05-19-2004, 03:38 PM
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Nash for #1 Pick
I bet you could trade Steve Nash for almost any pick in the draft. A proven top 5 PG!! Then we could have our choice of big men Centers in the draft....what do you think??????
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05-19-2004, 03:40 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
I still think that a proven veteran PG is more valuable to this team than any unproven big man.
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05-19-2004, 03:54 PM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
disagree.
i trade a 30 yr old nash any day for a beast in the blocks like okafore.
and twice on sunday. nash might last another 3-4 years at his current pace. okafore will give you 10-11 outstanding years manning the middle. i draft okafore and see if i can let quis develop at the 1.
immediately, you are taller, more athletic, and better defensively.
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05-19-2004, 04:01 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
Not sure, but I doubt many GM's would give up the #1 for Nash.
I really like Nash, but the #1 is reserved for superstar type players. Not that they have been getting it right for years, but that is the expectation. Not just All-star type players.
Yao, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, etc..........
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05-19-2004, 04:07 PM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
As much as I like Nash, i would trade too. He is getting up there, and the point guards have the shortest shelf life in the league. We could trade him for a draft pick, and maybe trade Walker for a Jayson Williams, S&T for Gary Payton, or resign ***gasp*** Nick Van Exel.
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05-19-2004, 04:19 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: Nash13
As much as I like Nash, i would trade too. He is getting up there, and the point guards have the shortest shelf life in the league. We could trade him for a draft pick, and maybe trade Walker for a Jayson Williams, S&T for Gary Payton, or resign ***gasp*** Nick Van Exel.
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If your argument is his age, why do you suggest Payton (5 + years older) and Van Exel (2 + years older) as replacements?
and why Jason Williams?
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05-19-2004, 04:41 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
This team falls apart without Nash. You've all seen it. Why does everybody want Quis to play PG, he is an average passer at best, and fits the natural description of a SG. Who cares about age, Nash is healthy, age hasn't fared as harshly on him as it has on players like Michael Finley. MJ played until he was 41 i think. I say we keep Nash around until he starts getting social security benefits.
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05-19-2004, 04:45 PM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
1. I was just using them as example. I like the idea of either three on the team, but if you can find a better point guard for Walker, than be might guest to tell me.
2. The fact of Nash's age is important for trading for the #1 draft pick, not to keeping him.
3. Both Van Exel and Payton have proven themselves while in their 30s. Although Payton hasn't had a good season, he has not been seen the Lakers' offensive plan before.
4. They can all play well in an uptempo pace, so we wouldn't have to change.
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05-19-2004, 05:24 PM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
We wouldn't be able to trade Nash for the #1 pick. He is going to opt out of his contract, so which GM would trade the #1 pick for someone who may only be on the team for about five days, and if they keep him will cost at least double what the #1 pick makes?
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05-19-2004, 08:59 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
I would trade Nash for the #1 pick AND a chrystal ball.
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05-19-2004, 10:38 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
What about for a top 5 pick or maybe....top 10, then would you do it???
Maybe Orlando's, Toronto's, or Pheonix's 1st round pick for Nash.
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05-20-2004, 12:06 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: bcrav4
What about for a top 5 pick or maybe....top 10, then would you do it???
Maybe Orlando's, Toronto's, or Pheonix's 1st round pick for Nash.
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I wouldnt trade Nash for any pick other than the number one or number two, depending on whether or not Okafor is still on the board.
Now Walker? ...thats a different scenario entirely...can you say anything within the top ten?? Although admittedly I would much more prefer to see Walker traded for a veteran center such as Camby.
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05-24-2004, 06:13 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
so you would trade Walker for a Top 10 pick??
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05-25-2004, 10:17 AM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
the only trade of nash for a pick i make is for the one that guarantees me okafor!
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05-25-2004, 12:57 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
I'd trade Nash in a heartbeat for Okafore, but I don't know if I'd trade for anything less than Okafore.
As for Walker I'd trade him for a top 15 pick.
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05-25-2004, 04:56 PM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
Is anyone going to bring up the fact that we can't just trade Nash? Remember the opt-out......
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05-25-2004, 10:49 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
i'd like to see toronto get the #1 pick. perhaps we could work out some kind of sign and trade with rose, bosh and the #1 coming here. we send out nash, walker, and finley in return.
not sure if this works cap wise, but i can dream [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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05-25-2004, 11:17 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: dalmations202
Not sure, but I doubt many GM's would give up the #1 for Nash.
I really like Nash, but the #1 is reserved for superstar type players. Not that they have been getting it right for years, but that is the expectation. Not just All-star type players.
Yao, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, etc..........
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Iverson? Robinson?...huh?
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05-25-2004, 11:36 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: dalmations202
Not sure, but I doubt many GM's would give up the #1 for Nash.
I really like Nash, but the #1 is reserved for superstar type players. Not that they have been getting it right for years, but that is the expectation. Not just All-star type players.
Yao, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, etc..........
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Iverson? Robinson?...huh?
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I think he meant David Robinson - not Glenn...
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05-26-2004, 06:55 AM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: Murphy3
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Originally posted by: dalmations202
Not sure, but I doubt many GM's would give up the #1 for Nash.
I really like Nash, but the #1 is reserved for superstar type players. Not that they have been getting it right for years, but that is the expectation. Not just All-star type players.
Yao, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, etc..........
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Iverson? Robinson?...huh?
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I think he meant David Robinson - not Glenn...
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Good catch, yes: I meant David Robinson.
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05-26-2004, 07:55 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: dalmations202
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Originally posted by: ddh33
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Originally posted by: Murphy3
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Originally posted by: dalmations202
Not sure, but I doubt many GM's would give up the #1 for Nash.
I really like Nash, but the #1 is reserved for superstar type players. Not that they have been getting it right for years, but that is the expectation. Not just All-star type players.
Yao, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, etc..........
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Iverson? Robinson?...huh?
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I think he meant David Robinson - not Glenn...
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Good catch, yes: I meant David Robinson.
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But still, Iverson?
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05-26-2004, 08:46 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
Would Nash be worth trading to the Clippers for the #2 pick??
I would get the BEST center, nothing else.
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05-27-2004, 09:41 AM
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RE: Nash for #1 Pick
with the number 2 can you get okafor???? isnt that high school kid going #1??????
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05-27-2004, 12:31 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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with the number 2 can you get okafor???? isnt that high school kid going #1??????
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It's either going to be Dwight Howard or Okafor taken at the number one spot...if Orlando does take Howard at the number one we could be looking at a possible last minute trade with the clips to get Okafor. As it stands now however, I dont believe the Magic will want to wait on a highschool prospect to develop when they could have the immediate help of Okafor
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05-27-2004, 01:28 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
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Originally posted by: sike
with the number 2 can you get okafor???? isnt that high school kid going #1??????
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It's either going to be Dwight Howard or Okafor taken at the number one spot...if Orlando does take Howard at the number one we could be looking at a possible last minute trade with the clips to get Okafor. As it stands now however, I dont believe the Magic will want to wait on a highschool prospect to develop when they could have the immediate help of Okafor
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orrrrrrrrrr maybe they'd want a overpaid powerforward who takes bad shots, misses good ones, dribbles too much, turns it over in crunch time.....as the greatest spare of all, chris arnold, says "ya never know"
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05-27-2004, 01:39 PM
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RE:Nash for #1 Pick
Orlando will probabl take Howard, b/c he has way more upside. Life goes on for the Magic even if T-Mac leaves, he could be the next franchise player. He would be battling Rasheed, K-Mart, and Jermain O' Neill for the Eastern Confernce finals.
Is the Magic having Okafur any better than the Hawks having Ratliff?????
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