With Wallace gone...does that open the door for a trade with Golden State?

[Dirkenstien]

Originally posted by: MightyToine

Why can't we sign OSTERTAG for the MLE this offseason instead of dealing Walker for a center?? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]


What's wrong with KEEPING Walker and Getting a GOOD Center like Ostertag?

Thats most likely what we're going to do this offseason. Unless an obvious must do trade is offered I dont think we're going to move Walker or Jamison this season or this offseason...it all depends on our playoff performance

[ddh33]

Originally posted by: MightyToine
Why can't we sign OSTERTAG for the MLE this offseason instead of dealing Walker for a center?? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]


What's wrong with KEEPING Walker and Getting a GOOD Center like Ostertag?

That's my point. If I were forced to take a guess, I think that is the avenue the Mavs will take unless something rediculous comes along in the next week.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: Dirkenstien

Thats most likely what we're going to do this offseason. Unless an obvious must do trade is offered I dont think we're going to move Walker or Jamison this season or this offseason...it all depends on our playoff performance

Dirk;
I really hate the idea of "standing pat" this year, when we don't know that we can sign Tag, and don't know what injuries/complications will happen in the future. I do truly believe that we are a "good" center away from having the best chance to "win it all" this year. With that said, I only trade one of the forwards for a "Good" center. If not, I keep all of them, and take my chances. The debate comes to - Who is a "Good" Center?

I don't think their is a Center <u>available</u> that the front office thinks would "put us over the top", so I doubt any trades are made. With that said, I don't think we win it all this year, and we retool for next year - still looking for another Center.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

Dirk;
I really hate the idea of "standing pat" this year, when we don't know that we can sign Tag, and don't know what injuries/complications will happen in the future. I do truly believe that we are a "good" center away from having the best chance to "win it all" this year. With that said, I only trade one of the forwards for a "Good" center. If not, I keep all of them, and take my chances. The debate comes to - Who is a "Good" Center?

I don't think their is a Center <u>available</u> that the front office thinks would "put us over the top", so I doubt any trades are made. With that said, I don't think we win it all this year, and we retool for next year - still looking for another Center.

dalmations, I think TAG is a GOOD Center(for this team anyway). Not a Good Center as in Having low-post moves like Hakeem or Big-time Intimidation factor like Shaq....But a Good Solid Center to spell Bradley WHO ALSO BLOCKS AND ALTERS SHOTS JUST LIKE BRADLEY. Plus, TAG has better hands and will DUNK THE BALL unlike Bradley.

I'd say it's a win-win situation for the Mavs. And I really believe that at this point of his career, Tag would want to come home for the MLE if Utah doesn't need him anymore. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]


GO MAVS!!

[dalmations202]

dalmations, I think TAG is a GOOD Center(for this team anyway). Not a Good Center as in Having low-post moves like Hakeem or Big-time Intimidation factor like Shaq....But a Good Solid Center to spell Bradley WHO ALSO BLOCKS AND ALTERS SHOTS JUST LIKE BRADLEY. Plus, TAG has better hands and will DUNK THE BALL unlike Bradley.

I'd say it's a win-win situation for the Mavs. And I really believe that at this point of his career, Tag would want to come home for the MLE if Utah doesn't need him anymore. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]


GO MAVS!!

Then can we get him in here for the run "This Year?" w/o giving up the top 5, + Bradley and Howard?

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: dalmations202

Then can we get him in here for the run "This Year?" w/o giving up the top 5, + Bradley and Howard?

What do you mean "this year"? I'm talking this OFFSEASON, dal. We aren't making any moves for the rest of the season. I don't know if we can win it all this season BUT I *DO* know that Tag can be had for the MLE this offseason.

[dalmations202]

That is my point. We are so close this season. We don't know what will happen next year. Why not make a trade before the deadline to give us the best chance to win this year (season).

[Max Power]

Originally posted by: dalmations202
That is my point. We are so close this season. We don't know what will happen next year. Why not make a trade before the deadline to give us the best chance to win this year (season).

Because by trading one of our better players it will also HURT our chances of winning this year. Trading for a player weakens your team in one area while strengthing it in another. If we could make a trade with Delk and Najera as the major components then go for it. But giving away one of our top six players to get another top six player will not put us over the hump.

A free agent helps double (sorta) by adding talent without subtracting any.

[akaarod03]

GS clearly wants to get rid of NVE despite him saying that he would like to finish his contract there. It looks like NVE will remain a Warrior. Is that actually a bad thing? NVE will not opt out this year but next year. Walker's contract expires next year. The package that I proposed initially...Walker for Dampier and Robinson works under the salary cap. Think about the options GS would have with both Walker and NVE contracts up the following year. They could trade that package if it doesn't work out or they can let them go and have major salary cap room the following year. So not only do they get talent with the acquisition of Walker (something for Dampier) but major salary cap flexibility. Nothing against Robinson...but he's not in their plans...and so the Warriors would love to get rid of his contract as well...which has 2 years remaining after this year. With that said...I think he can play a role here in Dallas.

I just like the balance on the roster for the Mavs:

Nowitski Jamison
Howard Robinson
Dampier Bradley
Finley Delk
Nash Best

Najera, Fortson, Williams, Daniels round out the bench

[MightyToine]

I think Walker can play a much BETTER Role here in Dallas than Dampier ever could or will.


Damp will play well for his contract year, get signed, then promptly "collect his check" each year while going through the motions. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]


sorry but I don't want a LAZY BUM on this team no matter How Big he is. (and before any of you start on Bradley here, At least Bradley BLOCKS SHOTS...Damp does not...much.)

[dalmations202]

I personally want the Mavs to win the championship, preferably this year.
I don't care if Walker stays or goes. I don't care if it is Damp or Tag. I am not worried about Rashweed head.
I will admit that if things go exactly perfect, I think this team can win it all. I just think the odds are not good of that happening, with the personnel they have currently constructed.

Free agency sounds good, but we don't have anything to offer but the MLE. Maybe Tag?? Nothing to help this year.
A trade for talent that meets the needs of this puzzle called the Dallas Mavericks is the only way to make it work, IMO.
Sacramento is the perfect example. They are so close every year for the last 5, but just can't seem to get over the hump. What if Millers ankle from the AS game is worse than expected? What if (insert name here) goes down? Every year it is something, and I don't want Dallas to be Sacramento. I want them to be the Yankees, (when we have a problem, buy the best option available at that time). The systems are different for sure, but the attitude needs to be the same. Did the Yankees care if Bernie Williams was mad that they brought in Loften? No. He is a better defensive center fielder at this time.

I realize that cap issues make this much different, but the attitude that we can be the best, and go get the best is what I am talking about. The attitude from players that Dallas is the place to be. What kid growing up didn't love/hate Cowboys or Yankees? You loved them or hated them, but you had an opinion. The Mavericks need to get to that level. They can't get there, if they don't start winning championships.

[MightyToine]

dalmations, I understand what you're saying but, like Cuban, I'd like to practice something they call PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


That's all.


Let's wait and see what happens......Since they made it to the WCF last year, they would have to get to the finals to demonstrate that this team is BETTER than last years. That's a fact.


Anything less than a Finals appearance will be a disappointment.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: MightyToine
dalmations, I understand what you're saying but, like Cuban, I'd like to practice something they call PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

That's all.
Let's wait and see what happens......Since they made it to the WCF last year, they would have to get to the finals to demonstrate that this team is BETTER than last years. That's a fact.

Anything less than a Finals appearance will be a disappointment.

Let's see. Patience has moved A-Rod to the Yankees who had no patience (But lots of Championships). Patience has Derrian Hatcher in Detroit and in 1st place. Patience has QCarter as our QB instead of Jake Delhomme. Cuban didn't have patience when he took over this floundering team, and why would I want him to go into a half-court slowdown game now? ? He built this team by being bold, and making moves. He knows what moves it will take to move to the next level, and <u>if he can</u> let's do it. If not, then let's not go backwards.

And I agree, anything less than the Championship will be a disappointment.

[MightyToine]

Then all I've got to say is :



GO MAVS!!!!!!!!!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]