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Rod1975 · 10-30-2003, 06:00 PM

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man, that commerical bugs me too! where's the shot-clock violation!

but man, he looked good. his vision is pretty durn good. he does like to go up in the air a lot to make his passes, which is bad fundamentals. but i'll forgive him for it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

He's in the air so freekin long, he's got time to panic, calm down, then make the right pass. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

ReDIRKulous · 10-30-2003, 06:06 PM

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are you saying he tanked it in those games cuz they were not important????

Did you see the quote I just posted?

I don't think LeBron was Tanking on purpose... but I don't think he was playing at full speed -- at all. I have watched every nationally televised game he has been a part of and it is totally obvious that he wasn't playing at anywhere near full speed in his preseason games. I thought he was really nervous or something or he was fatigued in the preseason, but I don't believe that now.

sike · 10-30-2003, 07:17 PM

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“Coach (Paul) Silas told me not to start too early....

so ReDirk is saying that from this quote we can substantiate the fact that he was not playing hard in preseason...this quote could not have meant for a particular game or quarter.....no according to ReDirk, my Dallas-Mavs.com buddy, this is proof that he did not try in the preseason...I don't think that is what James is saying....I know we can not use a confusing quote like this to say anything conclusively...and logic would tell you that James, a Rookie needing all the experience he can get...would need to play to his potential...oh well, like I said previously, unless there are better quotes to be found....no one can prove an opinion like this...but that is part of what is great about this site....fighting for unprovable conjectures

ReDIRKulous · 10-30-2003, 07:32 PM

How many LeBron games have you watched Sike? How closely have you been following him and for how long?

reeds · 10-30-2003, 08:48 PM

Im not buying the "its ONE game" crap. Obviously it was just one game, but that game was full of pressure, full of expectations, full of hype- half the country watched it- and James came up HUGE- in his first game ever- at 18 years of age..that is all I needed to see..of course he will have his ups and downs, everyone does- but that kid is special. Anyone who dont beleive that doesnt know much about basketball. Did anyone see the little things he did? Giving up that monster dunk opp. to wait for the trailer Davis to dunk it?! What rookie does that in his first game? I watched it, and he could have easily scored more points if that was what he wanted- but he wanted him teammates involved. WOW- that is a special player at 18 years old..I give him this year, next, and year three- he will be the best in the game. Better than Kobe,McGrady,Garnett,Kidd,Dirk, everyone...JMHO

grbh · 10-30-2003, 11:14 PM

Did anyone see that pass he just made.

ReDIRKulous · 10-30-2003, 11:27 PM

The skip bounce pass? Or that outlet pass? Either way he is an amazing passer. He looks a little tired tonight and the Suns D looks pretty intense, at least active.

grbh · 10-30-2003, 11:37 PM

The outlet was nice, but that skip pass was incredible.

ReDIRKulous · 10-30-2003, 11:46 PM

That skip pass was so fast you could barely see it... and it was perfectly placed. Who is a better passer in the league right now?

Edit: Is Barkley the anti-christ? What is his deal against LEBRon? It reminds me of his anti Mavs stance. Just blind hatred. Damn I am getting sick of Barkley.

Shaq Attack2 · 10-31-2003, 02:54 AM

Racks up 21 pts on 8-17 shooting (47%) with 12 rebounds and 8 assists. However, he was sloppy with the ball with 7 TO's, though a couple were fumbled by his teammates.

Another great all around game for LeBron.

Big Boy Laroux · 10-31-2003, 10:25 AM

he did look a little more sloppy... but an almost triple double in his second game? damn!

that pass he had to boozer (the bounce pass down the middle of the lane) was awesome. seriously, all the "next jordan" things are crazy. this kid is the next magic. except a hell of a lot more athletic.

two sweet dunks in that game last night. one by lebron and one by chupacabra. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

kingrex · 10-31-2003, 10:36 AM

Not to be a cliche, but Lebron is NOT the next anything skills-wise. He has the court-vision of Magic and the out-of-this world ability of Jordan combined. His mark is yet to be made in this league, but his potential is something this league has not yet seen.

Big Boy Laroux · 10-31-2003, 10:58 AM

right, right, right. he's the first lebron. i know. i was just saying if i had to compare him to anyone, it would be magic. except a hell of alot more atheltic. like i said.

Shaq Attack2 · 10-31-2003, 01:27 PM

Agreed, LeBron looks to be an uber-Magic.

ReDIRKulous · 10-31-2003, 01:38 PM

Why was Kenny and Barkley saying the Cavs should find a real point guard though? Is it because LeBron can't take guys off the dribble at will? I say give the kid time, he can become a great point guard.

kingrex · 10-31-2003, 01:48 PM

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Why was Kenny and Barkley saying the Cavs should find a real point guard though? Is it because LeBron can't take guys off the dribble at will? I say give the kid time, he can become a great point guard.

If I remember correctly, they were making the distinction between a pure point guard and a "scoring point" guard. And with Lebron's scoring ability I think they were making the case that Lebron will be more effective in Cleveland playing shooting guard instead.

Shaq Attack2 · 10-31-2003, 02:54 PM

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Why was Kenny and Barkley saying the Cavs should find a real point guard though? Is it because LeBron can't take guys off the dribble at will? I say give the kid time, he can become a great point guard.

If I remember correctly, they were making the distinction between a pure point guard and a "scoring point" guard. And with Lebron's scoring ability I think they were making the case that Lebron will be more effective in Cleveland playing shooting guard instead.

I'd like LeBron at the 3, actually. He can utilize his passing and athleticism there, both offensively and defensively. Being 6-8 doesn't hurt.

kingrex · 10-31-2003, 02:57 PM

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Why was Kenny and Barkley saying the Cavs should find a real point guard though? Is it because LeBron can't take guys off the dribble at will? I say give the kid time, he can become a great point guard.

If I remember correctly, they were making the distinction between a pure point guard and a "scoring point" guard. And with Lebron's scoring ability I think they were making the case that Lebron will be more effective in Cleveland playing shooting guard instead.

I'd like LeBron at the 3, actually. He can utilize his passing and athleticism there, both offensively and defensively. Being 6-8 doesn't hurt.

With his mad skills as long as he's on the floor it's a plus it seems.

But like you pointed out being 6'8" he will dominate even more against smaller shooting guards, right?

irontoad · 10-31-2003, 02:58 PM

What does everyone think this kid will be averaging by season's end? (pts, rbs, and assists?)

I say: 18.2, 7.0, and 5.5

Shaq Attack2 · 10-31-2003, 03:00 PM

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Why was Kenny and Barkley saying the Cavs should find a real point guard though? Is it because LeBron can't take guys off the dribble at will? I say give the kid time, he can become a great point guard.

If I remember correctly, they were making the distinction between a pure point guard and a "scoring point" guard. And with Lebron's scoring ability I think they were making the case that Lebron will be more effective in Cleveland playing shooting guard instead.

I'd like LeBron at the 3, actually. He can utilize his passing and athleticism there, both offensively and defensively. Being 6-8 doesn't hurt.

With his mad skills as long as he's on the floor it's a plus it seems.

But like you pointed out being 6'8" he will dominate even more against smaller shooting guards, right?

Actually I'd rather have LeBron banging inside because Davis can handle the league's shooting guards just fine by himself (save for obvious greats like Tmac and Kobe).

Then again, LeBron is such a damn fine passer (and the best one of the Cavs) that you can't help but want him to initiate everything.

ReDIRKulous · 10-31-2003, 03:04 PM

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Then again, LeBron is such a damn fine passer (and the best one of the Cavs) that you can't help but want him to initiate everything

This is what I am wondering about... it would make me sick to see the ball taken out of LeBron's hands.

kingrex · 10-31-2003, 03:05 PM

Again, whether playing point, shooting guard or small forward, what a great problem for Cleveland to have.

Lebron is the future, and he'll be Jordanesque in how he influences the outcome of a game.

rakesh.s · 10-31-2003, 04:59 PM

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Then again, LeBron is such a damn fine passer (and the best one of the Cavs) that you can't help but want him to initiate everything

This is what I am wondering about... it would make me sick to see the ball taken out of LeBron's hands.

you're all right..the ball must go through him every possession

in the first two cavs games, down the stretch, they started letting ricky davis and bremer do the handling and that's what cost them