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That's true. If you want to say it's just b/c of the way Avery did things, it's still a trust issue. How do we know if Carlisle does something that Josh doesn't like he's not going to revert back to the bad way? I know it's key to stay positive...but you still can't forget the faults he has.
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Besides that, unlike some people, I don't see Artest as a 2-3 type of guy. With his strength and body, I actually like him better as a 3-4 kind of guy. He doesn't have the quickness or suddenness I would like this team to have on the perimeter...He doesn't make very good basketball decisions either at times. So ultimately, I'd still go with Josh. But that's just me...Like I said, if the Mavs were convinced that something needed to be done, I could certainly understand it, and I admit that Artest is a very good (even great) player when he wants to be. |
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I really still cannot figure this out. But hopefully you guys can help me.
Why is it that when Dirk was out, Howard had 4 very good second halves, including 3 great fourth quarters (two that led to victories)..... yet he cant do that with Dirk? With all the pressure, with teams focusing on him alot more, he found a way to have 3 20+scoring second halves out of 4 games during our biggest stretch in the season. If Howard really was a choker wouldn't he have been exposed that wee? seeing as how the pressure really was on him to be that scorer? Something tells me Avery again was the root of the problem. Maybe this is why he and Howard clashed? Howard at first liked the idea of being used as the spark who starts off games (remember Avery said that he wanted Howard to start off games, so that Dirk could finish). But as Howard started improving his game he didn't like the idea of being second banana to Terry and Stackhouse (two guys who become Dirk's second options in the 4th). Especially once the media found out about his first half scoring. So during the week Dirk was out, Howard tried to show Avery what he could do when used in the second half, and he flourished. But once Dirk came back, Howard was relegated to his old role and imo thats when things turned. Correct me if I am wrong but weren't Avery and Josh close? What changed? Last edited by EMO_416; 05-29-2008 at 06:55 PM. |
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I heard and read somewhere from someone who supposedly knows Josh Howard that Josh was supposed to be very annoyed at how Avery used him to start games and then never went to him again...Now, I don't know how much of that is true, but my eyes tell me that Josh did get forgotten about in a lot of games.
As far as his play on the court, as I have said before, I really thought Josh almost seemed to be lashing out. He just looked like he was playing angry at the world and very unfocused. There might have been other things going on in his life (as Donnie indicated in an interview), but he is absolutely capable of playing much better than he did at the end of last season. |
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What made the situation chaotic imo was Howard being relegated to his old role after he showed Avery what he could do when used more in the second half during Dirk's four game absence, basically being ignored. And I believe that's when Howard rebelled. Last edited by EMO_416; 05-29-2008 at 07:45 PM. |
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The Mavs must make up for a lack of inside scoring by being in the top 3 as far as 2-PT jump shots, 3-PT jump shots, and FTA's... also must fully utilize Kidd's skillset and manufacture fast break points.
We were the #1 2-PT jump shooting team in the league this year and that's a start. an underreported aspect about this Mavs' season IMO was the 3-PT shooting though. We were like 20th in the league even though we were top 5 in the 2 years prior. Howard, Terry, and Nowitzki all shot 40% + over 2 years ago and regressed this year, although Dirk was very efficient behind the arc after the all star break... Howard's shot just went to shit though. Terry was still a very good 38% though. Maybe I'm looking into numbers too much  .
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If you want to show the coach you can score in the fourth quarter when plays aren't ran for you, then hit the offensive boards, get to the free throw line, and slash to the basket to get open. If you watch Howard in the 4th, sure less plays are called for him, but he just sits his ass at the three point line anyways. Since he's saving himself on offense, he must be manning up like an all defensive player right? Wrong.
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I miss Josh, pre-allstar days.
Post or pre, the guy isn't a legitimate #2 on a championship team. For instance, I would take Odom over Howard straight up and Lamar is the third option on his team.
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Yup, it was a chip on his shoulder. He was getting better and still being a slasher but showing he could add to his game with a jumper. He played hungry and with a major passion, almost to a hot-head fault. He's lost it since then and it's his fault as well as Avery's. If he can have that passion and keep his mouth shut, then he can bring stuff that is desperately needed.
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Watching that interview makes me still have some hope in Josh. I want this guy to work hard and bounce back. He can do it
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When failing a test in school...
"You can't help what the teacher do." When failing driver's ed... "You can't help what the car do." When the landlord ask for the rent... "You can't help what my money do." Farting... "You can't help what my butt do." Dog pees on his mothers rug... "Can't help what the dog do." When getting a girl pregneant and asked to pay child support... "Can't help what my penis do." Last edited by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs; 06-06-2008 at 05:04 PM. |
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I think kobe threw out a "it's crazy" when talking about the balls and how he couldn't control them.
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