07-23-2005, 04:53 PM
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More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
At least 88 killed in Egyptian resort blasts
President Mubarak vows to hunt down terrorists
Egyptians inspect a destroyed hotel in the Red Sea resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh after a wave of bombings, on Saturday.
Khaled Desouki / AFP - Getty Images
July 23: The death toll is rising after three bombs exploded at an Egyptian resort town early Saturday. NBC’s Tom Aspell reports from Sharm el-Sheik.
Three explosions rock the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik early Saturday, killing dozens.
July 23, 2005
SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt - Egypt's president vowed on Saturday to hunt down terrorists who unleashed a rapid series of car bombs and another blast in this Egyptian Red Sea resort, devastating a luxury hotel and a coffee shop and killing at least 88 people.
The early morning attacks, Egypt's deadliest terror hit ever, came just two days after the latest strikes in London and sent an already jittery world reeling again. At least 119 people were also wounded, Egypt's Interior Ministry said.
With an al-Qaida-linked group claiming responsibility, Egypt tightened security at other busy tourist sites like the Pyramids and Luxor, and the government and British tourist agencies sent large aircraft to the Sinai to fly home now-nervous tourists.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak flew into Sharm el-Sheik and inspected the scene at the Ghazala hotel. Heavily armed security forces guarded him throughout.
"This cowardly, criminal act is aimed at undermining Egypt's security and stability and harming its people and its guests," Mubarak said later during a live nationally televised broadcast. "This will only increase our determination in chasing terrorism."
Rescue effort ends
Rescue workers gave up the search for more dead or survivors at the Ghazala Gardens hotel, where a car bomb blast flattened the reception area. A few body parts were still being found, but emergency personnel said they did not expect major increases in the death toll.
Egyptian police detained at least 20 people, including local Bedouin tribesmen, for questioning but were not currently suspected of involvement in the blasts, said security officials speaking on condition of anonymity because of the investigation was ongoing. The men were detained near the scene of the bombings.
Pope Benedict XVI was among world political and religious leaders deploring the attacks, calling them "senseless acts." He appealed to terrorists to renounce violence.
Coordinated blasts
The attacks appeared well coordinated. Two massive car bombs, possibly by suicide attackers, went off simultaneously at 1:15 a.m. just more than 2 miles apart.
One car was packed with 660 pounds of explosives and slammed into the reception of the Ghazala Gardens in Sharm's Naama Bay, the main strip of hotels, officials said. The second bomb weighed about 440 pounds and exploded in a nearby area called the Old Market, frequented mainly by Egyptians working in the town's resorts.
A third bomb, believed hidden in a sack, detonated around the same time near a beachside walkway where tourists often stroll at night.
A total of 88 people were confirmed dead, said Dr. Saeed Abdel Fattah, manager of the Sharm el-Sheik International Hospital where the victims were taken. Among the dead were two Britons, two Germans and an Italian, he added, and Czech officials said one Czech tourist was also killed.
Claims of responsibility
There were conflicting claims of responsibility. Several hours after the attacks, a group claiming ties to al-Qaida issued a claim on an Islamic web site.
The group, the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, al-Qaida, in Syria and Egypt, was one of two extremist groups that also claimed responsibility for October bombings at the Egyptian resorts of Taba and Ras Shitan that killed 34. The group also claimed responsibility for a Cairo bombing in late April.
Hours later, a previously unknown group calling itself the Holy Warriors of Egypt faxed a statement to newspapers discounting the al-Qaida claim and saying it carried out Saturday's attack. It listed the names of five people it said were the bombers.
The authenticity of the statements could not be immediately verified.
A top Egyptian official said there are some indications the latest bombings were linked to last fall's Taba explosions.
"We have some clues, especially about the car that was exploded in the Old Market, and investigators are pursuing," said Interior Minister Habib al-Adli. He called it "an ugly act of terrorism."
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07-23-2005, 05:13 PM
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RE: More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
Another dumbass inference by reeds who obviously revels in the terroristic misfortunes of others.
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07-23-2005, 06:00 PM
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RE: More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
What a stupid post. So exactly how many troops does egypt have in iraq and afghanistan? So now Iraq/Afghanistan is the reason that Al Queda is bombing all arabs?
Reeds....are you really Teddy Kennedy? I'm just checking.
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07-24-2005, 08:50 AM
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RE: More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
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Just a question for Reeds? How do you fix it? Do you negotiate with terrorists? Do you give in to their demands? Hand them the power and then cower because they have it? Or do you sit back, and let them grow their power, while doing nothing, and then "talk" about how something should have been done about it long ago?
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07-24-2005, 09:08 AM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
Reeds is one you call a "Useful Idiot", the bombing and blackmail are for people like this, to make them lose their nerve and surrender to the enemies wishes.
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07-24-2005, 05:29 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
"Just a question for Reeds? How do you fix it?"
Well, ask your President how you fix it. His answer was the obvious one- invade Iraq- the center of all evil!!!! What a joke..and you people call me an idiot..Backing the most moronic president in the history of the country- now that is being an IDIOT.
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07-24-2005, 09:17 PM
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RE: More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
It makes me sick when an asshole who enjoys the freedom that our soldiers and allies provide just plain revel in the misfortunes of those who provide that freedom and safety.
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07-25-2005, 08:52 AM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
Egyptians seem to think that terrorists should be blamed. There were some protests against the bombings.
Strangely though, Al Jazeera did not feel Bush and Iraq worthy of a mention. nor did the Bahrain Tribune The Jordan Times mentions that Bush denounced the attacks as Barbaric.
It looks like the protests were against terrorism in general. Strange that someone would think that terrorism is an enemy, that you could protest against, or even go to war against it.
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07-30-2005, 12:57 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
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Originally posted by: reeds
"Just a question for Reeds? How do you fix it?"
Well, ask your President how you fix it. His answer was the obvious one- invade Iraq- the center of all evil!!!! What a joke..and you people call me an idiot..Backing the most moronic president in the history of the country- now that is being an IDIOT.
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The most moronic president in the history of the country? Actually, he's the first president to ever hold an MBA. Look, you can give me all that shit about his family, but I don't care who your father is; you don't graduate from Andover, Yale and Harvard if you're an idiot. BTW, I don't think anyone, including George W. Bush ever suggested that Iraq was the center of all evil. If that were the case, we probably wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan first. And yes, Iraq was the obvious answer... that's why we're there. Because Saddam's regime was obviously in bed with Al Qaeda. Of course, you're probably on the Michael Moore-side, the side that would have us believe.. hey, Saddam's Iraq was a nifty place until Dubya fucked it up and took all their oil... Nevermind that gas prices are higher than ever, maybe... just maybe because we're not taking their oil... And of course Saddam had nothing to do with terrorists... Nevermind that we now have documents proving that Saddam's generals worked with known Al Qaeda operatives to organize the insurgency. And nevermind that Abu Musab Al Zarqawi's network of terrorists had been harbored in Iraq for years, as well as the fact that he was treated in a Bagdhad state-run hospital owned buy Uday Hussein. Nevermind that Osama Bin Laden was offered safe-haven in Iraq. And also nevermind since the invasion we've found plenty of terrorist training camps in the oustskirts of Iraq. And certainly let's not dwell on the fact that since the Oil-for-Food scandal we've uncovered ungodly amounts of evidence that proves that Saddam's regime had worked closely not only with Al Qaeda, but also other terrorist factions such as Hezbollah, and particularly Yassir Arafat's PLO. Yeah, Saddam was a good leader, and had nothing to do with terrorists, but even if he did, so what? I mean, they're not so bad, right? They were right to kill all those little Eichmens... And besides, it's not their fault anyway, right? It's all Dubya's fault.. The most idiotic, stupid, retarded president we've ever had, that somehow managed to mastermind this evil apocalypitc scheme with pure malice and greed, despite being a moron.
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07-31-2005, 10:48 AM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
Bush is not the moron some would paint him, he's an intelligent guy. he's not the only one to have a post graduate degree tho, and MBAs are pretty new in the historical scope of the Presdidency.
I'd put the "most moronic" title on Harding.
Bush didn't say Iraq was the "center of evil" he said it was a part of the "Axis of evil".
evil was there before we invaded, and there's still evil in Iraq today. there's al queda (which wasn't there before we were). those islamist who mimic al queda. more sectarian violence.
certainly good progress in the daily lives of the iraqis has happended. they need much more.
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07-31-2005, 12:31 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
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Bush is not the moron some would paint him, he's an intelligent guy. he's not the only one to have a post graduate degree tho, and MBAs are pretty new in the historical scope of the Presdidency.
I'd put the "most moronic" title on Harding.
Bush didn't say Iraq was the "center of evil" he said it was a part of the "Axis of evil".
evil was there before we invaded, and there's still evil in Iraq today. there's al queda (which wasn't there before we were). those islamist who mimic al queda. more sectarian violence.
certainly good progress in the daily lives of the iraqis has happended. they need much more.
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Good post dog.... but I don't think there is conclusive evidence that al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we invaded.... on that matter I have read nothing but the opposite. I think what is in contention on that issue is whether al Qaeda was present in the portions of Iraq that Hussein still had complete control over.
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07-31-2005, 09:48 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
O, I got it..if you have an MBA, you cannot be a moron.. Yes, Bush is not stupid..just a very very smart moron..
"It makes me sick when an asshole who enjoys the freedom that our soldiers and allies provide just plain revel in the misfortunes of those who provide that freedom and safety. "
And DrBio..I enjoy my freedom plenty, but I will NEVER EVER say that freedom was due to MR. BUSH..that would be a bald faced lie...
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07-31-2005, 11:22 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
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O, I got it..if you have an MBA, you cannot be a moron..
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Didn't say that. I did however say, that if you graduate from Andover, Yale, and Havard, then you're probably not a moron.
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"It makes me sick when an asshole who enjoys the freedom that our soldiers and allies provide just plain revel in the misfortunes of those who provide that freedom and safety. "
And DrBio..I enjoy my freedom plenty, but I will NEVER EVER say that freedom was due to MR. BUSH..that would be a bald faced lie...
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I read it a few times to make sure I wasn't missing anything, and I didn't see any reference to President Bush in that statement, let alone that he is the reason we have freedom. Unless of course "our soldiers and allies" is George W. Bush's codename.
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07-31-2005, 11:38 PM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
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but I don't think there is conclusive evidence that al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we invaded.... on that matter I have read nothing but the opposite. I think what is in contention on that issue is whether al Qaeda was present in the portions of Iraq that Hussein still had complete control over.
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Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO... plenty of terrorists to go around.
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08-01-2005, 11:55 AM
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RE:More bombings..wow, this world sure is safer since we invaded IRAQ isnt it?!
Have we totally eliminated terrorism worldwide? No. Will we? Most likely not, given it's impossible. Have we slowed it down? Yes. In case you haven't remembered, we're not done yet.
Reeds, I'd like you to explain to me how a bombing in Egypt has anything to do with our situation right now.
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