06-12-2007, 04:21 PM
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ESPN Insider Request: Hollinger's Playoff Format Fix
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06-12-2007, 04:26 PM
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How to avoid a lopsided Finals? A whole new playoff format
By John Hollinger
SAN ANTONIO -- For those of you who don't think the NBA's playoff system needs tweaking, let Game 2 be your wake-up call. The NBA's playoff system needs tweaking.
Thanks to the incomprehensible mediocrity of the Eastern Conference, the NBA's marquee event is becoming a joke. The Spurs are so obviously better than the Cavaliers that, LeBron factor or not, this is sure to end up as a total ratings disaster for the league. Forget Tony Parker versus Tony Soprano; how about Tony Parker versus Eva Longoria? One wonders whether ABC would have been better off airing a rerun of "Desperate Housewives" rather than Sunday night's one-sided affair.
So while the Cavs spent the aftermath of Game 2 talking about improving their effort and their execution, we all know there's only thing that could give them a real chance: switching opponents and playing somebody from the East.
Not that they'll admit it publicly.
"It's just an upgrade from series to series," LeBron James said when I asked him about going from Detroit to San Antonio. "From the first round to the second round, conference finals, and then to the Finals, it's an upgrade. It doesn't matter who it is, the intensity level automatically picks up."
Well, that's half true. For the Cavs, it's definitely an upgrade. For the Spurs ... not so much. This is going to upset some Cavs fans, but Cleveland is the weakest team San Antonio has faced in this postseason.
Phoenix, obviously, was superior to Cleveland -- no sane person would dispute this. Additionally, I would submit that Utah and Denver were substantially better, too -- once you adjust for the increased difficulty of the Western Conference and the fact that both were peaking before they ran into the Spurs.
Take it from somebody who was there -- San Antonio's first-round series against Denver was way more intense and competitive than these past two exhibitions. I also would argue the Spurs were far more concerned about the outcome during that matchup than they are in this series, where overconfidence seems to be their biggest enemy.
That's just wrong, on so many levels. This is the freaking Finals, for crying out loud. You know -- Bird versus Magic, Air Jordan versus The Mailman, that type of thing. We should be seeing the cream versus the cream, not the Cavs getting creamed.
I'd like to think this is just a one-year problem, but it was the same deal in the early part of the decade, and the current malaise could go on much longer. With next year's two marquee rookies headed West, and the Eastern Conference mired in gross managerial incompetence, we're one LeBron injury from seeing somebody such as Toronto or Washington representing the East as a "finalist" next year. That should be fun ... for about four games or so.
A great many proposals have been floated for how to fix this problem. One is reseeding the playoffs after each round, but that idea comes up short in two ways. First, it's very problematic for scheduling and TV purposes, in part because a round couldn't begin and matchups couldn't be set until every series in the previous round was done. Second, it wouldn't solve the East-West problem we're addressing here.
Another common idea is to seed all the teams in a single bracket by winning percentage, from No. 1 to No. 16. This, too, has a drawback, though -- it makes the distinction between East and West, or division winner and runner-up, completely meaningless. We'd still like for some of those late-season in-conference battles to have more at stake; besides, the NBA is big on giving all those division winners a little flag to hang from the rafters.
There's a way around this, however, that still enables us to avoid watching an East-West rout in the Finals. (By the way, for those of you who wish to bring up recent East success: The West has won six of the past eight Finals and will make it seven of nine this year. Few of these series were close.)
I stumbled upon this idea the other day when I was talking to another writer and he joked, "They should play West versus East in the first round, not the last."
The more I think about it, this is no joke: They really should play West versus East earlier in the playoffs. It's a great way to reward the West powers while avoiding the train wreck Finals scenario created by the East's awfulness -- a scenario the league has found itself in in 1999, 2001 and 2002 and again this year.
Here's the nitty-gritty.
The regular season would play out just as it does now. Then the league would seed the teams 1 to 8 in each conference, just as it does now.
Then it changes -- the two conferences would cross-match in the playoffs, so every series is set up to be East versus West. Of course, in those cases when the lower-seeded West team is able to eliminate the higher-seeded East team, then we would have West versus West, which means this system would be working exactly as intended: We would have the stronger teams meeting in the later rounds, regardless of conference.
This year, for instance, No. 1 Detroit from the East would have faced No. 8 Golden State from the West, and No. 1 Dallas from the West would have faced No. 8 Orlando from the East.
Although we would have lost the scintillating Warriors-Mavs series, the big picture would have been enhanced greatly under this plan. You can quickly see how much better the next three rounds might have been.
Instead of the league's losing its MVP in the first round, Dallas would have had a virtual bye. And Detroit would have been the team facing the stern challenge of beating a torrid Golden State team that was perhaps the most atypical No. 8 seed the league has seen.
And the situation only improves from there, culminating in an NBA Finals with Phoenix facing Dallas or San Antonio.
BRACKET FOR MY PROPOSAL
"East" Half
(1E) Detroit vs. (8W) Golden State
(4W) Utah vs. (5E) Chicago
(2W) Phoenix vs. (7E) Washington
(3E) Toronto vs. (6W) Denver
"West" Half
(1W) Dallas vs. (8E) Orlando
(4E) Miami vs. (5W) Houston
(2E) Cleveland vs. (7W) L.A. Lakers
(3W) San Antonio vs. (6E) New Jersey
As you can see, Phoenix versus San Antonio -- "the real Finals" -- wouldn't be possible until the final round, rather than in Round 2. And in the second round, we'd get the current doozy between Cleveland and San Antonio, which is entirely appropriate.
Also, if Cleveland did make it to the league's final four, it at least would have had to beat a team with a winning record, which was not true this year. Don't you think the league would have preferred that to what actually happened?
Instead of a neutered East, each side of the bracket has some real teams in it. Utah versus Chicago as a first-round series would have been outstanding, as would the LeBron versus Kobe matchup when the Cavs played the Lakers. And the Nuggets, instead of getting ambushed by a first-round pairing against eventual champion San Antonio (just pretend it's next week already), would have had a much more friendly pairing against injury-wracked Toronto (a matchup that instead benefited a 41-win New Jersey team).
Are there snags here? Absolutely. For starters, every series would have to go to the dreaded 2-3-2 format because of the potential for crazy travel situations (Seattle versus Miami, anyone? How about Portland-Toronto?). Nobody really likes the 2-3-2 -- well, nobody except the road-weary media -- because underdogs have almost no chance of clinching the series at home, which is always way more entertaining than seeing them take it on the road.
Additionally, there's the elephant in the room: television. It's tough for the league to count on an early game and a late game to program doubleheaders around when theoretically there could be several West Coast teams hosting playoff games at the same time.
However, this is really a problem only in the second round. In Round 1, the NBA could set up its TV schedule exactly the way it does now (although it might have to guarantee home court to the top four seeds from each conference to make it work). And in the conference finals, there would be only one game a night anyway, so it shouldn't throw anything off-kilter by that point.
Round 2 would be the biggest potential problem. In theory, there is the potential for, say, Portland, Seattle, Golden State and Phoenix to be hosting playoff games in Round 2 at the same point in the schedule. That might necessitate some funky scheduling -- a 5 p.m. local start for the early game or, alternatively, an 11:30 p.m. start on the East Coast for the late game. But that's an unlikely traffic jam, and one that potentially can be scheduled around via weekend day games and creative use of off days.
Besides, let's keep the big picture in mind. The reward for the chance of a somewhat convoluted schedule in the second round is that we don't have to suffer through a Finals like this one or like the Lakers-Nets massacre in 2002, when the East sent a team to the big showcase that clearly had no business being there and devalued the whole event. Seems to me the benefits more than outweigh the costs, and right now there probably are a few folks at ABC who agree with me.
As I said, Game 2 was the wake-up call. Let's hope the league picks up the phone.
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06-12-2007, 04:32 PM
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Congratulations Cleveland, you are the cream of the crap.
BTW I really like this idea, but it would confuse too many people.
Last edited by Dirkadirkastan; 06-12-2007 at 04:37 PM.
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06-12-2007, 04:43 PM
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I think this idea is pretty good too, it would help the West vs. East imbalance a little bit too I think.
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06-12-2007, 04:47 PM
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Yeah this is interesting, but try explaining it to your casual average joe fan. The second that the sportscenter analysts go into "ok if they playoffs started today" peoples heads would explode.
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06-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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Interesting, logical... but never gonna' happen with this or any other league. There's just too much tradition to give up. Apart from the travel, TV, scheduling problems... just who'd be the WC and EC Champions?
Much easier solution is to have Bennet Salvatore officiate all the finals' games... he can ensure parity like no one else!
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06-12-2007, 06:46 PM
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uh, if the entire west is better than the best of the east, as he seems to be suggesting, then half the country stops watching after round 1.
anyway, I'd rather see that, too. But my favorite team is a favorite, so is unnaffected. The favorites from the east would be reduced to "hopefuls to make it deep," and fans from detroit, cleveland, and new joisy would whine as loud as their teams suck.
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06-12-2007, 07:00 PM
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Decent argument, Lurkin. If one conference is in fact weaker, the NBA would stop bringing in the dough from that side of the country.
Last edited by StackAttack; 06-12-2007 at 07:00 PM.
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06-15-2007, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
uh, if the entire west is better than the best of the east, as he seems to be suggesting, then half the country stops watching after round 1.
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If I'm a Boston fan, I'd watch every minute of a Dallas-SA NBA Finals, and be thrilled the Finals have meaning again.
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06-15-2007, 08:44 PM
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You're still punishing Western Conference teams for playing in a tougher conference. There has to be better ideas out there.
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06-15-2007, 08:50 PM
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re assign teams to each conference
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06-16-2007, 12:14 AM
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Interesting concept but fans want to play their rivals in the playoffs, not some team half a continent away. There is a much smaller chance of meeting your playoff rival in such a plan.
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06-16-2007, 01:09 AM
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Firing every single eastern conference GM would be a better fix than any tweak to the playoff system. The east sucks because they keep letting all the good talent go to the west.
Players traded by east teams to west teams:
Allen Iverson by Philly
Elton Brand by Chicago
Tracy McGrady by Orlando
Mike Miller by Orlando
Tyson Chandler by Chicago
Marcus Camby by New York
Corey Maggette by Orlando
Ray Allen by Milwaukee
Jason Terry by Atlanta
Ron Artest by Indiana
Notable free agents not retained by east teams:
Carlos Boozer by Cleveland
Mehmet Okur by Detroit
Players drafted by East teams who's draft rights were then traded to west teams:
Dirk Nowitzki drafted by Milwaukee
Kobe Bryant drafted by Charlotte Hornets
Nene by New York
High draft picks passed on by East teams
Carmelo Anthony passed on by Detroit for Darko
Deron Williams and Chris Paul by Atlanta and Milwaukee for Bogut and Marvin Williams
Other players several eastern teams had opportunities to draft who ended up in the west:
Josh Howard
Rashard Lewis
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Leandro Barbosa
Kevin Martin
Plain Old Bad Luck
San Antonio wins lottery for Tim Duncan
Portland and Seattle win lottery spots for Oden and Durant
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06-16-2007, 05:34 AM
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The East is giving up their players but they are all in rebuilding mode. Eventually the East will catch back up with the west. Not any time soon though. Even Eastern Conference contenders are still in rebuilding mode. The Bulls are probably the only team worthy of being in the same league as the West.
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06-16-2007, 12:11 PM
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I don't think the east gets wiped out in the first round in this format. I would expect at least 2 teams from each conference to make it to the second round in a given year. Even as lopsided as this year is, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, Toronto and Miami would have legitimate chances of advancing. I don't think they all would, but I think at least 2 would.
It would definitely pressure East owners to fix their teams as the revenue will not be guaranteed for mediocrity like it practically is today.
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