2009 NBA Offseason Thread - Page 10 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

alby · 07-25-2009, 11:47 AM

Not a great move by the Portland front office IMHO.

Tokey41 · 07-25-2009, 02:05 PM

Does this mean Blake is available?

Dtownsfinest · 07-25-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidel

Very good signing by the Blazers. Millers not a perfect fit, but a pretty good vet PG who´s never hurt.

Just imagine if they had taken Durant. They´d easily be among top contenders next year. They might even be without Durant.

What if Oden fullfills his potential? We're looking at an even scarier team than one with Durant on it.

MavsFanFinley · 07-25-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokey41

Does this mean Blake is available?

It sounds like they want to hold on to him since they're offering up Bayless in recent trade talks instead.

MavsFanFinley · 07-25-2009, 07:53 PM

How long is Odom going to drag this out? Make your mind up already.

This guy has broke quite a few trades or signings so hopefully he's right again. Odom, according to sources close to him, is leaning towards the Heats offer.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

wmbwinn · 07-25-2009, 08:51 PM

If Odom goes to the Heat, it will be for pride.

The Heat offer is only for around 6 plus million per year.

The offer he spurned in LA was 9-10 million per year. The tax savings of no state income tax in Florida does not offset that.

I know that the LA offer was withdrawn. Still, with the CBA rules, the Lakers can pay Odom better than the Heat can.

So, if Odom leaves LA, it is for pride.

I think Odom will stay in LA. Better money and another possible ring are in LA.

Justin Credible · 07-25-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wmbwinn

If Odom goes to the Heat, it will be for pride.

The Heat offer is only for around 6 plus million per year.

The offer he spurned in LA was 9-10 million per year. The tax savings of no state income tax in Florida does not offset that.

I know that the LA offer was withdrawn. Still, with the CBA rules, the Lakers can pay Odom better than the Heat can.

So, if Odom leaves LA, it is for pride.

I think Odom will stay in LA. Better money and another possible ring are in LA.

LA offered Odom 3 years at $9m, whereas the Heat offered him 4 years @ MLE. Odom made it clear that his priorities with his contract were equally divided upon money and contract length. So that, combined with all years being guaranteed and the lack of state tax, makes the money almost identical between the two.

I seriously pray that Odom takes the offer from Miami.. That would be quite the blow to LA's bench and knock them down a notch, not to mention I seriously doubt Artest's ability to stay in line and be productive under Kobe Tyrant.

[edit] Whoops, apparently the Lakers offered a 4 year/$36m with only $30m guaranteed and the Heat offered 5 years/$34m with all years guaranteed. Either way, better offer is with the Heat.

Fidel · 07-25-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

Screw contenders Roy, Durant and Aldridge could have been the foundation of a dynasty.

That´s actually what I meant when I said "easily top contenders". I was thinking LA, San Antonio and their Duncan, Kobe (Shaq) stretch.

It´s funny, like Sam Bowie all over again. Though Durant won´t reach the MJ plateau probably, but they allready had Roy, Aldridge and lots of other good players. I´m still impressed by Simmons calling Oden a bust in the making (before the draft, or at draft night I don´t remember) after seing him walk around like an old man.

Fidel · 07-25-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

What if Oden fullfills his potential? We're looking at an even scarier team than one with Durant on it.

I don´t think he has that much upside. He´s just not an elite athlete. He´d be ok on D if he didn´t foul so much (then again that´s basicly the same as saying: he´s not a good defender). Not alot of offensive game (and unlike Howard not at all a freakish athlete to compensate for that). He probably won´t be a complete bust. He might actually develope into a serviceable center, but that´s still a far cry from what Durant should be able to do in his career.

So no I don´t think there´s any way that´ll develop into a good pick for the Blazers. And still I think they might have an underdogs chance to win it all in the next few years. Just tells you what might have been with Durant IMO.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-26-2009, 01:57 PM

This would be the best news of the offseason if it happens...

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Lamar Odom is leaning strongly toward accepting the Miami Heat’s contract offer and leaving the Los Angeles Lakers, multiple sources with knowledge of the talks said.

Odom has not reached a final decision, the sources said, but there is growing belief he will ultimately return to the Heat unless the Lakers improve their current offer.

“It’s close, but it’s not done,” said one source.

Lakers officials and Odom’s representatives resumed talking after a weeklong standoff that began when Jerry Buss, the team’s owner, withdrew a four-year, $36 million offer that guaranteed $30 million. Sources close to Odom said that while the two sides have since talked, Buss is now offering less than the Lakers’ previous proposal.

Odom could sign a five-year, $34 million with the Heat or take a four-year contract that would give him the option to become a free agent in three seasons and seek a more lucrative deal. He also would not have to pay state income tax in Florida.

Odom, who will turn 30 on Nov. 6, played for the Heat during the 2003-04 season – the only season in his 10-year career that he didn’t spend in Los Angeles – and has maintained a good relationship with Dwyane Wade(notes).

Odom’s departure would be a huge loss for the Lakers and an unexpected gift for the Western Conference’s other top contenders. He averaged 11.4 points and 8.2 rebounds last season, and played well during the Lakers’ run to the championship despite being bothered by back spasms. The Lakers replaced Trevor Ariza(notes) with Ron Artest(notes) this summer, but Odom’s length and versatility made him a difficult matchup off the bench for opposing teams.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Robillion · 07-26-2009, 03:28 PM

Odom will leave then the Lakers will turn right around and pick up Warrick. (a downgrade, but not by a ton).. this is why I actually hope Odom takes as much time as he wants. Hold the Lakers hostage!

eyedentifyme · 07-26-2009, 09:24 PM

http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/n...ticleID=261728

They will now have another big time dunker to go along with Lebron.

Underdog · 07-26-2009, 09:31 PM

Captain Yesterday

EricaLubarsky · 07-26-2009, 10:24 PM

who?

Flacolaco · 07-26-2009, 11:59 PM

"Jamario"

If my wife shoots out a boy, and I determine that I hate it and will never love it, I'll name it something like "Jamario".

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap?

Dirkadirkastan · 07-27-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Seriously, where do people come up with this crap?

According to fakebabynames.com, it means "2nd person reference to another person's Nintendo console".

EricaLubarsky · 07-27-2009, 11:56 AM

Artest Made A Habit Of Walking Around In Underwear (and being late)
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar..._in_underwear/

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According to a report from ESPN's Bill Simmons, the Houston Rockets attempted to cover up much of Ron Artest's unique behavior during the 2008-09 season.

Artest nearly missed Game 7 of their series against the Lakers.

Artest missed the first two team buses (the ones for players, coaches and team personnel) from Houston's hotel to the Staples Center and barely made the third and final bus, which was reserved for business staff, sponsors and friends of the team. These stunned people watched Artest sprint to the bus right before it left, jump on and take one of the remaining seats ... yes, wearing only his underwear. Owner Leslie Alexander happened to be sitting on the bus and witnessed the whole thing. And you wonder why the Houston Rockets didn't make any effort whatsoever to bring back Artest.

Simmons writes that Artest made a habit of walking around in public in his underwear during his Houston tenure.

This combined with his contentious nature even with his teammates, and other reports of tardiness not only to practices but to games make me really hope he turns out to be an enormous time bomb for the Lakers.

mavs777 · 07-27-2009, 01:16 PM

That's the style he and marburry should have their reality show!!!

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-27-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Artest Made A Habit Of Walking Around In Underwear (and being late)
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar..._in_underwear/

This combined with his contentious nature even with his teammates, and other reports of tardiness not only to practices but to games make me really hope he turns out to be an enormous time bomb for the Lakers.

This will be even more sweet if the Lakers lose Odom.

LOL, have fun with the nutcase.

sefant77 · 07-27-2009, 01:48 PM

In addition to Thomas, Oklahoma City receives Minnesota’s 2010 second round draft pick and a conditional 2010 second round draft pick in exchange for guards Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.

I wonder if Etan>Gooden...

Justin Credible · 07-27-2009, 01:56 PM

Parker Injured while playing in France

Justin Credible · 07-27-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

In addition to Thomas, Oklahoma City receives Minnesota’s 2010 second round draft pick and a conditional 2010 second round draft pick in exchange for guards Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.

I wonder if Etan>Gooden...

Who would we have traded for that $6.7m worth of players (on top of the pick)? You know a rotation player would be out, and I highly doubt they would've taken Carroll (+garbage) instead of 2 expirings.

Instead, I'd look at it as if it's true that expirings are still "all the rage," therefore making Gooden's contract even more attractive.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-27-2009, 03:58 PM

Chandler for Okafur might be in the works...

"The Hornets and Bobcats are in advanced discussions on a trade that would send center Tyson Chandler to Charlotte in exchange for fellow big man Emeka Okafor, according to NBA front-office sources.

It was not immediately known if the teams are ready to complete the swap -- or if the deal would expand to include other players or teams -- but sources close to the process said talks featuring Chandler and Okafor as the main components have been ongoing since late last week."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4359609

Underdog · 07-27-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Chandler for Okafur might be in the works...

New Orleans would be back on the map if this happened...

BPo001 · 07-27-2009, 04:14 PM

Get on the phone DONNIE!

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-27-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

New Orleans would be back on the map if this happened...

It doesn't make sense for NO though if they are trying to shed salary.

Underdog · 07-27-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It doesn't make sense for NO though if they are trying to shed salary.

That's the rumor, but rumors don't always turn out to be true...

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-27-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

That's the rumor, but rumors don't always turn out to be true...

The rumor that NO is trying to shed salary? Wouldn't Chandler for Smith/Wilcox have been a salary dumping trade if that had gone through? More than a rumor I'd say. Unless you're talking about the Chandler for Okafur rumor.

Windmill360 · 07-27-2009, 04:27 PM

For some reason I'm beginning to doubt the sentiment that New Orleans is hemorrhaging money.

CadBane · 07-27-2009, 05:39 PM

Why the frak would the Bobcats do that?

Robillion · 07-27-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Why the frak would the Bobcats do that?

This is what I have been wondering much more so than NO's motives.

Underdog · 07-27-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Why the frak would the Bobcats do that?

They're shedding salary to sell the team (2-year contract vs. 5-year...)

Like I said before - if they're having a fire sale, I want IN!

(Gerald Wallace or Raja Bell, anyone?)

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-27-2009, 06:34 PM

Why didn't we offer them Damp? To me I'm fine with Okafur as the Dust chip. Yet we settle for Drew Gooden?

quietsavant · 07-27-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Artest Made A Habit Of Walking Around In Underwear (and being late)
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar..._in_underwear/

This combined with his contentious nature even with his teammates, and other reports of tardiness not only to practices but to games make me really hope he turns out to be an enormous time bomb for the Lakers.

I run around my house in my underwear. Sometimes me and my wife do, especially when the kids left. If it weren't for public laws, I would probably shop the local wal-mart naked. I think I may be able to get away with it. Probably would have to around 2 or 3am though. Yes thats what I'll do. Besides the guard is about my age and carries a flashlight and a whistle

Robillion · 07-27-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

Why didn't we offer them Damp? To me I'm fine with Okafur as the Dust chip. Yet we settle for Drew Gooden?

You are fine with getting Okafor in exchange for the DUST chip?... you have no idea do you, heh.

With the DUST chip, if a top free agent (Bosh, Wade, etc) want to leave their respective teams and they threaten their team enough saying they will then we are sitting pretty as the number one option for that player with the DUST chip. Over New York, over whoever.. because Miami or Toronto or Atlanta can sign that agent at an amount moreso than New York or any other team. Rather then let D. Wade, or Bosh, or Johnson walk they could get their player out of their conference, instant cap relief, and possibly a few valuable pieces (Terry or S&T Howard if need be) in return. If Miami knew D. Wade was going to go to New York and leave them for nothing.. and we offer up Terry or Howard, Dust chip, and be willing to take back some salary maybe then they'd do it in a heartbeat and D. Wade would be ecstatic (going to a good team and being paid more).

The DUST chip realistically reallly does have the potential to land us a star player. Id love to have Okafor, but not as much as having one of the top 5 free agents of 2010.

mavErika · 07-27-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Chandler for Okafur might be in the works...

"The Hornets and Bobcats are in advanced discussions on a trade that would send center Tyson Chandler to Charlotte in exchange for fellow big man Emeka Okafor, according to NBA front-office sources.

It was not immediately known if the teams are ready to complete the swap -- or if the deal would expand to include other players or teams -- but sources close to the process said talks featuring Chandler and Okafor as the main components have been ongoing since late last week."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4359609

that part changed in one of the updates to: "It was not immediately known if the teams would expand the deal to include other players, but sources close to the process said talks featuring Chandler and Okafor as the main components have been ongoing since late last week.",

so probably there's no 3-way

edit: another update from M.Stein:

"Initial indications Monday were that no other players will be added to the deal. Sources with knowledge of the talks said this proposal featuring Chandler and Okafor as the main components has been pursued since late last week.

...

Chandler averaged 8.8 points, 8.7 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game last season. It remains to be seen whether Charlotte wanted him because coach Larry Brown, who has at times struggled to mask his frustrations with Okafor's offensive limitations, craves the mobility and athleticism Chandler can supply when he's healthy.

Another possibility, given the uncertainty surrounding Chandler's health after Oklahoma City rescinded the February trade, is that the move is financially motivated on the Bobcats' side. Reducing the team's long-term salary obligations would likely only enhance owner Bob Johnson's stated intention to sell the team.

Provided there are no complications with Chandler's physical in Charlotte, his arrival and Okafor's exit will leave swingman Gerald Wallace as the only holdover from the Bobcats' original roster in 2004-05."

Justin Credible · 07-27-2009, 11:58 PM

The only thing that we could trade right now to match that would be Jet (iirc), and that would give no salary relief whatsoever so I don't see how it could possibly even be considered.

Oh well, good 5 gets traded to a rival. Now if NO could just make about.. idk.. 7 more trades they'd be pretty damn dangerous.

MavsFanFinley · 07-29-2009, 12:54 PM

Marc Stein reports that the Hornets and Ike Diogu are finalizing a deal.

Hornets have made 2 nice moves now.

Mavsfan4ever · 07-29-2009, 12:57 PM

With the moves they are making I can see NO cracking the top five next spring.

Robillion · 07-29-2009, 01:34 PM

Considering Collision as well... I say if they make another rotation player addition they could be just as good as anyone. We do not match up well against NO.. our additions will help.. but...