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Bayliss · 10-21-2003, 08:48 PM

1-5 isn't enough shots to determine anything. It's basically 1 made/miss from being at his average. Had he gone 3-5 would your opinion of the 6th man change?

Give it a little more time than 15 minutes and 5 shots.

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 08:49 PM

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good to see the mavs aren't taking care of the ball again

Discount the 4 Off. fouls and it's not that bad.

Last time I checked, playing out of control and picking up offensive fouls is not acceptable. It's just as bad as throwing a bad pass or picking up some other violation

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 08:50 PM

the knee jerking concerning the 6th man experiment is sickening.

MavsFanFinley · 10-21-2003, 08:51 PM

48-41, Utah leads at the half

Howard (13) 0-1, 1-2, 1pt, 1as, 2to's, 1blk

Dirk (20) 5-8, 1-4, 8-9, 19pts, 4rbs, 2as, 1to, 1stl, 2blks

Fortson (9) 0-2, 2-2, 2pts, 5rbs, 1to

Finley (18) 2-7, 2-4, 6pts, 2rbs, 1as, 1blk

Nash (17) 2-4, 4pts, 2rbs, 6as, 2to's

Bradley (6) 1-1, 1-2, 3pts

Jamison (15) 1-6, 0-1, 2pts, 4rbs, 3to's, 1stl

Best (9) 1rb, 1as, 2to's, 1stl

Najera (13) 1-3, 2-4, 4pts, 3rbs, 2stls

It's good to see Dirk taking care of business, but it's a bit concerning that everyone else is providing nothing. Throw in Walker and we just might have a problem on our hands.

grndmstr_c · 10-21-2003, 08:52 PM

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Fortson's going to foul out by halftime next Tuesday.

As long as Shaq ends up on his a$$ at least once it's worth it.

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

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the knee jerking concerning the 6th man experiment is sickening.

Just to make things clear, I am NOT knee jerking. I merely concured with that guy and said however it probably is just an off night. Of course it is merely fact that Jamison would post better stats starting. I attribute this to a off-night and am not off board him coming off the bench.

dirno2000 · 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

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the knee jerking concerning the 6th man experiment is sickening.

Of course I'm joking since it's been one half of one preseason game. It will be something to track though.

Psychedelic Fuzz · 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

What a relief. the first thing I heard when I tuned in was "Shawn Bradley injury report."

grndmstr_c · 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

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good to see the mavs aren't taking care of the ball again

Discount the 4 Off. fouls and it's not that bad.

Last time I checked, playing out of control and picking up offensive fouls is not acceptable. It's just as bad as throwing a bad pass or picking up some other violation

Last I checked it was a rook and a guy who lost some of his PT yesterday that committed those fouls. I'm not saying it's a good thing or excusing it, just pointing out that only about half our TO's at that time were the result of bad passing or careless ball handling.

Bookit · 10-21-2003, 08:56 PM

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Nice 1st half for Dirk: 5-8, 1-4, 8-9, 20 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

J-Ho is off tonight, Jamison looks horrible, hope its not b/c he's coming off the bench. Fort is rebounding great, just needs to put in a lay-up and stop fouling. Mike looks off. Nash is playing well, needs to get under more control. Best looks off. Eddie is killing us on defensive, he does not box out and gives up way too many offensive rebounds.

Are you watching the game? How can you tell Najera is killing us defensively. Actually, I can't ever remember him killing us defensively. Offensively..yes, defensively... I haven't seen it.

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 09:00 PM

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Last I checked it was a rook and a guy who lost some of his PT yesterday that committed those fouls. I'm not saying it's a good thing or excusing it, just pointing out that only about half our TO's at that time were the result of bad passing or careless ball handling

If that's what you're saying, then say it.

However, it's hard to draw that conclusion from this statement:

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Discount the 4 Off. fouls and it's not that bad.

ReDIRKulous · 10-21-2003, 09:01 PM

Jamison didn't come off the bench against San Antonio did he? Because he was only 4 of 12 against them for 9 points.

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 09:02 PM

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Are you watching the game? How can you tell Najera is killing us defensively. Actually, I can't ever remember him killing us defensively. Offensively..yes, defensively... I haven't seen it.

Najera has always been good at getting into the passing lanes and drawing charges. But, everything else on defense, he's either average or well below average. He's a horrific defensive rebounder and he's not a good man-to-man defender. He has difficulty figuring out when to double down on a player and when not to. He has the tendancy to lose his man down low. On the perimeter, he's too slow to guard most 3's.

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:04 PM

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Nice 1st half for Dirk: 5-8, 1-4, 8-9, 20 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

J-Ho is off tonight, Jamison looks horrible, hope its not b/c he's coming off the bench. Fort is rebounding great, just needs to put in a lay-up and stop fouling. Mike looks off. Nash is playing well, needs to get under more control. Best looks off. Eddie is killing us on defensive, he does not box out and gives up way too many offensive rebounds.

Are you watching the game? How can you tell Najera is killing us defensively. Actually, I can't ever remember him killing us defensively. Offensively..yes, defensively... I haven't seen it.

If you can't remember him every killing us on d by his inability to get a defensive rebound, i am curious as if you've ever seen a Mavs game. Najera is a horrible defensive rebounder.

grndmstr_c · 10-21-2003, 09:07 PM

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Last I checked it was a rook and a guy who lost some of his PT yesterday that committed those fouls. I'm not saying it's a good thing or excusing it, just pointing out that only about half our TO's at that time were the result of bad passing or careless ball handling

If that's what you're saying, then say it.

However, it's hard to draw that conclusion from this statement:

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Discount the 4 Off. fouls and it's not that bad.

You said taking care of the ball. To me that's not making bad passes and not being sloppy with your ball handling. You mean it more generically as TO's, fair enough.

Edit: and as you so astutely pointed out by quoting me, I did say it.

Bayliss · 10-21-2003, 09:09 PM

Good Lord. Someone start making some shots. And someone rebound. **laughs** Maybe we should've kept Raef for his rebounding prowess. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

MavsFanFinley · 10-21-2003, 09:10 PM

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:11 PM

Feel free to pass occasionaly Josh, you aren't at Wake anymore [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 09:12 PM

i think it's safe to assume that committing offensive fouls while handling the ball classifies as not taking care of the ball

Bookit · 10-21-2003, 09:14 PM

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Nice 1st half for Dirk: 5-8, 1-4, 8-9, 20 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

J-Ho is off tonight, Jamison looks horrible, hope its not b/c he's coming off the bench. Fort is rebounding great, just needs to put in a lay-up and stop fouling. Mike looks off. Nash is playing well, needs to get under more control. Best looks off. Eddie is killing us on defensive, he does not box out and gives up way too many offensive rebounds.

Are you watching the game? How can you tell Najera is killing us defensively. Actually, I can't ever remember him killing us defensively. Offensively..yes, defensively... I haven't seen it.

If you can't remember him every killing us on d by his inability to get a defensive rebound, i am curious as if you've ever seen a Mavs game. Najera is a horrible defensive rebounder.

Are you and Murph the same person? I think the word "horrific" is a little strong. Najera is very good defensively and only struggled last year when he was injured. If you are listening to the game on the radio(as I am) you can not tell whether Najera is killing us on the defensive end.

grndmstr_c · 10-21-2003, 09:16 PM

Assume whatever you want Murph.

Drbio · 10-21-2003, 09:17 PM

Is anyone actually watching the game? It isn't on my cable. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:17 PM

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Nice 1st half for Dirk: 5-8, 1-4, 8-9, 20 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

J-Ho is off tonight, Jamison looks horrible, hope its not b/c he's coming off the bench. Fort is rebounding great, just needs to put in a lay-up and stop fouling. Mike looks off. Nash is playing well, needs to get under more control. Best looks off. Eddie is killing us on defensive, he does not box out and gives up way too many offensive rebounds.

Are you watching the game? How can you tell Najera is killing us defensively. Actually, I can't ever remember him killing us defensively. Offensively..yes, defensively... I haven't seen it.

If you can't remember him every killing us on d by his inability to get a defensive rebound, i am curious as if you've ever seen a Mavs game. Najera is a horrible defensive rebounder.

Are you and Murph the same person? I think the word "horrific" is a little strong. Najera is very good defensively and only struggled last year when he was injured. If you are listening to the game on the radio(as I am) you can not tell whether Najera is killing us on the defensive end.

LMAO. It is a STATISTICAL FACT that eddie is a putrid defensive rebounder, if you can't tell by watching, just look it up. There are a lot of guards who avg. more drpg then eddie.

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 09:18 PM

sure thing..me and the rest of the basketball fans, players, and coaches throughout the rest of the world.. not a problem

Psychedelic Fuzz · 10-21-2003, 09:18 PM

Fortson with 5 rebounds in 9 minutes. not bad
Is this game really that ugly or is Dick Bavetta senile?

Murphy3 · 10-21-2003, 09:20 PM

gotta love the shot distribution..

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:20 PM

Hmmm....Dirk is near unstoppable in the 1st half, but yeah, let's only get him 1 shot in the 3rd, then put in eddie. Genuis!

EricaLubarsky · 10-21-2003, 09:24 PM

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Feel free to pass occasionaly Josh, you aren't at Wake anymore

He's our second leading assist man right now....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Bayliss · 10-21-2003, 09:24 PM

This has got to be the ugliest game ever. Good thing it isn't on TV.

Psychedelic Fuzz · 10-21-2003, 09:27 PM

I guess it's good it's not televised, but I want to see what Bradley looks like.

Big_Dog · 10-21-2003, 09:27 PM

Can I listen to the game online somewhere??

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:28 PM

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Feel free to pass occasionaly Josh, you aren't at Wake anymore

He's our second leading assist man right now....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Funny how in your quote of me you left out the SMILEY ICON which I clearly had. But I guess that was on accident, right? And at the time he had shot and missed on three straight possesions while mike had one shot and dirk had yet to take one in the 2nd half.

EricaLubarsky · 10-21-2003, 09:28 PM

Howard gets his second block
Daniels makes his presence felt quickly.

EricaLubarsky · 10-21-2003, 09:30 PM

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Feel free to pass occasionaly Josh, you aren't at Wake anymore

He's our second leading assist man right now....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Funny how in your quote of me you left out the SMILEY ICON which I clearly had. But I guess that was on accident, right? And at the time he had shot and missed on three straight possesions while mike had one shot and dirk had yet to take one in the 2nd half.

Funny, I was sure that ctrl+C didnt copy smiley faces.

Hitman · 10-21-2003, 09:31 PM

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Can I listen to the game online somewhere??

On NBA.com you can listen.

Bayliss · 10-21-2003, 09:32 PM

Jamison, Fin and Howard are a combined 5-19. Ugggh.

Dirk and Nash are a combined 7-11.

For a team that is all offense... we sure are stinking up the joint tonight. Someone needs to make some shots.

EricaLubarsky · 10-21-2003, 09:34 PM

the Fort blocks a shot..

MavsFanFinley · 10-21-2003, 09:35 PM

66-60, Utah leads after 3 quarters.

Howard (24) 0-5, 0-1, 3-4, 3pts, 3rrbs, 3as, 3to's, 1stl, 2blks

Dirk (29) 5-9, 1-5, 8-9, 19pts, 6rbs, 2as, 2to's, 3stls, 2blks

Fortson (13) 0-2, 2-2, 2pts, 5rbs, 1to

Finley (26) 2-9, 2-4, 2-2, 8pts, 2rbs, 1as, 1blk

Nash (18) 2-4, 4pts, 2rbs, 6as, 2to's

Bradley (6) 1-1, 1-2, 3pts

Jamison (25) 3-10, 0-1, 1-2, 7pts, 5rbs, 4to's, 1stl

Best (19) 3-3, 2-2, 8pts, 1rb, 2as, 3to's, 1stl

Najera (16) 1-4, 0-1, 2-4, 4pts, 3rbs, 1as, 1to, 2stls

Daniels (4) 1-1, 2pts, 1stl

Dirk41= konsesjonen · 10-21-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by: Dirk41= konsesjonen

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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky

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Feel free to pass occasionaly Josh, you aren't at Wake anymore

He's our second leading assist man right now....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Funny how in your quote of me you left out the SMILEY ICON which I clearly had. But I guess that was on accident, right? And at the time he had shot and missed on three straight possesions while mike had one shot and dirk had yet to take one in the 2nd half.

Funny, I was sure that ctrl+C didnt copy smiley faces.

I wouldn't know. However this cool little button called "quote" allows you to copy and paste the whole statement, smileys and all! I'd recommend that in the futore so you don't misquote someone anymore.

EricaLubarsky · 10-21-2003, 09:38 PM

Howard 3 blocks 4 rebounds
0-5 FGs