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Old 12-11-2003, 12:07 PM   #1
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Default Hypothetical situation

Did you see Cuban push a drunk fan last night?

If the fan sues Cuban, what do you want him to do?

1. Settle to avoid negative press.
2. Countersue till the guy is out of money and can't afford a ticket and a beer.
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:57 PM   #2
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I saw it, but the guy came up, had both hands on Cuban, and was in his ear. Don't know how that affects the legality of things... but Cuban pushed him away and the guy didn't fall or retaliate.. in fact, the dude looked to be a good bit bigger than Mark.

If I was Mark, and the guy sued, I'd fight like a mofo. But, if I was Mark, I'd hopefully exchange apologies with the guy and snag him a nice ticket for Friday.

But that's me. I'm cool like that.
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Old 12-11-2003, 01:03 PM   #3
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What's he going to sue for? He wasn't injured as far as I can tell.
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Old 12-11-2003, 01:40 PM   #4
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If Mark wouold have done that to me, I would have come back swinging.
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Old 12-11-2003, 04:03 PM   #5
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true dat ape.

Noone...but noone pulls that crap with me. I may end up on the bad side of an ass kicking (doubtful) but that person will have a complete understanding of my point on the issue.
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Old 12-11-2003, 04:26 PM   #6
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Cuban is about 6'5" and works out regularly. You'd better think twice about taking a swing at him.
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Old 12-11-2003, 05:57 PM   #7
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Cuban is about 6'5" and works out regularly. You'd better think twice about taking a swing at him.
Trim that 6'5" down closer to 6'1" and you'll be much closer.

But it would take more than a push for me to take a swing at someone. Of course I might push back, just wouldn't take a swing.

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Old 12-11-2003, 06:00 PM   #8
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I hope nothing happens. I am sick and tired of frivilous lawsuits.
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Old 12-11-2003, 07:29 PM   #9
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Wasn't Cuban a bouncer once? Anyway, if Cuban gives in to a settlement, can you imagine how many bums are going to try to take advantage of him? I'm surprised he still doesn't have a bodyguard.
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Old 12-12-2003, 01:03 AM   #10
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Don't Mess With Mark
Cuban Explains Altercation With Fan

By Mike Fisher -- DallasBasketball.com
Two free throws are missed. The ball remains up for grabs. It falls into the wrong team’s net. The Clippers celebrate ‘as if they’d won a high school championship,’ to paraphrase the Dallas Morning News. And there is one more frozen moment within the pandemonium, something that took just a second to occur, something that was pictured on television for such a brief time that it raises more questions than answers.
One thing is clear, to start: Mark Cuban was unwilling to take somebody’s crap.
Beyond that, we’ll provide some answers ourselves regarding Mavs owner Cuban and his reaction to a heckler who got physical.
“Some guy grabbed me by the upper arm, and dug his nails in me and tried to pull me towards him,’’ Cuban tells DallasBasketball.com in the wake of Wednesday’s wild 100-99 loss at the Clippers. “I pushed him away. …’’
Fox Sports Net’s TV cameras cut to Cuban a few times in the final minutes. He appeared anxious because of the tight game, and as is always the case following a loss, appeared drained and distraught when the final buzzer sounded.
The cameras cut to him as the officials were double-checking the buzzer-beating shot of Glen Rice, and Cuban was shown looking at the Staples Center jumbotron and nodding his head in affirmation of the made shot.
Then, flashing into the picture, coming up to Cuban from behind, was a man. The frame of the camera did not show where the man’s hands and body were in relation to Cuban, but the man’s face was very near the back of Cuban’s head, so presumably, his hands and body were as well. The man said something, and Cuban spun and did indeed ‘push him away.’
What did the man say?
“I have no idea what he said, I just felt the fingernails and felt getting pulled,’’ Cuban tells us.
During Cuban’s term as Mavs owner, much has been made of the ‘proper etiquette’ of someone in his position. The league doesn’t want him sitting on the floor. The refs respond with ‘rabbit ears’ when he yells at them as a fan would. Some fans, as appreciative as they are of Cuban’s major role in the turning around of what was once a woeful franchise, are critical of his outspokenness and omnipresence.
But what happened in LA was not the actions of an ‘owner’ or a ‘billionaire’ and no, it was probably never covered by Emily Post, either.
It’s what any guy does when some stranger grabs you from behind, digs his claws into you, and starts screaming in your ear: you get yourself ‘ungrabbed.’
By the way: If the Mavs players are even aware of this occurrence, maybe they should take note. You think an owner is the wrong guy to send ‘don’t-mess-with-us’ messages? At this point, we’ll accept that message being delivered by anyone in the organization. And if you don’t believe owners can be effective sending messages, good or bad? Then you don’t know the Raiders’ Al Davis, the Kings’ Maloof brothers, the Browns’ Mike Brown, the Yankees’ George Steinbrenner, the Cowboys’ Jerry Jones, the Cardinals’ Bill Bidwill or the Clippers’ own Donald Sterling.
One more thing, lest you believe that Cuban’s initial defense of himself led to additional craziness: Again, he did what any of us would do, and then did top it off with some ‘proper etiquette.’ To wit:
Immediately after the altercation,’ Cuban reports to us, ‘I walked over to security and pointed the guy out, and that was it.’’


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Cuban did the right thing. Thanks for the link, I was curious as to what happened when I saw it on television.
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By the way: If the Mavs players are even aware of this occurrence, maybe they should take note. You think an owner is the wrong guy to send ‘don’t-mess-with-us’ messages? At this point, we’ll accept that message being delivered by anyone in the organization. And if you don’t believe owners can be effective sending messages, good or bad? ...

...One more thing, lest you believe that Cuban’s initial defense of himself led to additional craziness: Again, he did what any of us would do, and then did top it off with some ‘proper etiquette.’
More stupid, brown-nosing from Fish-breath, and just the seed that Cuban needs to have planted--that HE can be the team's enforcer. Idiotic. (Well, actually, he CAN be, but he needs to put the squeeze on from the front office, and needs to start with his own employees.)

No, Cuban didn't do what any of the rest of us would do. As a billionaire team owner, I will not be seated down with the riff-raff, drawing much attention to myself with overwrought demonstrations of anxiety and distress. And if he's going to be down there faux-bad-assing-it with no pretense of self-control, then he can take a cue from Charles Barkley or Michael Jackson or whomever, and hire bodyguards.
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