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Male30Dan · 10-11-2004, 09:38 AM

Only Miami and Buffalo are without a win at this point... This pick could really turn out good...

Look at Buffalo's schedule from here on and you will see at LEAST 7 more losses on their schedule, (Baltimore, NY, N.E., St. Louis, Seattle, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh), with the remaining 5 games being up in the air, (Miami x2, Arizona, Cleveland, and S.F.)...

Let me repeat, this pick could really turn out good...

FineCubanCigar · 10-12-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by: alby
how high do ya'll think cedric benson will be drafted? just curious..

After watching Cedric everyweek .... i dont believe in my heart he is worthy of a top 12 pick. Thats just my opinion. he has been overhyped outa high school.

FineCubanCigar · 10-12-2004, 03:55 PM

yay, the loosing ways continue.... Bledsoe has to have 3-4 wins he can pull out almost single-handedly though.

capitalcity · 10-17-2004, 01:15 PM

Lets go Dolphins!!

FineCubanCigar · 10-18-2004, 04:49 PM

damn, nothing went our way this week!

dirno2000 · 10-18-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by: FineCubanCigar

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Originally posted by: alby
how high do ya'll think cedric benson will be drafted? just curious..

After watching Cedric everyweek .... i dont believe in my heart he is worthy of a top 12 pick. Thats just my opinion. he has been overhyped outa high school.

His draft stock drops everytime he puts the ball on the ground...which is pretty often in the past 3 games.

sike · 10-19-2004, 11:05 AM

just so we know...Stephen Jackson has a 6.9 yard per carry average......

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 11:08 AM

It was under 4 during the game against TB

sike · 10-19-2004, 11:11 AM

under four yards per carry...yeah, I'll take that.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 11:21 AM

So you would take .1 yards per carry??? Thats under four you know!

sike · 10-19-2004, 12:07 PM

I will come over there and slap you dan! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 12:29 PM

Hahaha... Seriously though, I can't make a decision whether or not passing on Jackson was good for the Cowboys until I see what we get back from Buffalo... If Buffalo somehow manages to give us a top 5 pick, it will be VERY hard not to claim Parcells and Jones geniuses... Especially if Jones turns out to be a quality running back!!!

dalmations202 · 10-19-2004, 12:57 PM

The way the Cowboys have been self-destructing lately, they may have 2 top 5 picks next year.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 01:02 PM

I actually would be all for that... I thought we were much better than we are playing out there and if it continues, I say play for the next several years by getting two high picks... Use those picks, our defense, the play of Henson and Jones, and move this team forward!!!

dalmations202 · 10-19-2004, 01:22 PM

Then why would <edit -- anyone want to> move Bryant? Just play him, he definately has skills.
I don't want them to have to go backwards, just to go forward. But you are correct in Henson and Jones being the future though.

I think the problem I am hearing about is the "too many bulls in the pasture" problem.

Keyshawn comes in with a billing of top bull. Bryant has the same attitude as "just throw me the d@#$ ball". Only Keyshawn has a history with the Big Bull (Tuna). Michael Irvin had that attitude -- not bad for a receiver, but can cause problems with more than one on a team. Deion had that attitude.

I just have seen that the "attitude" gets you on top in sports, and can take you to the bottom. Look at TO...he has it. Look at Ray Lewis, and Jamal Lewis. Look at Michael Jordon. All massive egos and attitudes -- which made them be the best.

Big Bill needs to get Bryant involved and let him show his ability. I think he will end up being a #1 receiver on someones team, whether it be the Cowboys or another team.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 01:23 PM

I dont WANT to move Bryant... Did you read the other thread about trading him???

FineCubanCigar · 10-19-2004, 01:28 PM

Na, Bryant shouldn't be moved in my opinion he is one of the best 3rd recievers in the league.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 01:34 PM

Hell, he will eventually be one of the best 2nd receivers in the league if given the opportunity... I personally don't think that Bryant has the ability to become a GREAT #1, but he sure as hell could become a GREAT #2/Pretty Good #1!!!

FineCubanCigar · 10-19-2004, 02:19 PM

well, grrrrr

dirno2000 · 10-19-2004, 02:29 PM

Suddenly WR is a need position in the draft...Braylon Edwards anyone?

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 03:08 PM

This just sucks... I am so pissed at Parcells right now!

FineCubanCigar · 10-19-2004, 04:28 PM

WR DRAFT NEED? no its not Q. Morgan is only 27 and has similar numbers. Furethermore, Glenn is only 30 and K.J. is having a great season and showing no signs of slowing down. He has never been one ot rely on speed in the first place. It would be nice, but it is not a NEED. D-line is a need.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 04:50 PM

I also do not believe that WR is a need for us right now... Maybe in a couple of years, but we should be fine there... We aren't losing games because of our WRs, which is all I am concerned about!!!

dirno2000 · 10-19-2004, 05:39 PM

I posted before I knew that we'd signed Quincy to an extension. Still, I a WR was the best player on the board I'd take him. Our offense can't seem to break the 20 point barrier. If we can get a game breaker (i.e. Roy Williams, Andre Johnson) I'm in favor of it. Otherwise, our running game better improve...a lot.

But yes, D-line is the biggest need position.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 05:45 PM

Are you talking about drafting a WR with the pick Buffalo gives us, or with our first round pick??? Because I don't select a WR with the Buffalo pick no matter who is available, (there will be too many talented players available that serve as a higher need within the first 6 picks)...

Fah Q · 10-19-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by: Male23Dan
Are you talking about drafting a WR with the pick Buffalo gives us, or with our first round pick??? Because I don't select a WR with the Buffalo pick no matter who is available, (there will be too many talented players available that serve as a higher need within the first 6 picks)...

You wouldn't take Mike Williams with the sixth pick?

capitalcity · 10-19-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by: Fah Q

Quote:

Originally posted by: Male23Dan
Are you talking about drafting a WR with the pick Buffalo gives us, or with our first round pick??? Because I don't select a WR with the Buffalo pick no matter who is available, (there will be too many talented players available that serve as a higher need within the first 6 picks)...

You wouldn't take Mike Williams with the sixth pick?

I would...only to trade him away for more picks.

Male30Dan · 10-19-2004, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by: Fah Q

Quote:

Originally posted by: Male23Dan
Are you talking about drafting a WR with the pick Buffalo gives us, or with our first round pick??? Because I don't select a WR with the Buffalo pick no matter who is available, (there will be too many talented players available that serve as a higher need within the first 6 picks)...

You wouldn't take Mike Williams with the sixth pick?

I would NOT take Mike Williams or any other wide reciever with the 6th pick in the draft... I thought I said that! That is just NOT our main need... Now would I trade down if it made sense so that someone else with that need could get him, sure... But he is NOT what we need to get to the next level...

Fah Q · 10-19-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by: Male23Dan

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Originally posted by: Fah Q

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Originally posted by: Male23Dan
Are you talking about drafting a WR with the pick Buffalo gives us, or with our first round pick??? Because I don't select a WR with the Buffalo pick no matter who is available, (there will be too many talented players available that serve as a higher need within the first 6 picks)...

You wouldn't take Mike Williams with the sixth pick?

I would NOT take Mike Williams or any other wide reciever with the 6th pick in the draft... I thought I said that! That is just NOT our main need... Now would I trade down if it made sense so that someone else with that need could get him, sure... But he is NOT what we need to get to the next level...

A playmaker in the TO mold isn't something we need? I don't think we are a good enough team to draft by position. We should draft the best player available.

Male30Dan · 10-20-2004, 12:14 AM

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it; however, I STRONGLY disagree!!!

Just211 · 10-22-2004, 12:53 AM

As of now Dallas would pick 4-9 (Buffalo pick) and 15 (their own) not too bad, but I'd take 1 & 32 [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

dirno2000 · 10-24-2004, 02:27 PM

With Buffalo losing trailing 17-3 at the half, here's a look at Rick Gosslin's top 15 college prospects:

1) Matt Leinart - QB,Southern Cal*
2) Antrel Rolle - CB, Miami
3) Braylon Edwards - WR, Michigan
4) Cedric Benson - RB, TEXAS
5) Ronnie Brown - RB, Auburn
6) Alex Barron - OT, Fla. State
7) Mike Williams - WR, Southern Cal*
8) Kyle Orton - QB, Purdue
9) Carnell Williams - RB, Auburn
10) Dan Cody - DE, Oklahoma
11) Thomas Davis - SS, Georgia*
12) Mathias Kiwanuka - DE Boston College
13) Chris Colmer - OT, NC State
14) David Pollack - DE, Georgia
15) Derrick Johnson - LB, Texas

* = junior

FineCubanCigar · 10-24-2004, 04:59 PM

Rolle and Cody or Barron would do quite nicely.

fin4life · 10-25-2004, 11:34 PM

i want rolle, he is definetly my #1 choice (assuming we get the 3-5 pick)

FishForLunch · 10-26-2004, 12:57 AM

The rate the cowboys are playing we may have the 5 and 8 pick next year

FineCubanCigar · 10-26-2004, 03:08 AM

good, i would rather have that then loose in a wild card game.

Blonde Bomber · 10-26-2004, 10:10 AM

The rate the Cowboys are playing it looks like we may have two picks in the top 10. I hope we don't use old plratice and trade down for more picks...we need 2 STUD players on defense who can make an impact on the game. I hate that we just trade down and get a bunch of ok players who end up sucking anyway.

I would do backflips if we can somehow end up with Antrel Rolle out of Miami and Derrick Johnson out of Texas. Both of those players would be imediate impacts on our defense next year. GO GET'EM BILL!!!

Just211 · 10-26-2004, 11:55 AM

as much as i like those 2, I think Bill will do anything to get a top DL, DT or DE. Which we do need.

Phil Helmuth · 10-27-2004, 12:03 AM

Yep, we are going DL. Maybe Rod Wright, or Hlati Ngata. If Erasmus James could stay healthy he'll be a top 15 pick.

FineCubanCigar · 10-27-2004, 02:20 AM

DT's have a significant failure rate high in the draft. Kieper said its almost worse than QB's