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Old 03-15-2023, 09:32 AM   #1
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Understand your point but Nico made the trade for Wood but Kidd wont play him. Nico made the trade to draft Hardy but Kidd wouldnt play him.
Hell, Nico signed the washed up knucklehaded career backup center that Kidd wanted and Kidd wont even play him.
Before the season ends, it wouldnt surprise me at this point to think Kidd will bench Kyrie.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is getting all that he deserves.
This is a succinct way of putting it. It really is a slow self-destruction by Kidd...

As for the tanking aspect, I guess the Friday night game will tell all. How hurt is Luka? Is Kyrie hurt or still dealing with personal issues? Maxi's health, Wood's health, etc.

If the guy's out continue to be, it will be an organic tank to the bottom. Top 10 pick is easily achievable looking at the standings. The schedule could allow for it as there's only a couple of gimmes late (CHA, SAN).

Flip side, the guys are trying to get as close to 100% for a stretch run that could easily be favorable. Just that damn health issue. I just find it hard to believe the team is ready for a tank job after the moves they'd made to win this season and with the West truly open.
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:41 AM   #2
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I don't understand those who are saying we have no chance of retaining our pick at all. Just go to tankathon.com and check for yourself.

1) We have the second worst records over the last 10 games in the league.

2) We sit at 34-35.

3) There are 13 games left.

4) We are literally one game ahead of teams (NO, Utah, Toronto are all at 33-36) for the 10th worst record.

Not only do we have a good chance of retaining our pick if we actually *try* to win... we will almost certainly retain it if we tank. We should 100% be tanking. We need the asset more than we need a play-in loss or first round exit.
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:58 AM   #3
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INot only do we have a good chance of retaining our pick if we actually *try* to win... we will almost certainly retain it if we tank. We should 100% be tanking. We need the asset more than we need a play-in loss or first round exit.
I don't think you have that right. Good chance? In modern English, that usually means more than 50%

1st round exit - 0% chance of keeping our pick
14th (and lose play-in) - 2.4% chance of keeping pick
13th (and lose play-in) - 4.7% chance of keeping pick
12th - 7.2% chance of keeping pick
11th - 9.4% chance of. keeping pick
10th - 13.9% chance of keeping pick

It's unlikely we can even get to 10th worst record in the league, but even then we have an 86.1% chance of giving the pick to New York. I don't think I'd call that a "good chance"
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Old 03-15-2023, 10:16 AM   #4
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I don't think you have that right. Good chance? In modern English, that usually means more than 50%

1st round exit - 0% chance of keeping our pick
14th (and lose play-in) - 2.4% chance of keeping pick
13th (and lose play-in) - 4.7% chance of keeping pick
12th - 7.2% chance of keeping pick
11th - 9.4% chance of. keeping pick
10th - 13.9% chance of keeping pick

It's unlikely we can even get to 10th worst record in the league, but even then we have an 86.1% chance of giving the pick to New York. I don't think I'd call that a "good chance"


Not sure where you got this information, but it is just not correct.

If we end up with the 10th-worst record, the only way we DON'T keep our pick is if one of the teams 11-14 leapfrog us during the lottery selection for one of the top-4 picks. We would then be pushed down and out of the top-10 based on inverse record.

Based on my math, if we end up with the 10th worst record, there's a 27.4% chance that one of the teams 11-14 leapfrog us and we lose our pick, meaning there's a 72.6% chance we keep our pick.

Independent of this, there would be a 10.3% chance of us leaping into the top-4.

Meanwhile there is a 0.0% chance we do jack shit in the playoffs.
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This is a succinct way of putting it. It really is a slow self-destruction by Kidd...

As for the tanking aspect, I guess the Friday night game will tell all. How hurt is Luka? Is Kyrie hurt or still dealing with personal issues? Maxi's health, Wood's health, etc.

If the guy's out continue to be, it will be an organic tank to the bottom. Top 10 pick is easily achievable looking at the standings. The schedule could allow for it as there's only a couple of gimmes late (CHA, SAN).

Flip side, the guys are trying to get as close to 100% for a stretch run that could easily be favorable. Just that damn health issue. I just find it hard to believe the team is ready for a tank job after the moves they'd made to win this season and with the West truly open.
Of course they aren't tanking. If we were Kidd would find a way to fvck it up.
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