Hubie Brown comments: Pertinent to the Mavs? - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Evilmav2 · 03-28-2004, 09:06 PM

Now I know this isn't technically a Mavs related article, but I thought some of Hubie Brown's comments in this ESPN article sound more than a little pertinent to our Mavs' current rotation problems, and that y'all might be interested in reading them...

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Afterward, grizzled Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown was sitting in his office when a "very knowledgeable NBA guy," as Brown described him, came in and told Brown, "Man, you guys have a deep team."

"Yeah," Brown retorted, "we have a deep team because we play our guys. Now let's talk about who didn't play on that (other) team tonight. They are better than our guys who are playing. If they were on our team, they would be playing."

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"We believe -- and this is what we believe, though guys argue this -- but we believe there is no difference between the eighth, ninth and 10th players. Because we are young, we are committed to developing young talent. I would rather have 10 guys come in every night knowing they are going to be playing. Because the worst thing, the worst, and I have been around since 1973, is if they come and play 22 minutes tonight (and the) next game they come they don't even get in. Then the next time, garbage time, 2½ minutes. That is hard. That is hard on that player."

Brown wasn't specific about who the other team was, but only because he was referring to his own team's philosophy, one that has made the Grizzlies one of the success stories of the NBA this season after so many years of moribund mediocrity (which is being kind).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hughes_frank&id=1765840

I wonder what team Hubie have been referring to? I think I can think of a good example to fit the bill...

dude1394 · 03-28-2004, 09:16 PM

Hubie is certainly showing that his "system" works pretty durn well. But he's never won a championship in the NBA so he's a loser right???

jayC · 03-28-2004, 10:01 PM

How is it pertinent to the mavs that we don't play bradley, fortson and williams consistent minutes. Bottom line you play your best players the most minutes. Early on in the season we didn't have a backup point guard and two guard but know we do. Nelson plays who gives him the results and thats the bottom line. Nelson has won the second most games in NBA history, Hubie Brown couldn't hold Nellie's jock.

Listen Nellie has his falls , he still turned around a much worse team then Memphis. Memphis had high lottery picks, Swift third overall, Gasol is a lottery pick. How many mavs are lottery picks a grand total of one. On the entire roster one. We need to get off the nellie can't coach defense. He had a defensive team with the Bucks in the early 80's. This man is an innovator and he gets no credit on this board.

dude1394 · 03-28-2004, 10:05 PM

You might not think hubie is as good as nellie, that's ok. But he's done a great job in memphis. I'm sure that he would say.... "SCOREBOARD"...

Misfit Mav · 03-28-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by: jayCListen Nellie has his falls , he still turned around a much worse team then Memphis. Memphis had high lottery picks, Swift third overall, Gasol is a lottery pick. How many mavs are lottery picks a grand total of one. On the entire roster one.

Sorry to nit-pick, but we have several lottery picks on the roster. Dirk, Walker, Jamison, Bradley, and even Fortson and Tariq Abdul-Wahad (the artist formerly known as Olivier St. Jean) were lottery picks.

harsh euro barge · 03-28-2004, 10:25 PM

I think he means what Dallas started with compared to Memphis...

Misfit Mav · 03-28-2004, 10:40 PM

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I think he means what Dallas started with compared to Memphis...

Ah, okay. Although even then we did have some great lottery picks like Samaki Walker and Gary Trent!

Edit: I can definitely accept the point that Nellie did a great job in turning a very poor Mavericks team into Western-conference contender, but I would say that Hubie Brown (and West) are doing a similarly good job in Memphis.

On specific point that Evilmav brings up, I think the Brown is right about playing guys consistently. I think we'd get more steady play from our role players if they got regular minutes. The spotty play that guys like Bradley get now makes it hard for them to contribute. I think that's the point of this thread; it's not just a Hubie v. Nellie argument.

Murphy3 · 03-28-2004, 11:12 PM

Perhaps it's about time that Bradley is considered one of the Mavs 'better' players since the minutes are reserved for the 'better' players on the team.

PubaNWO · 03-29-2004, 10:15 AM

Grizz and Mavs are two very different teams and each team has to play a certain way.

Mavs aren't as deep or as young and atheletic as the Grizz so they have to play the ones who are more (rooks) and play the old, slow, vets less (including AW which i still don't agree with but worth trying some more).

If Nellie was coaching for the Grizz you think he'd play around still?? I think he'd play the guys with even minutes because he can....he just can't do it with the Mavs....

MavsFanFinley · 03-29-2004, 10:27 AM

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If Nellie was coaching for the Grizz you think he'd play around still??

I think we could have Shaq on this team and Nellie wouldn't play him for one reason or another.

Simon2 · 03-29-2004, 10:34 AM

Lol! Shaq will be out when he passes on a three point shot. Come to think of it. Shaq might just try a few here and there. That would be funny. Shaq on the Mavs and other teams doing the hack-a-shaq on Nellie.

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If Nellie was coaching for the Grizz you think he'd play around still??

I think we could have Shaq on this team and Nellie wouldn't play him for one reason or another.

Chiwas · 03-29-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by: dude1394
Hubie is certainly showing that his "system" works pretty durn well. But he's never won a championship in the NBA so he's a loser right???

One dissimilarity, one similarity.