07-27-2005, 06:21 PM
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Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
By GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
An Algerian who plotted to bomb the Los Angeles airport on the eve of the millennium was sentenced to 22 years in prison Wednesday by a judge who used the opportunity to sternly criticize the Bush administration's anti-terrorism tactics.
"We did not need to use a secret military tribunal, detain the defendant indefinitely as an enemy combatant or deny the defendant the right to counsel," U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour said. "The message to the world from today's sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the ideals that set our nation apart."
The sentence against Ahmed Ressam was significantly lower than the 35 years recommended by prosecutors, but it could have been even shorter had Ressam agreed to testify against two of his alleged co-conspirators.
Ressam, 38, cooperated with the government for about two years, but had quit by 2003, claiming the many months of solitary confinement had taken their toll on his mental state.
Ressam was arrested in Port Angeles in December 1999 as he drove off a ferry from British Columbia with 124 pounds of bomb-making materials. Ressam had a one-night reservation for a hotel in Seattle, prompting the mayor to cancel New Year's Eve celebrations at the Space Needle.
After being convicted of terrorist conspiracy and explosives charges at his 2001 trial, Ressam began cooperating in hopes of winning a reduced sentence. He told investigators from several countries about the operation of terrorist camps and disclosed the identities of potential terrorists, the use of safe houses and other details.
Ressam's information was given to anti-terrorism field agents around the world — in one case, helping to prevent the mishandling and potential detonation of the shoe bomb that Richard Reid attempted to blow up aboard an American Airlines flight in December 2001.
"It is a flat fact that law enforcement, the public and public safety have benefited in countless ways" from Ressam's cooperation, defense lawyer Thomas Hillier said.
U.S. prosecutors insist that without Ressam's help they will have to drop charges against alleged co-conspirators Samir Ait Mohamed and Abu Doha, who has been described as a terrorist recruiter. U.S. Attorney John McKay said that aside from immigration violations, he did not know what charges officials in Europe or Canada might pursue against them.
"It means that two other individuals who we believe to be dangerous will not be prosecuted in this country," he said.
Ressam did not speak in court, but provided a short written statement in which he thanked the judge, renounced violence of any kind and apologized for his actions, Hillier said.
The sentencing hearing may be best remembered for the judge's strong remarks against the Bush administration's efforts to hold some terrorism suspects indefinitely without charges.
"The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism," Coughenour said. "Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution obsolete ... If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won."
McKay said he agreed with the judge's comments that U.S. courts are equipped to handle terrorism cases. He would not comment on the judge's criticism of military tribunals and the handling of enemy combatants.
During the hearing, the judge unexpectedly called Andy Hamilton, a former assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted Ressam at trial, from the courtroom gallery to give a sentencing recommendation.
After noting that Ressam's sentence would be "perhaps the most important sentence this court has ever had," Hamilton told the judge that Ressam's reluctance to cooperate should weigh heavily.
"You can't be a cooperator and a terrorist," he said. "When he stopped cooperating, he went back to being what he was."
With credit for time served and three years off for good behavior, Ressam could be out of prison in 14 years.
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07-27-2005, 06:50 PM
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RE: Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
So in 14 years we will let a terrorist back into society to try and blow up another airport. Sounds like we need firing squads more than courts.
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07-27-2005, 09:06 PM
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RE:Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
These are not crimes, they are acts of war. The detention is far too lenient, and shows that courts are NO place to deal with terroristic combatants.
It's a vain fool of a judge who believes he is more equipped to fight terrorism than the military.
F*ck him.
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07-27-2005, 10:51 PM
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RE: Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
So some lame ass liberal judge took a shot at Bush....oooooohhhh.....mavdookie now has another hero. After all that was his point in posting this.
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07-28-2005, 11:05 AM
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RE:Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
I can hear it now, groups of vigilanties running around like the desparados in Sierra Madre saying "Courts? we don't need no stinkin' courts....."
the rule of law should be paramount. a judge who acknowledges this is neither a liberal nor a conservative, they're merely following American ideals.
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07-28-2005, 12:04 PM
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RE: Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
Although I disagree with the judge's criticism of the war, I thought this was a profound statement:
"The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism," Coughenour said. "Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution obsolete ... If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won."
That is 100% accurate in my opinion.
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07-28-2005, 12:34 PM
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RE: Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
Quote:
"The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism," Coughenour said. "Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution obsolete ... If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won."
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It is accurate but unrelated to guantanomo or terrorists captured in the field and terryibly hyperbolic, our constitution hasn't been rendered "obsolete". The patriot act is a duly passed law (and re-passed by the way), the Iraq war is a duly approved military action and the tribunals have been blessed by our own courts.
The law also has the concept of a court not having jurisdiction. In the case of terrorists US courts do not have "jurisdiction".
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07-28-2005, 04:32 PM
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RE:Would-Be Millennium Bomber Gets 22 Years
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Originally posted by: Mavdog
I can hear it now, groups of vigilanties running around like the desparados in Sierra Madre saying "Courts? we don't need no stinkin' courts....."
the rule of law should be paramount. a judge who acknowledges this is neither a liberal nor a conservative, they're merely following American ideals.
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But leave legal issues to the judiciary, and national security to the military; law to the judges, and war to the generals.
This guy's delusious of grandeur probably won't cost HIM his life; rather it's innocent civilians who will be hoisted on this clown's petard.
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