in trade but we have more needs to fill (backup 1, starting/stopgap 4, etc) so we?re going to go light on center with Lively getting some extra burn so we have the MLE and trades to address the rest

Scoobay · 06-29-2023, 10:11 AM

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Rumors are we are aggressively trying to dump McGee

Drummond/Lively/Kleber is our center spot? Not a top rotation but okay

Holmes not going to get burn as a center for us? or does he slot as a PF?

can we realistically run a line up with Luka/Kyrie/Green/Hardy + big? Luka might have to be guard a big in that line up

EricaLubarsky · 06-29-2023, 10:30 AM

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Holmes not going to get burn as a center for us? or does he slot as a PF?

can we realistically run a line up with Luka/Kyrie/Green/Hardy + big? Luka might have to be guard a big in that line up

Oops! Forgot him. His size is limiting at 6?8? but he can be a smallball center in stretches if he?s not dealt (lots of rumors we?re trying to flip him) and he can play some four next to Lively/Maxi to help the rebounding.

That lineup is okay too. The only issue is Hardy. Small sample size but kyrie was our best PG defender. Luka is PG but he often matched up with the opposing SF/PF and Green defended SG/SF as well as anyone. The big issue would be rebounding. Kyrie and Luka were good but we?d need some decent contributions from center unless both teams just make everything and there aren?t boards to go around

Amarelooms · 06-29-2023, 10:42 AM

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Holmes not going to get burn as a center for us? or does he slot as a PF?

can we realistically run a line up with Luka/Kyrie/Green/Hardy + big? Luka might have to be guard a big in that line up

We will get 3d guy

purplefrog · 06-29-2023, 10:53 AM

"He's a dog. On defense he's a dog. Offensively, he can make shots". - Nico Harrison on Mike Miles Jr.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-29-2023, 11:45 AM

I mean, Drummond is shockingly only 29 and yes, will help with rebounding. But 12 mpg on a Bulls team that couldn't defend isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

As a stop gap center, it works. Just hope Lively plays better sooner vs later. At least the sooner part means you don't have max contract Ayton in the way.

twistaeffect2004 · 06-29-2023, 11:51 AM

Kyrie will meet with Suns and Mavs according to Chris Haynes.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-29-2023, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I mean, Drummond is shockingly only 29 and yes, will help with rebounding. But 12 mpg on a Bulls team that couldn't defend isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

As a stop gap center, it works. Just hope Lively plays better sooner vs later. At least the sooner part means you don't have max contract Ayton in the way.

I mean, unfortunately we can only do so much in one offseason. As you said earlier, we pretty much have to overhaul the entire roster. No matter how aggressive Nico is, chances are we're going to go into next season with at least one of those holes still there.

Thespiralgoeson · 06-29-2023, 11:57 AM

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Kyrie will meet with Suns and Mavs according to Chris Haynes.

I mean I'm sure he'll meet with them, but unless he decides he just doesn't care about money anymore and is going to play for the min, there's no way. They're deep into the luxury tax.