Combined GDTs for this sh$#show

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

If the mavs don't make the playoffs I'll probably cheer for either Brooklyn or New York

Can't believe JB has actually turned that sad Knicks franchise around and Brooklyn has surpringly stayed competitive without KD and Kyrie

Maybe we all underapreciated DFS, JB and Dinwiddie

Guess we can blame kidd but in reality he's not the guy who put this roster together.

I think both nico and cuban have flown under the radar while kidd takes all the blame

Understand your point but Nico made the trade for Wood but Kidd wont play him. Nico made the trade to draft Hardy but Kidd wouldnt play him.
Hell, Nico signed the washed up knucklehaded career backup center that Kidd wanted and Kidd wont even play him.
Before the season ends, it wouldnt surprise me at this point to think Kidd will bench Kyrie.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is getting all that he deserves.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Understand your point but Nico made the trade for Wood but Kidd wont play him. Nico made the trade to draft Hardy but Kidd wouldnt play him.
Hell, Nico signed the washed up knucklehaded career backup center that Kidd wanted and Kidd wont even play him.
Before the season ends, it wouldnt surprise me at this point to think Kidd will bench Kyrie.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is getting all that he deserves.

Bingo.

If it was up to Kidd, we'd be playing 5 guards at all times.

Kidd is actually just a worse version of Rick who doesn't know how to call plays.

I can't recall a single end of game situation where I thought Kidd drew up a good play this season.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Bingo.

If it was up to Kidd, we'd be playing 5 guards at all times.

Kidd is actually just a worse version of Rick who doesn't know how to call plays.

I can't recall a single end of game situation where I thought Kidd drew up a good play this season.

Checks out

[saclare]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Understand your point but Nico made the trade for Wood but Kidd wont play him. Nico made the trade to draft Hardy but Kidd wouldnt play him.
Hell, Nico signed the washed up knucklehaded career backup center that Kidd wanted and Kidd wont even play him.
Before the season ends, it wouldnt surprise me at this point to think Kidd will bench Kyrie.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is getting all that he deserves.

This is a succinct way of putting it. It really is a slow self-destruction by Kidd...

As for the tanking aspect, I guess the Friday night game will tell all. How hurt is Luka? Is Kyrie hurt or still dealing with personal issues? Maxi's health, Wood's health, etc.

If the guy's out continue to be, it will be an organic tank to the bottom. Top 10 pick is easily achievable looking at the standings. The schedule could allow for it as there's only a couple of gimmes late (CHA, SAN).

Flip side, the guys are trying to get as close to 100% for a stretch run that could easily be favorable. Just that damn health issue. I just find it hard to believe the team is ready for a tank job after the moves they'd made to win this season and with the West truly open.

[tap2390]

I don't understand those who are saying we have no chance of retaining our pick at all. Just go to tankathon.com and check for yourself.

1) We have the second worst records over the last 10 games in the league.

2) We sit at 34-35.

3) There are 13 games left.

4) We are literally one game ahead of teams (NO, Utah, Toronto are all at 33-36) for the 10th worst record.

Not only do we have a good chance of retaining our pick if we actually *try* to win... we will almost certainly retain it if we tank. We should 100% be tanking. We need the asset more than we need a play-in loss or first round exit.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by tap2390

INot only do we have a good chance of retaining our pick if we actually *try* to win... we will almost certainly retain it if we tank. We should 100% be tanking. We need the asset more than we need a play-in loss or first round exit.

I don't think you have that right. Good chance? In modern English, that usually means more than 50%

1st round exit - 0% chance of keeping our pick
14th (and lose play-in) - 2.4% chance of keeping pick
13th (and lose play-in) - 4.7% chance of keeping pick
12th - 7.2% chance of keeping pick
11th - 9.4% chance of. keeping pick
10th - 13.9% chance of keeping pick

It's unlikely we can even get to 10th worst record in the league, but even then we have an 86.1% chance of giving the pick to New York. I don't think I'd call that a "good chance"

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I don't think you have that right. Good chance? In modern English, that usually means more than 50%

1st round exit - 0% chance of keeping our pick
14th (and lose play-in) - 2.4% chance of keeping pick
13th (and lose play-in) - 4.7% chance of keeping pick
12th - 7.2% chance of keeping pick
11th - 9.4% chance of. keeping pick
10th - 13.9% chance of keeping pick

It's unlikely we can even get to 10th worst record in the league, but even then we have an 86.1% chance of giving the pick to New York. I don't think I'd call that a "good chance"

Not sure where you got this information, but it is just not correct.

If we end up with the 10th-worst record, the only way we DON'T keep our pick is if one of the teams 11-14 leapfrog us during the lottery selection for one of the top-4 picks. We would then be pushed down and out of the top-10 based on inverse record.

Based on my math, if we end up with the 10th worst record, there's a 27.4% chance that one of the teams 11-14 leapfrog us and we lose our pick, meaning there's a 72.6% chance we keep our pick.

Independent of this, there would be a 10.3% chance of us leaping into the top-4.

Meanwhile there is a 0.0% chance we do jack shit in the playoffs.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by saclare

This is a succinct way of putting it. It really is a slow self-destruction by Kidd...

As for the tanking aspect, I guess the Friday night game will tell all. How hurt is Luka? Is Kyrie hurt or still dealing with personal issues? Maxi's health, Wood's health, etc.

If the guy's out continue to be, it will be an organic tank to the bottom. Top 10 pick is easily achievable looking at the standings. The schedule could allow for it as there's only a couple of gimmes late (CHA, SAN).

Flip side, the guys are trying to get as close to 100% for a stretch run that could easily be favorable. Just that damn health issue. I just find it hard to believe the team is ready for a tank job after the moves they'd made to win this season and with the West truly open.

Of course they aren't tanking. If we were Kidd would find a way to fvck it up.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Understand your point but Nico made the trade for Wood but Kidd wont play him. Nico made the trade to draft Hardy but Kidd wouldnt play him.
Hell, Nico signed the washed up knucklehaded career backup center that Kidd wanted and Kidd wont even play him.
Before the season ends, it wouldnt surprise me at this point to think Kidd will bench Kyrie.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is getting all that he deserves.

All I'm saying is Nico and Cuban seem to just fly under the radar for the poor roster construction

Here's a take from another mavs media site

It started in the offseason with trading for Christian Wood. The 6?10 big man has a unique and special offensive skill set, but he has always been a below-average defender. He just does not fit into the way Kidd wants to play. It is like trying to make spaghetti and meatballs with chicken and rice. There are plenty of delicious meals to cook with the ingredients on hand, but it is not what you want to make.

Beyond that, the Mavs do not have a balanced roster. Their personnel is tilted too heavily towards the offensive end of the floor. Dallas does not have a perimeter stopper or any rim protection. They are the worst rebounding team in the league and dreadful defensively. None of that should fall on Kidd?s shoulders. Owner Mark Cuban and the front office must add more talent this summer or Dallas will face a similar fate next season.

Coach Kidd did not put the roster together, but he should take some blame for how he is making them play.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

All I'm saying is Nico and Cuban seem to just fly under the radar for the poor roster construction

Here's a take from another mavs media site

It started in the offseason with trading for Christian Wood. The 6?10 big man has a unique and special offensive skill set, but he has always been a below-average defender. He just does not fit into the way Kidd wants to play. It is like trying to make spaghetti and meatballs with chicken and rice. There are plenty of delicious meals to cook with the ingredients on hand, but it is not what you want to make.

Beyond that, the Mavs do not have a balanced roster. Their personnel is tilted too heavily towards the offensive end of the floor. Dallas does not have a perimeter stopper or any rim protection. They are the worst rebounding team in the league and dreadful defensively. None of that should fall on Kidd?s shoulders. Owner Mark Cuban and the front office must add more talent this summer or Dallas will face a similar fate next season.

Coach Kidd did not put the roster together, but he should take some blame for how he is making them play.

I get that Cuban needs blame too. The FO in general down to the entire coaching staff carry the weight of this seasons failures. It's strategy though because as much as we can say, "This guy or that guy doesn't play the type of defense Kidd likes" or "This guy isn't experienced enough", however, Kidd has done a terrible job with the scheme and even worse exploring lineups.

Some very mediocre guys have been static in thr rotation and SLU. They aren't producing. Nico at least made some moves. Who knows how freely he has been allowed to work. Most coaches are either doing more with this roster or experimenting with the young potential to prep for the future/next season. Kidd has these guys floundering.

Cuban is a doofus. We had major issues with Rick and it lingered on for a cpl years. Then Rick left US. Lol. He doesn't run a tight ship. There's loose ends and mismanagement all over the place and the response is to hire Cynth, Kidd and a Nike rep. I don't mean to bash Cynth and Nico because they may be great behind the scenes. But you'd think Cuban would go after the best available for those 3 spots. Alas, here we are.

[purplefrog]

Spurs Injury Report

Collins - out
Vassell - out
Sochan - out
Bassey - out
Branham - doubtful

This game will be a battle of the benches... might be ugly.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Spurs Injury Report

Collins - out
Vassell - out
Sochan - out
Bassey - out
Branham - doubtful

This game will be a battle of the benches... might be ugly.

Ugly? Something we are already familiar with.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

Spurs Injury Report

Collins - out
Vassell - out
Sochan - out
Bassey - out
Branham - doubtful

This game will be a battle of the benches... might be ugly.

This is why "we can tank to 9th/10th worst is going to be easy" is bullshit.

Mavs are very likely stuck in a bad spot of not being bad enough to keep our pick and not good enough to avoid the inevitable play-in tournament loss.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

All I'm saying is Nico and Cuban seem to just fly under the radar for the poor roster construction

Here's a take from another mavs media site

It started in the offseason with trading for Christian Wood. The 6?10 big man has a unique and special offensive skill set, but he has always been a below-average defender. He just does not fit into the way Kidd wants to play. It is like trying to make spaghetti and meatballs with chicken and rice. There are plenty of delicious meals to cook with the ingredients on hand, but it is not what you want to make.

Beyond that, the Mavs do not have a balanced roster. Their personnel is tilted too heavily towards the offensive end of the floor. Dallas does not have a perimeter stopper or any rim protection. They are the worst rebounding team in the league and dreadful defensively. None of that should fall on Kidd?s shoulders. Owner Mark Cuban and the front office must add more talent this summer or Dallas will face a similar fate next season.

Coach Kidd did not put the roster together, but he should take some blame for how he is making them play.

If Kidd plays Green more earlier in the year or even last season, the pain of losing DFS isnt so severe after the Kyrie trade.

If Kidd plays Hardy more earlier in the year, the Kyrie trade might not have been necessary.

If Kidd plays Wood more than Powell, and plays him at his natural position with a defensive center like McGee, the Mavs would be a better rebounding and defensive team.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is deserving of over 90% of the blame in my opinion.