CBS Sportsline Power Rankings Compare-O! - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

ReDIRKulous · 10-22-2003, 08:44 PM

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/playerrankings/PF

At the CBS sports site they have an efficiency ranking that I think is pretty decent for the regular season player evaluations. I think who ever gets the first seed and has home court throughout the playoffs will have a big advatage since there is no real pecking order among the elite teams. So... since the teams are so different we can't really get a feel for what they are like... so I wanted to try to get a feel on how much each elite team improved. So I averaged all the teams players power rankings last season and this season. A lot of players from San antonio retired though so I couldn't find their rankings. I show averages for 5 players.. then 6.. then 7 and then 8. Here is a little chart comparing them:

team - 5 player power rankings averages(highest), 6 players, 7 players, 8 players, 11 players

Dallas now - 22, 41, 56, 69, 132
Dallas before - 46, 65, 83, 97, 155
Lakers now - 25, 39, 58, 84, 141
Lakers before - 70, 87, 98, 115,161
Twolves now - 35, 41, 55, 71,141
Twolves Before - 55,69, 83,104,167
Spurs now - 79, 89,102,113,151
Spurs before - 82,100,111,146 , ? 
Sacramento Now - 52, 58, 63, 71,114
Sac Before - 56, 63, 76 93, 154

I have no idea what any of this proves... if anything.. I was just curious and bored.

This season -

Dirk Nowitzki # 6
Antawn Jamison # 12
Antoine Walker # 25
Steve Nash # 32
Michael Finley # 33
108 / 5 = 22
Tony Delk #136
41
Shawn Bradley #148
56
Travis Best #162
69
Edwardo Najera #215
TariqAbdul Wahad #339
Danny Fortson #345
1453 / 11 = 132
Josh Howard
Marquis Daniels
on Stefanson

Last season -

Dirk Nowitzki # 6
Steve Nash # 32
Michael Finley # 33
Nick Van Exel #111
Shawn Bradley #148
230 / 5 = 46
Raef LaFrentz #157
65
Adrian Griffin #195
83
Eduardo Najera #215
97
Raja Bell #240
Avery Johnson #329
Tariq Abdul Wahad #339
1705 / 11 = 155
Popeye Jones #365
Evan Eschemeyer #371
Antoine Rigadeau

This season
Kobe Bryant # 2
Shaquille Oneal # 8
Gary Payton # 16
Karl Malone # 18
Dereck Fisher # 80
124 / 5 = 25
Rick fox #112
39
Devean George #172
58
Kareem Rush #265
84
Slava Medvedenko #295
Horace Grant #350
Bryon Russel #228
1546 / 11 = 141
Jannero Pargo #328
Luke Walton
Brian Cook

Last season -

Kobe Bryant # 2
Shaquille Oneal # 8
Derek Fisher # 80
Rick Fox #112
Robert Horry #123
325 / 5 = 70
Devean George #172
87
Brian Shaw #189 - Retired, so had to guess average all players rankings
98
Samaki Walker #234
115
Kareem Rush #265
Mark Madsen #294
Slava Medvedenko #295
1774 / 11 = 161
Jannero Pargo #328
Tracy Murray #360

This season-

Kevin Garnett # 1
Sam Cassell # 27
Latrell Sprewell # 40
Gary Trent # 42
Troy Hudson # 66
176 / 5 = 35
Wally Szczerbiak # 71
6 / 41
Michael Olowokandi #139
7 / 55
Mark Madsen #294
8 / 71
Ervin Johnson #250
Fred Hoiberg #269
Jason Collier #353
1552 / 11 = 141
Reggie Slater #355

Last season -

Kevin Garnett # 1
Gary Trent # 42
Troy Hudson # 66
Wally Szczerbiak # 71
Radoslav Nesterovic # 97
277 / 5 = 55
Kendall Gill #138
69
Rod Strickland #166 - free agent - no ranking averaged
83
Ervin Johnson #250
104
Terrell Brandon #438
Marc Jackson #227
Loren Woods #337
1833 / 11 = 167
Felipe Lopez
Mike Wilks

This season -

Tim Duncan # 4
Tony Parker # 53
Radoslav Nesterovic # 97
Malik Rose #117
Robert Horry #123
394 / = 79
Bruce Bowen #137
89

Ron Mercer #183
102
Manu Ginobli #189
113
Hedo Turkoglu #208
Kevin Willis #266
Anthony Carter #281
1658 / 11 = 151
Sean Marks #362
Dan Langhi
Devin Brown
Alex Garcia

Last season -

Tim Duncan # 4
Tony Parker # 53
Stephen Jackson #101
Malik Rose #117
Bruce Bowen #137
412 / 5 = 82
Manu Ginobli #189 
100
Kevin Willis #266
Speedy Claxton #111
Mengke Bateer #398
Danny Ferry
Steve Kerr
Steve Smith
David Robinson

This season -

Chris Webber # 11
Pedrag Stojakovic # 37
Doug Christie # 62
Brad Miller # 67
Vlade Divac # 83
260 / 5 = 52
Mike Bibby # 85
58
Bobby Jackson # 99
63
Anthony Peeler #127
71
Gerald Wallace #291
Lawrence Funderburke #351
Tony Massenburger #351- no ranking
1251 / 11 = 114
Mark Strickland
Darius Songaila

Last season -

Chris Webber # 11
Pedrag Stojakovic # 37
Doug christie # 62
Vlade Divac # 83
Mike Bibby # 85
278 / 5 = 56
Bobby Jackson # 99
63
Jim Jackson #155 - no ranking - all players averaged
/ 7 = 76
Hedo Turkoglu #208 
93
Gerald Wallace #291
Scott Pollard #318
Lawrence Funderburke #351
1700/ 11 = 154
Damon Jones
Mateen Cleaves

Dooby · 10-23-2003, 08:51 AM

I was led to believe there would be no math on this examination.

ReDIRKulous · 10-23-2003, 08:54 AM

Feel free to use a calculator. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Evilmav2 · 10-23-2003, 08:57 AM

Ridiculous, you are confusing me with this all of these strange names and numbers...

ReDIRKulous · 10-23-2003, 09:06 AM

LOL, I confused myself a bit too.

These are all the player rankings of each team, last season and this season. While the rankings might not be perfect... they should be consistent of all the players that were evaluated.

Like I said though... I don't know what it proves because the Spurs had the lowest combined rankings last season and this season. Yet they still won the championship last season. The onlky thing it really proves is that we had the highest ranked starting five, according to CBS spoortline efficiency ranking. Sacramento appears to be deeper but their starters aren't close to the Mavs. Even LA's starters were not ranked as high as the Mavs but they are very very close.

We also had, on average, the highest ranked five players last season.

Joey · 10-23-2003, 01:52 PM

My head hurts...

jacktruth · 10-23-2003, 02:35 PM

So basically
Mavs, Lakers, TWolves have drastically improved based on last year's power rankings for each player.
Spurs and Kings have not.

The remaining question is "what different does it make?"

because last year and this year, we rank significantly higher than the spurs, but most people, including most people on this board put us behind them.

right?

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ReDIRKulous · 10-23-2003, 02:49 PM

Quote:

The remaining question is "what different does it make?"

because last year and this year, we rank significantly higher than the spurs, but most people, including most people on this board put us behind them.

right?

There is a problem though, because (as I found out when I was half way done) many of the PSurs were not inluded because they were retired. So the Spurs might have actually had a much higher ranking. I just don't know.

I really just did it to give myself an idea of how these teams have changed and how their player stacked up. I would like to incorperate pictures of all the players too... but I got lazy and I don't have webspace to host some kind of graphic that I was thinking of.

The thing is... I always thought the Mavs were much better than the Spurs last year. Also, if Fin hadn't gotten injured we could have had HCA in the WCF.. who knows what would have happend then.

Another reason I did this is because I wanted to test this system out and see if I could predict anything correctly this season using this information.

ReDIRKulous · 02-07-2004, 03:00 PM

Does anyone know what the ranking of records is now of the elite teams versus the other elite teams?

We have the best record against the elite teams, right? And then the it was the Lakers right? This power ranking system might end up being correct after all...

ddh33 · 02-07-2004, 03:09 PM

Wow. Everything looks fuzzy to me right now...

But I think this means that just about everyone in the West has better players now than they did before. It's hard to say that will translate into wins, but it does speak volumes as to what all of us already knew. There is more individual talent on this team than before. It still has to fit together though...

mavsfanforever · 02-07-2004, 07:10 PM

WTF???

Actually
8+10=18 and 18/2=9
9*10/30=3
5*6/2=15

and hence

18+9+3+15=45

sike · 02-07-2004, 07:30 PM

finally I found a purpose for advanced math.............

ReDIRKulous · 02-07-2004, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: mavsfanforever
WTF???

Actually
8+10=18 and 18/2=9
9*10/30=3
5*6/2=15

and hence

18+9+3+15=45

What's up MFF?